How come Tinder is so difficult?

bucketybuck · 07-12-2016 06:15PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

This whole theory of exercise and mental health is a myth. [/url]

How can somebody even type those words without realising how stupid it sounds?

zulutango · 07-12-2016 06:16PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Gel, haircut, cutting their nails, clearing their ear wax, shaving, aftershave!

Wiping your ass!!

Where is the line drawn between being insecure and wanting to modify your body to rid of certain insecurities and taking pride in your appearance which requires you to be out of your natural state!

Or is it just a sexist thing about women and the culture of makeup!

There's quite a difference between hygiene and looking after your body/health and make-up.

Eric Cartman · 07-12-2016 06:16PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Gel, haircut, cutting their nails, clearing their ear wax, shaving, aftershave!

Wiping your ass!!

Where is the line drawn between being insecure and wanting to modify your body to rid of certain insecurities and taking pride in your appearance which requires you to be out of your natural state!

Or is it just a sexist thing about women and the culture of makeup!

theres a massive difference between being clean / personal hygiene / getting a haircut and covering your face in an opaque substance that masks your natural skin tone / blemishes / hides flaws or enhances features / pretends you have features that you don't.

A bit of gel / hairspray / a haircut is a style thing , full face of makeup/ a push up bra / fake tan / those tights that constrict your body is just a deceptive lie. If you want to decieve yourself thats grand, but I think its very shallow.

The Talking Bread · 07-12-2016 06:18PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

How can somebody even type those words without realising how stupid it sounds?

Poor Dicky Hillman never thought of the consequences of his actions sadly!

Arghus · 07-12-2016 06:20PM

Is there a massive difference though between a woman deciding to wear a tiny amount of eyeliner or eye shadow because she likes the way it looks and a guy deciding to style his hair or facial hair a certain way because he likes the way it looks?

Or have I got wrong? All women apply make up because of massive insecurities, while men are solely doing their own beautifying for the sake of personal hygiene?

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 07-12-2016 06:20PM

I think it's fairly accepted wisdom that the majority of men don't like the full face of Kardashian-esque make-up that's in style right now, seeing as it's an opinion people don't tend to be shy about expressing.

And yet loads of women continue to wear it. Maybe it's about something else other than what men will think of it.

The Talking Bread · 07-12-2016 06:22PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

theres a massive difference between being clean / personal hygiene / getting a haircut and covering your face in an opaque substance that masks your natural skin tone / blemishes / hides flaws or enhances features / pretends you have features that you don't.

A bit of gel / hairspray / a haircut is a style thing , full face of makeup/ a push up bra / fake tan / those tights that constrict your body is just a deceptive lie. If you want to decieve yourself thats grand, but I think its very shallow.

You are hyperventilating in extremism to push you point though!

Clearly I said that post in jest but you have made judgement call on any sort of makeup or gym attendance! Sure they are your preference in women, but you are questioning their mentality, insecurities etc to a very extreme degree!

The Talking Bread · 07-12-2016 06:23PM

zulutango wrote: »

There's quite a difference between hygiene and looking after your body/health and make-up.

there is quite a difference in a joke and actually being serious! Clearly you are missing the point I am making here!

Richard Hillman · 07-12-2016 06:34PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

How can somebody even type those words without realising how stupid it sounds?

I notice you excluded the link that I posted to back up what I said.

I wouldn't have posted it without the backup of an academic study

The Talking Bread · 07-12-2016 06:49PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

This whole theory of exercise and mental health is a myth. Usually perpetuated by people like Niall Breezy Breslin who has profited greatly from the myth

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-18335173

Well for that one sample study, perhaps google million other links that emphasise it does. Your study focuses on a specific mental health study, namely:

"Combining exercise with conventional treatments for depression does not improve recovery, research suggests."

So you are misunderstanding the actual meaning of mental health and equivalating it with diagnosed depression sufferers who are on depression alleviating medical prescription drugs which are the focus sample of people here.

So.....................

Arghus · 07-12-2016 06:52PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I notice you excluded the link that I posted to back up what I said.

I wouldn't have posted it without the backup of an academic study

I read the article. It doesn't say what you seem to think it says.

It reports that exercise as well as conventional treatments for depression, works as well as conventional treatments do alone. You don't get an extra boost of depression lifting happiness by combining the two. But you don't feel worse either, that's for sure.

The study doesn't prove anything about exercise and depression alone, because they did not test that.

