How come Tinder is so difficult?

The Talking Bread · 07-12-2016 03:32PM

The_Captain wrote: »

I suppose I associate people who are anti-gym with disgusting food, health problems and laziness, but I can see why guys wouldn't want to be with a girl who makes them feel inadequate.

You are pretty messed up if that is your line of thought..........

Or am I missing the sarcastic element! Or is it the "anti-gym" reference a reference to how Eric Cartman seems to judge gym goers?

I think you need to clarify that!

I exercise regularly, play soccer 3 times a week, don't over indulge etc. I also do plenty of hard work on the family farm! I haven't used a gym since university!

I also know plenty that don't even have as active a lifestyle as me who are as healthy as pie.

Yet you would associate people such as them with with disgusting food, health problems and laziness?

Many gym goers will face health problems due to their regime later in life. Especially if they don't get proper training how to balance their lifestyle and use weights or certain machines..

I a far from anti-gym. If I needed to use it to suit my lifestyle, I would.

But judging someone for using gyms or conversely not using them is not right.

The Talking Bread · 07-12-2016 03:35PM

Exercise, in any form, is required for mental health reasons also. People seem to think people merely go there for sexual appeal!

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 07-12-2016 04:25PM

zulutango wrote: »

Can you list a few of the other reasons?

Because it's art? Sculpting, contouring, blending, cut creases, strobing etc etc.
I love love love doing my makeup, I love doing other people's makeup. It's therapeutic, it's relaxing, it's so enjoyable. There's so many new skills and techniques to use and learn. It's probably one of my favourite things to do. It most certainly isn't to attract the attention of some 4/10 who thinks all women should be blesssed by him finding them attractive. I have no problem pulling above average guys, and if some man ever told me what I should and shouldn't wear he'd be dropped faster than a hot potato.

Eric Cartman · 07-12-2016 04:26PM

riffmongous wrote: »

It's strange but when I saw it mentioned and think about it I am also disinterested in girls who say they go to the gym.. for some reason I associate it with boring, vacuous people, possibly because of tv shows or something In my subconscious interesting girls do hiking or climbing or similar hobbies

Theres so many interesting, actually fun things you can do to keep fit. Even just going on a walking adventure around a new place is more craic than somebody using a machine to run in one place etc..

zulutango · 07-12-2016 04:42PM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Because it's art? Sculpting, contouring, blending, cut creases, strobing etc etc.
I love love love doing my makeup, I love doing other people's makeup. It's therapeutic, it's relaxing, it's so enjoyable. There's so many new skills and techniques to use and learn. It's probably one of my favourite things to do. It most certainly isn't to attract the attention of some 4/10 who thinks all women should be blesssed by him finding them attractive. I have no problem pulling above average guys, and if some man ever told me what I should and shouldn't wear he'd be dropped faster than a hot potato.

Seriously, it's art? Is this the reason most women use make-up? It's not to hide features they don't like about themselves?

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 07-12-2016 04:57PM

zulutango wrote: »

Seriously, it's art? Is this the reason most women use make-up? It's not to hide features they don't like about themselves?

Like what?

Triceratops Ballet · 07-12-2016 04:57PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Theres so many interesting, actually fun things you can do to keep fit. Even just going on a walking adventure around a new place is more craic than somebody using a machine to run in one place etc..

so many of you are very down on girls who go to the gym, I like walking, hiking and other outdoor activities like abseiling, however I also love going to the gym. I couldn't not list it as an interest as it's a big part of my life. Going to the gym is literally my favourite part of the day, I like challenging myself, and seeing myself get stronger as time progresses is incredibly fulfilling. For me it's about the sense of achievement, and testing the limits of what you're capable of and trying to exceed that, any aesthetic or health benefits are just a happy accident. Sure there are other ways to get that feeling but the gym is a really accessible one. I can go at any time of day any day of the week, I can't just wander up the sugarloaf, or wicklow way at any time of the day or night whatever the weather.

I think rather than ruling someone out purposely because they go to the gym, it's better to look at their motivations for doing so, if they're a vacuous image obsessed person that will manifest its self in other ways

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 07-12-2016 04:59PM

I'm vain and self obsessed and never go to the gym

GLaDOS · 07-12-2016 05:05PM

I might be a bit wary of a girl whose whole identity seems to revolve around being in the gym. That would say vacuous/boring to me. You sometimes see them on facebook, constant selfies and check-ins at the gym.

