Middle aged men shouting in restaurants

chocksaway · 08-12-2016 10:22AM

ted1 wrote: »

10 high pitch middle age women can be equally as annoying or worse

This exactly! There were 3 of them on the bus home on Tuesday. Shouting and roaring about the dealsin arnotts, how its a pity cleary's is gone and shaws isnt the same anymore. And did ya hear eileen is gone to spain for Christmas- couldn't be doing that now.

08-12-2016 10:31AM

Asking to move table sounds like a reasonable approach

Mortpourvelo · 08-12-2016 10:59AM

chocksaway wrote: »

This exactly! There were 3 of them on the bus home on Tuesday. Shouting and roaring about the dealsin arnotts, how its a pity cleary's is gone and shaws isnt the same anymore. And did ya hear eileen is gone to spain for Christmas- couldn't be doing that now.

I'll take a few lairy lads in a restaurant any day over the flight I took last weekend with a hen party.

Jesus they were pathetic!

midnight city · 08-12-2016 11:22AM

Have you ever been sat next to a table of cackling women. The noise is deafening. Seriously loud.

endacl · 08-12-2016 11:23AM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Was he mansplaining while manspreading ?

Or gesturing expansively while talking bollocks?

"Testiculating"

_Brian · 08-12-2016 11:31AM

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

Am I the only person who notices/gets annoyed by this?

Three of us went out last night for a very special occasion to the Trocadero on St Andrew Street.

Service was great, food plentiful, but the night ruined by the presence of ten men aged 30s-60s, booming out expletives the whole evening adjacent to our table. We could barely speak nor think.

Do restaurant managers have any protocol on dealing with this? If you complain you run the risk of causing a very nasty drunken row. And the atmosphere in all honesty lost from the outset.

Should you request to be moved? Or just leave?

You could ask to be moved if you can see a free table further away..
You could also bring the issue to a member of staff and have them asked to be a bit quieter as respect to other customers..

There would be no need to be identified as those who made the complaint..

FEw years ago we were seated near a large group in a restraunt, they were having a great time and a bit noisy.. between starters and main I asked could we be moved due to the noise and it was no problem at all, manager even stood us drinks as way of apology.. They enjoyed their party and we had a nice relaxed meal.. staff got a good tip so everyone was happy.

The group you describe probably include a few who may be hard of hearing, a few who had a bit more drink than usual and then possibly a few tools.. its a bad combination in a restaurant but I'm sure something could have been done rather than just put up with it... thats just too Irish, put up with it, have a miserable time, then tell everyone about your awful experience, but do nothing about it..

irish_goat · 08-12-2016 11:35AM

Worked for years in restaurants and the worst offenders were always married, middle aged women out on a bi-annual "girl's night out" or
"day release" as I liked to call it. Shrieks, pig laughs and inappropriate behaviour were always the specials those evenings.

Mortpourvelo · 08-12-2016 11:40AM

irish_goat wrote: »

Worked for years in restaurants and the worst offenders were always married, middle aged women out on a bi-annual "girl's night out" or
"day release" as I liked to call it. Shrieks, pig laughs and inappropriate behaviour were always the specials those evenings.

Oh God the shrieking! Why girls, just why ??!!!

py2006 · 08-12-2016 11:43AM

ted1 wrote: »

10 high pitch middle age women can be equally as annoying or worse

Clucking chickens comes to mind! :pac:

Mrs Shuttleworth · 08-12-2016 12:11PM

Charles Babbage wrote: »

Don't leave any tip. Post a suitable review on tripadvisor.

Done.

MarkR · 08-12-2016 12:13PM

Nothing like women for generalizing. :rolleyes:

Mrs Shuttleworth · 08-12-2016 12:15PM

_Brian wrote: »

You could ask to be moved if you can see a free table further away..
You could also bring the issue to a member of staff and have them asked to be a bit quieter as respect to other customers..

There would be no need to be identified as those who made the complaint..

FEw years ago we were seated near a large group in a restraunt, they were having a great time and a bit noisy.. between starters and main I asked could we be moved due to the noise and it was no problem at all, manager even stood us drinks as way of apology.. They enjoyed their party and we had a nice relaxed meal.. staff got a good tip so everyone was happy.

The group you describe probably include a few who may be hard of hearing, a few who had a bit more drink than usual and then possibly a few tools.. its a bad combination in a restaurant but I'm sure something could have been done rather than just put up with it... thats just too Irish, put up with it, have a miserable time, then tell everyone about your awful experience, but do nothing about it..

You are right - two of us wanted to move, the third person didn't want to "make a fuss".

The restaurant was full and truthfully there was nowhere to move to. If it happens again, I'm going to just leave and tell the management why on my way out.

Some sarky poster above indicates that shouting is something that men just do. Agreed, but keep that for a pub or the rugby pitch.

Not a quiet section of good restaurant, and the f and c words every five seconds.