And there's this paragraph -

"The message mustn't be to stop exercising. Exercise has so many other benefits - it is good in terms of heart disease, lowers blood pressure, has a beneficial effect on the balance of fats in the blood, strengthens muscles, and burns up calories. A lot of people who have depression may have other problems too. And an active body helps to produce a healthy mind," said Prof Alan Maryon-Davis, professor of public health, King's College London.

bucketybuck · 07-12-2016 07:14PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I notice you excluded the link that I posted to back up what I said.

I wouldn't have posted it without the backup of an academic study

The study that says:

an active body helps to produce a healthy mind

That study?

Come on, seriously, its pure common sense to know that exercise and as a result health and fitness is intrinsically linked with a persons mental health.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 07-12-2016 07:59PM

So what if she wants to wear a push up bra or fake tan. You feel cheated and lied to? Too bad her life choices aren't made for your benefit.

Dr Jakub · 07-12-2016 08:02PM

Online dating is a waste of time of you're a man. Maybe if you're in the top 1% of facial aesthetics it works but for the average guy? Get off the computer and leave the house!

Triceratops Ballet · 07-12-2016 08:10PM

Eric Cartman wrote:

A bit of gel / hairspray / a haircut is a style thing , full face of makeup/ a push up bra / fake tan / those tights that constrict your body is just a deceptive lie. If you want to decieve yourself thats grand, but I think its very shallow.

So makeup is nothing to do with style but hair gel is? Seriously? On the rare occasion I go out with a full face of makeup, thay makeup and the style it's in is as much a part of my outfit as top or shoes I'm wearing they all fit together to fit a theme.
Atheres zero difference between women wearing makeup cos they like how it looks and men using product in their hair or grooming their facial hair a certain way because they like how it looks.

The Talking Bread · 07-12-2016 08:26PM

Dr Jakub wrote: »

Online dating is a waste of time of you're a man. Maybe if you're in the top 1% of facial aesthetics it works but for the average guy? Get off the computer and leave the house!

Speaking for yourself, perhaps???

I am not in top 10 or even 30 per cent of facial aesthetics! I'm in no way ugly! But I meet tons of people over a couple of years I have been on, go on a date or multiple dates with same and even had an almost year long relationship a few years back from one of my first endeavours!

Ditto with most guys I know that have tried it out.

I obviously still go to the pub most weekends, have lots of social outlets and go to many weddings over the last couple of years!

You can multitask, dating wise! Both online and in the "real world"

Surreptitious · 07-12-2016 08:28PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Speaking for yourself, perhaps???

I am not in top 10 or even 30 per cent of facial aesthetics! I'm in no way ugly! But I meet tons of people over a couple of years I have been on, go on a date or multiple dates with same and even had an almost year long relationship a few years back from one of my first endeavours!

Ditto with most guys I know that have tried it out.

I obviously still go to the pub most weekends, have lots of social outlets and go to many weddings over the last couple of years!

You can multitask, dating wise! Both online and in the "real world"

So how you doing

I hope you're short, hate make up and wear hair gel too.

The Talking Bread · 07-12-2016 08:49PM

Surreptitious wrote: »

So how you doing
I hope you're short, hate make up and wear hair gel too.

If you are into the gym or wear tights, fk off and don't approach me! I just had a shower and applied my hair gel and done some sit ups!

Officially back in the top 1% !!!!!!!!!!!!! Result!

Logs onto Tinder.............40 Matches! Seeya later, I'm calling a girl over for sex!

Dr Crayfish · 07-12-2016 08:54PM

This thread seems to have run it's course. For that reason, I'm out. Chin up Onionbelt!

07-12-2016 08:56PM

lol
It's sooo deceptive

http://sketchshark.tumblr.com/post/129154657435/ive-been-doing-a-series-of-comics-about-men-being

Between that and your man with his "how dare women have some self confidence and be in any way picky", I don't even

Surreptitious · 07-12-2016 09:02PM

:pac:

Kal El · 07-12-2016 09:44PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Are you divorced/separated now? Because you were saying yesterday you were using tinder to invite girls over for sex in your house!

No I wasnt, I said thats how I used it. I regularly said I dont use tinder anymore, its always been when I used it. Im happily married.

Goya · 07-12-2016 09:50PM

I guarantee men who moan about women wearing make-up fancy plenty of women wearing make-up - and would fancy some women moreso with make-up on than not (e.g. if her skin was damaged).