Going to the gym regularly to keep fit is to be admired, once it doesn't become all consuming.

The Talking Bread · 07-12-2016 05:05PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Theres so many interesting, actually fun things you can do to keep fit. Even just going on a walking adventure around a new place is more craic than somebody using a machine to run in one place etc..

We weren't built for adventures!

We were built to hunt, eat, reproduce! I thought you like being natural and judge people for enhancing their lifestyle! I presume you do this in the nip, yes! Au natural?!

And yes, I am being hyperbole to push across how hyperbole your generalisations and judgemental attitudes towards girls wearing a bit of make up AND GOING TO A BLOODY GYM!!!

ritamezga · 07-12-2016 05:08PM

"I'm vain and self obsessed and never go to the gym"

And you love makeup. We should be friends.

(The rest of this thread is a mess and sums up why I deleted Tinder but in case anyone needs help fixing their profile up a little I'm glad to help.)

Richard Hillman · 07-12-2016 05:09PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Exercise, in any form, is required for mental health reasons also. People seem to think people merely go there for sexual appeal!

This whole theory of exercise and mental health is a myth. Usually perpetuated by people like Niall Breezy Breslin who has profited greatly from the myth

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-18335173

The Talking Bread · 07-12-2016 05:11PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

This whole theory of exercise and mental health is a myth. Usually perpetuated by people like Niall Breezy Breslin who has profited greatly from the myth

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-18335173

no, it f'in isn't. Jesus, exercise and activity is one of the most important routes to enhance your mental health. Any qualified doctor, psychologist, neurologist, human scientist would tell you that.

I don't need Brezzy to convince me!!

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 07-12-2016 05:12PM

Mental health encompasses much more than 'recovery from depression'. People tend to only think about their mental health when they're ill, but physical exercise is an excellent way to stay mentally healthy.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 07-12-2016 05:13PM

Bressie could convince me anytime he likes

zulutango · 07-12-2016 05:18PM

dottie_lottie wrote: »

so many of you are very down on girls who go to the gym, I like walking, hiking and other outdoor activities like abseiling, however I also love going to the gym. I couldn't not list it as an interest as it's a big part of my life. Going to the gym is literally my favourite part of the day, I like challenging myself, and seeing myself get stronger as time progresses is incredibly fulfilling. For me it's about the sense of achievement, and testing the limits of what you're capable of and trying to exceed that, any aesthetic or health benefits are just a happy accident. Sure there are other ways to get that feeling but the gym is a really accessible one. I can go at any time of day any day of the week, I can't just wander up the sugarloaf, or wicklow way at any time of the day or night whatever the weather.

I think rather than ruling someone out purposely because they go to the gym, it's better to look at their motivations for doing so, if they're a vacuous image obsessed person that will manifest its self in other ways

As you said, it comes down to what their reasons are. There are definitely good and healthy reasons to go to the gym. Make-up I'm not so convinced by. If insecurity and seeking validation are the reasons then it's just not attractive. Same goes for people who project their lives through facebook!

The Talking Bread · 07-12-2016 05:21PM

Amirah Alive Sediment wrote: »

Mental health encompasses much more than 'recovery from depression'. People tend to only think about their mental health when they're ill, but physical exercise is an excellent way to stay mentally healthy.

Of course it is, It builds metabolism which increases mortality, it alleviates sleep problems and stress handling for many. It builds confidence, gives you a social outlet. These are the basic things. Then you get down to the nitty gritty of scientific and biological impacts on the brain from exercise.

From someone who suffers from mild epilepsy which had threatened to have a big impact of my studies and career and stress related to same, I know I would be f'ed without exercise. Both physically, academically and mentally! And I am a high achiever, academically.

Triceratops Ballet · 07-12-2016 05:28PM

zulutango wrote: »

Seriously, it's art? Is this the reason most women use make-up? It's not to hide features they don't like about themselves?

the point isn't that it's the reason all women wear makeup, it's that there is no one reason all women wear makeup. Women are individuals with different motivations for the things we do

Lexie loves makeup and never goes to the gym, I go to the gym all the time and only consistently wear 2 makeup products. Yet by the definitions of some we're both vacuous and self obsessed!!