Day Lewin · 08-12-2016 12:21PM

I think its hardly fair to blame the restaurant...if they weren't told, what could they have done?

I believe in politely addressing the people who are acting too loud -
"Oh, excuse me - could you turn down the volume a bit? We're having a conversation over here, and there's a lot of background noise..."

They nearly always apologise, didn't realise - etc - no harm done!!

If no response, tell the waiter or manager.

I mean, you're paying: why be afraid of the other customers?

I don't approve at all of the passive-aggressive, say-nothing-at-the-time-but-moan-to-others-afterwards approach: direct polite speech gets much better results.

Mrs Shuttleworth · 08-12-2016 12:28PM

Day Lewin wrote: »

I think its hardly fair to blame the restaurant...if they weren't told, what could they have done?

I believe in politely addressing the people who are acting too loud -
"Oh, excuse me - could you turn down the volume a bit? We're having a conversation over here, and there's a lot of background noise..."

They nearly always apologise, didn't realise - etc - no harm done!!

If no response, tell the waiter or manager.

I mean, you're paying: why be afraid of the other customers?

I don't approve at all of the passive-aggressive, say-nothing-at-the-time-but-moan-to-others-afterwards approach: direct polite speech gets much better results.

I don't agree. If in one particular section of the restaurant only one table can be heard, with the f and c words in every sentence, the management have a duty to step in. It would not be appropriate at all for another table to address aggressive customers such as these, it runs the risk of a very nasty public row.

I had a look at Trip Advisor and another customer on a different night had a similar complaint at that restaurant; a complaint was made to management but they did nothing whatsoever about it.

Xaracatz · 08-12-2016 12:30PM

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

Done.

I think that's a bit unfair if you did not mention any issue to the restaurant staff in the first place. Two of the three of you wanted to move - you don't know what the staff may have done if given the opportunity.

You also don't know if the staff had asked the offending party to tone it down, but if they had no complaints from other diners, how much could they do?

FixdePitchmark · 08-12-2016 12:39PM

Was at such an event last week in Malahide.

I was out for the old romantic meal with herself - and a bunch of about 15 lads and 3 girls on a work night out. (god help the girls in this company, some of the lads too). The restaurant was fine dining - and it perplexed me that any work night out would be a place like that.

These lad were having "de craic" - fair play to them - but the company had more money than sense. Meals were coming out all done up in fancy ways - and the lads were pointing at them saying
" what the **** is that"
"lol lol lol lol lol lol "
"jaysus where is me chips"

They genuinely sounded like they were in Dublin Zoo.

Then every course (this is a bad habit anyway) , but about 7/8 of them would get up for a smoke - as the courses went on they were knocking over glasses etc, to get out for their smoke or coke.

I had a nice game in my head of what they worked at - must be a mad workplace.

The language out of them was unreal. I'm no saint and use to that stuff from my younger years.

It didn't bother me that much - was funny at times. Felt sorry for some older couples right next to them.

I blame the boss and the restaurant -

In an ideal world
The owner of company would keep manners on them
The owner of restaurant would keep manners on them
The owner of the restaurant would give a drink or gesture to tables around them

But we are Irish, don't complain much and had a great night anyway.

Was hillarious

"look how ****ing small me dinner is"

In my mind they worked in a tyre factory - a building site or a glue factory.

And , I have admiration for anyone in tough working environments.

But Jesus lads, a time and a place and there is always the right place.

Mrs Shuttleworth · 08-12-2016 12:39PM

Xaracatz wrote: »

I think that's a bit unfair if you did not mention any issue to the restaurant staff in the first place. Two of the three of you wanted to move - you don't know what the staff may have done if given the opportunity.

You also don't know if the staff had asked the offending party to tone it down, but if they had no complaints from other diners, how much could they do?

What's unfair is that the balance of power in these situations rests with the person doing the shouting.

They get their great night out - everyone else has to change their plans or suck it up.

hannible the cannible · 08-12-2016 10:47PM

So , you didn't complain , you instead chose to come on boards and leave a bad reviews on TripAdvisor , what's the point of that , last night was the time to act and you chose not to , you should stay in in future and have a pizza night with the girls , you'll find this month to be very boisterous in pubs and restaurants , you should give it a miss if you can't handle it

midnight city · 08-12-2016 11:09PM

I think the OP's name may be Louise O'.....

Arne_Saknussem · 08-12-2016 11:23PM

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Was at such an event last week in Malahide.

I was out for the old romantic meal with herself - and a bunch of about 15 lads and 3 girls on a work night out. (god help the girls in this company, some of the lads too). The restaurant was fine dining - and it perplexed me that any work night out would be a place like that.

These lad were having "de craic" - fair play to them - but the company had more money than sense. Meals were coming out all done up in fancy ways - and the lads were pointing at them saying
" what the **** is that"
"lol lol lol lol lol lol "
"jaysus where is me chips"

They genuinely sounded like they were in Dublin Zoo.