They seem to think there can only be two possibilities - orange grease piled on with a trowel, or barefaced. When there's a multitude in between. I only wear a tiny bit of make-up and no foundation but I definitely get more interest wearing make-up than when I don't.

Jimmy Garlic · 07-12-2016 10:01PM

Flimpson wrote: »

I guarantee men who moan about women wearing make-up fancy plenty of women wearing make-up - and would fancy some women moreso with make-up on than not (e.g. if her skin was damaged).

They seem to think there can only be two possibilities - orange grease piled on with a trowel, or barefaced. When there's a multitude in between. I only wear a tiny bit of make-up and no foundation but I definitely get more interest wearing make-up than when I don't.

Subtle is much much better than the David Dickenson in drag look. Most men prefer subtle, trust me.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 07-12-2016 10:05PM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Subtle is much much better than the David Dickenson in drag look. Most men prefer subtle, trust me.

Well I don't have any problems in regards to being asked for my number/if I want a drink/out on nights out, even when I wasn't single and I would wear a lot of makeup. So either men are deceived into thinking my eyes are naturally smokey and my cheeks are naturally illuminated and my lips are naturally purple/red/brown or they aren't as bothered as you may think

Jimmy Garlic · 07-12-2016 10:12PM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Well I don't have any problems in regards to being asked for my number/if I want a drink/out on nights out, even when I wasn't single and I would wear a lot of makeup. So either men are deceived into thinking my eyes are naturally smokey and my cheeks are naturally illuminated and my lips are naturally purple/red/brown or they aren't as bothered as you may think

I seriously doubt that you would have received less attention if you wore less makeup. Men aren't fussy at all. There is a thin line between accentuating female beauty and hiding it under a layer of chemicals.

Goya · 07-12-2016 10:16PM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Subtle is much much better than the David Dickenson in drag look. Most men prefer subtle, trust me.

Of course. That was my point. It's understandable that men would find the trowelled on look unappealing (and baffling), as do I - but men who say they always prefer barefaced women are not being honest. What looks like no make-up is often very well applied minimal make-up.

Even noticeable well applied minimal make-up does not deserve to be put in the same category as the clownface look.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 07-12-2016 10:16PM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

I seriously doubt that you would have received less attention if you wore less makeup. Men aren't fussy at all. There is a thin line between accentuating female beauty and hiding it under a layer of chemicals.

You're speaking as a man stating "most men prefer women wearing subtle makeup". I am telling you, as a woman, who wears a lot of makeup, false eyelashes and all the trimmings, this is not what I have personally found to be the case. You're saying what men prefer, and I am saying perhaps that's true a some men but not "most" men. Not by a long shot

Eric Cartman · 07-12-2016 10:20PM

Flimpson wrote: »

Of course. That was my point. It's understandable that men would find the trowelled on look unappealing (and baffling), as do I - but men who say they always prefer barefaced women are not being honest. What looks like no make-up is often very well applied minimal make-up.

Even noticeable well applied minimal make-up does not deserve to be put in the same category as the clownface look.

Its a matter of taste, not dishonesty. This notion that makeup (even a little bit) is definitely an improvement is ridiculous.

so many people are so quick to go 'ohh you mean slapped on with a trowel' , obviously that's awful, nobody likes that. But myself and at least one other poster in here have said we prefer none/0/absoloutely not a thing and have just been told 'nah thats lies' 'no way' 'not being honest' Obviously advertising has worked very well since not a single woman has come along to say 'yeah, a woman can look better without any makeup'

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 07-12-2016 10:27PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Its a matter of taste, not dishonesty. This notion that makeup (even a little bit) is definitely an improvement is ridiculous.

so many people are so quick to go 'ohh you mean slapped on with a trowel' , obviously that's awful, nobody likes that. But myself and at least one other poster in here have said we prefer none/0/absoloutely not a thing and have just been told 'nah thats lies' 'no way' 'not being honest' Obviously advertising has worked very well since not a single woman has come along to say 'yeah, a woman can look better without any makeup'

I know plenty of women who aren't a bit bothered with makeup. You're entitled to find whatever floats your boat attractive, but speak for yourself and not the entire male population. I find tall guys with no body hair, wide shoulders and huge arms with no stubble and a strong jawline attractive, a stylish guy who takes care of himself.

I wouldn't have any interest in a manchild with a beer belly, a hairy chest, a collection of sports jerseys and tiny little arms that wouldn't swat a fly. However, I know a lot of women love a man with a hairy chest.

Different people find different attributes attractive.

How come Tinder is so difficult?

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