MeatTwoVeg · 07-12-2016 05:31PM

When did The Gentleman's Club become such a hotbed of makeup discussion?

Eric Cartman · 07-12-2016 05:45PM

MeatTwoVeg wrote: »

When did The Gentleman's Club become such a hotbed of makeup discussion?

When I made the impossibly offensive suggestion that there might be women out there that don't wear any and dared to say that it might be a preference.

blacklilly · 07-12-2016 05:49PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

When I made the impossibly offensive suggestion that there might be women out there that don't wear any and dared to say that it might be a preference.

How absolute dare you:pac:

Knex* · 07-12-2016 05:52PM

There's certainly a makeup type, instagram or snapchat filter type that I avoid like the plague (from experience). Quickest glance at the eyebrows, hairstyle, makeup, and often accompanying duckface, and its swipe left.

There's so many of these women (although thankfully not the majority), that they actually blend into each other at this stage. Both on Tinder or out and about.

Have actually found myself doing far better, and also enjoying more, just going out and talking to women in pubs/clubs recently, so have deleted Tinder. Might take a look again in the new year.

Part of the reason was also that I recently shaved my head, and pretty much all of my photos I've hair in, so gotta rectify that on the photo front before I start false marketing :pac:

The Talking Bread · 07-12-2016 05:57PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

When I made the impossibly offensive suggestion that there might be women out there that don't wear any and dared to say that it might be a preference.

nope,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, not what you said at all! Noone said women don't wear make up. You made generalisations of and pre judgements on women who wear any form of make up. And ruled out any of same as partners!

You raised the opinion! It is just an interesting POV And most clearly disagree! Hence the discussion!

Some of your quotes:

"I'd plead with them not to (wear makeup) , and try solve the root cause as to why they felt the need to start, but you can be sure I wouldnt be happy about it."

"I think its a bit sad if a bit of powder and some black gloop is needed to improve confidence"

"Somebody who is truly just happy in themselves, whether that be a size 10 or 18 , clear skin or acne'd to bits, pale white or dark brown , just somebody who has embraced the hand the world dealt them and feels no need to change their appearance for them, the opposite sex or anybody else."

zulutango · 07-12-2016 06:01PM

I think we are agreed that most women are insecure about their looks and that's why they wear make-up so! The rest are artists. :pac:

The Talking Bread · 07-12-2016 06:04PM

zulutango wrote: »

I think we are agreed that most women are insecure about their looks and that's why they wear make-up so! The rest are artists. :pac:

Personally I feel someone who questions the mentality of someone engaging in exercise very insecure!

Arghus · 07-12-2016 06:06PM

I'd imagine some of the guys here who seem to think it's a sign of weakness for women to wear make-up, would think nothing of gelling their hair in the morning or before a night out.

zulutango · 07-12-2016 06:09PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Personally I feel someone who questions the mentality of someone engaging in exercise very insecure!

You don't think that many people engage in exercise in an unhealthy way? They certainly do (both male and female).

blacklilly · 07-12-2016 06:10PM

There isn't one person who doesn't have one form or another of insecurity.
Some women go OTT with makeup but that's just my opinion, they're not hurting anyone and if it makes them feel a little better then why not.

Some men go OTT in the gym, again my opinion but if that's what makes them happy and they're not hurting anyone then who cares.

For the posters who say they want someone who is entirely and utterly comfortable with themselves, I'm afraid this is near impossible.

The Talking Bread · 07-12-2016 06:10PM

Arghus wrote: »

I'd imagine some of the guys here who seem to think it's a sign of weakness for women to wear make-up, would think nothing of gelling their hair in the morning or before a night out.

Gel, haircut, cutting their nails, clearing their ear wax, shaving, aftershave!

Wiping your ass!!

Where is the line drawn between being insecure and wanting to modify your body to rid of certain insecurities and taking pride in your appearance which requires you to be out of your natural state!

Or is it just a sexist thing about women and the culture of makeup!

The Talking Bread · 07-12-2016 06:12PM

zulutango wrote: »

You don't think that many people engage in exercise in an unhealthy way? They certainly do (both male and female).

Again, not the initial line of debate here. You may have to go back a few pages to see where this stemmed from

How come Tinder is so difficult?

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