Then every course (this is a bad habit anyway) , but about 7/8 of them would get up for a smoke - as the courses went on they were knocking over glasses etc, to get out for their smoke or coke.

I had a nice game in my head of what they worked at - must be a mad workplace.

The language out of them was unreal. I'm no saint and use to that stuff from my younger years.

It didn't bother me that much - was funny at times. Felt sorry for some older couples right next to them.

I blame the boss and the restaurant -

In an ideal world
The owner of company would keep manners on them
The owner of restaurant would keep manners on them
The owner of the restaurant would give a drink or gesture to tables around them

But we are Irish, don't complain much and had a great night anyway.

Was hillarious

"look how ****ing small me dinner is"

In my mind they worked in a tyre factory - a building site or a glue factory.

And , I have admiration for anyone in tough working environments.

But Jesus lads, a time and a place and there is always the right place.

You really shouldn't have to tolerate inferior people, my condolences.

steddyeddy · 09-12-2016 12:25AM

MarkR wrote: »

Nothing like women for generalizing. :rolleyes:

Well you would say that because you're a man!

Goya · 09-12-2016 12:26AM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Well you would say that because you're a man!

I'm assuming he was being ironic.

Ted111 · 09-12-2016 12:29AM

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Was at such an event last week in Malahide.

I was out for the old romantic meal with herself - and a bunch of about 15 lads and 3 girls on a work night out. (god help the girls in this company, some of the lads too). The restaurant was fine dining - and it perplexed me that any work night out would be a place like that.

These lad were having "de craic" - fair play to them - but the company had more money than sense. Meals were coming out all done up in fancy ways - and the lads were pointing at them saying
" what the **** is that"
"lol lol lol lol lol lol "
"jaysus where is me chips"

They genuinely sounded like they were in Dublin Zoo.

Then every course (this is a bad habit anyway) , but about 7/8 of them would get up for a smoke - as the courses went on they were knocking over glasses etc, to get out for their smoke or coke.

I had a nice game in my head of what they worked at - must be a mad workplace.

The language out of them was unreal. I'm no saint and use to that stuff from my younger years.

It didn't bother me that much - was funny at times. Felt sorry for some older couples right next to them.

I blame the boss and the restaurant -

In an ideal world
The owner of company would keep manners on them
The owner of restaurant would keep manners on them
The owner of the restaurant would give a drink or gesture to tables around them

But we are Irish, don't complain much and had a great night anyway.

Was hillarious

"look how ****ing small me dinner is"

In my mind they worked in a tyre factory - a building site or a glue factory.

And , I have admiration for anyone in tough working environments.

But Jesus lads, a time and a place and there is always the right place.

The riff raff coming up from Coolock again?

When are yous going to build that wall on the southern border?

steddyeddy · 09-12-2016 12:34AM

Flimpson wrote: »

I'm assuming he was being ironic.

You can assume I was playing on that irony.

vicwatson · 09-12-2016 12:36AM

Ted111 wrote: »

The riff raff coming up from Coolock again?

When are yous going to build that wall on the southern border?

When they get the money to pay for it :P

eet fuk · 09-12-2016 01:08AM

Meh. It can be annoying but I bet everyone has unwittingly been part of a group like that at some point in life. If you weren't willing to make a complaint then I would have went somewhere else instead.

Also, not complaining about stuff is not unique to Ireland. I don't know where that notion came from.

Mrs Shuttleworth · 09-12-2016 01:52AM

eet fuk wrote: »

Meh. It can be annoying but I bet everyone has unwittingly been part of a group like that at some point in life. If you weren't willing to make a complaint then I would have went somewhere else instead.

Also, not complaining about stuff is not unique to Ireland. I don't know where that notion came from.

Listening to the don of the group was like being aurally bludgeoned with a lump hammer. He seemed to be a property developer (with a plum coloured Three Stooges style toupee) and regaled stories of buying distressed apartments in Poland and his fleet of Audi company cars. All littered with language to rival Tarantino.

I wanted to move as did my male companion but the female with us did not want to "make a fuss". I can see why someone would not want to, but realistically the night is lost if you're stuck beside these buffoons anyway.

Best just fix up with the restaurant, tell them why you're going and cut your losses by getting the hell out of there.

Dave_The_Sheep · 09-12-2016 02:27AM

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

Best just fix up with the restaurant, tell them why you're going and cut your losses by getting the hell out of there.

... and then posting about it on Boards.ie.

Instead of, you know, letting it go and moving on with one's life.

PucaMama · 09-12-2016 02:37AM

Op, AH isn't the place for criticism of men. Look at this thread. Half of it is "WOMEN DO IT TOO" .

Dave_The_Sheep · 09-12-2016 02:39AM

PucaMama wrote: »

Op, AH isn't the place for criticism of men. Look at this thread. Half of it is "WOMEN DO IT TOO" .

To be flippant, half of the world are men. Half of the world are women.

So the statements are probably a) predictable and b) accurate ... ish.

Middle aged men shouting in restaurants

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