Louise O Neill on rape culture.

Widdershins wrote: »

Hang on, what? I just watched the video of Baby, it's cold outside. They are clearly being coy and teasing each other. Cerys starts out sweet and innocent but her inner bad girl comes out at the end. There's a difference between trying to charm a woman and trying to force her.

Try re-composing the song along more right on lines with Tom Jones formally seeking her consent..it doesn't work. There is such a thing as poetic license for songs etc

It's a song from decades ago, women couldn't be 'easy', they had to pretend they didn't want it

ZeroThreat wrote: »

What's fyb mean?

Friends Yith Benefits?

I'm surprised she hasn't been all over the alleged attack in UCD; one possible rape in 20 years obviously proves that rape culture is endemic on campus. Maybe learned a lesson after the Ag fiasco

In Louise's show it is said:

"We see rapists as these monsters, almost inhuman..".

Which is right, we do, and rightly so, but if we had a 'rape culture' then surely that would not be the case.

On the other hand, a good case could be made for Ireland having a 'false rape culture' given that 'slaps on the wrist' (ie: suspended sentences) tend to be seen as sufficient punishment for making one.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/archives/2016/1102/ireland/suspended-jail-term-for-woman-who-made-false-rape-report-428568.html
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/woman-made-false-rape-allegation-against-man-she-was-angry-with-court-34152990.html
http://connachttribune.ie/suspended-sentence-for-city-woman-for-false-rape-allegation/
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/suspended-jail-sentence-over-false-rape-claim-1.4612930
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/false-rape-claim-woman-has-sentence-suspended-25917481.html
http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/suspended-sentence-and-fine-for-student-who-made-wicked-false-rape-claim-650224.html
http://www.wexfordpeople.ie/news/woman-handed-suspended-sentence-after-pleading-guilty-to-manslaughter-27702140.html
http://www.herald.ie/news/courts/mum-55-who-made-fake-rape-claim-was-more-mad-than-bad-27971303.html

Etc etc...

Grayson wrote: »

So you're expecting her to make an individual statement about every single rape that occurs in the world. That may be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

I think what the poster was trying to get across was how O'Neill has bought into an ideology that permits criticism of white people but completely whitewashes (pun not intended) the actions of Muslims. She goes on and on about how bad white men are and how they are responsible for the pervasive rape culture in Ireland yet won't say anything about the atrocities committed by Muslims, who actively promote a real rape culture.

Dr Jakub wrote: »

The daughter of a EU official was raped and murdered in Germany recently by an Afghan migrant 'teenager'. Will Louise O'Neill speak out against this?

I think the correct terminology is 'child', not teenager.

Grayson wrote: »

It's not "allowed". There's no law allowing it. Nothing of the sort exists. So you either didn't bother reading the article or you're just lying outright.



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R.E The flag, that was a ridiculous judgement and the law is clearly an ass in that instance. R.E the threats, it's not allowed by law but it was described as acceptable by an anti discrimination group so it's quite serious. And like the flag ruling, should be taken very seriously.These are the ways in which societies are changed.

Widdershins wrote: »

R.E The flag, that was a ridiculous judgement and the law is clearly an ass in that instance. R.E the threats, it's not allowed by law but it was described as acceptable by an anti discrimination group so it's quite serious. And like the flag ruling, should be taken very seriously.These are the ways in which societies are changed.

It was hard to read about the Dutch judgement because most of the English stories just jump on the verdict and not the actual content. I googled it and used google translate to translate to english so I don't know how accurate my understanding is but...

It appears to have been based on comments on a page. The page was set up for Muslim LGBT. Someone commented on it to say that according to the Koran gay people should be killed.

The distinction the anti discrimination group made was that the person was expressing a religious view and not actually making a threat. It'd be like someone saying all paedophiles should be killed/castrated/whatever is different from saying "I'm going to kill that paedophile". (I'm not comparing gay people to paedophiles. I'm just using the paedophile example because it's common to hear people saying that. And even though they say that it's not taken as a threat).

I think that was the reason they said that if an actual threat had been made it would have been treated differently.

Of course it's hard to tell since the original comments aren't there and I don't speak dutch.

But either way it still stands that it's not allowed to make threats against gay people if you're Muslim in the Netherlands.

I understand that this is a subject that people feel passionately about but that doesn't mean that the truth should be sacrificed.

Connacht2KXX wrote: »

I fully get your point. However, no one was demanding that she should make a comment about this particular incidence of rape. People were pointing to her utter hypocrisy when it comes to rape, which is due to her ideological beliefs. She has made comments about Muslims in the past, saying that she is terrified for the Muslims of America now that Trump is president as both his policies and the islamophobic sentiment in the country will potentially harm them. This indicates she has some awareness about Muslims. My issue is that her comments about Muslims are not in the slightest way authentic, just like the rest of her opinions. They are clearly plagiarised and stem from this ideology she has bought into. She is a very intelligent person who has been brainwashed by left wing ideologues. This is deeply depressing as she has a platform to address rape but this opportunity is completely wasted as her moral compass is so disjointed. For the third time, all of this is down to her ideological beliefs. Identity politics, ideologies and religion poison perfectly sane, intelligent and righteous people. I have no doubt that O'Neill believes that she is doing good in the world, much like the ISIS fighters who behead aid workers, yet these 2 classes have been morally corrupted by 2 separate ideologies. Basically, this makes good people bad.

It's perfectly possible to be against discrimination and be against rape.

Dr Jakub wrote: »

Good job Sweden so, very tolerant altogether.

I would expect Louise and her fellow Third Wave feminists to speak out about the rape culture that has been imported into the West. 1400 girls raped and abused in Rotherham alone while the Sate turned a blind eye. Or maybe the mass rape of German women in Cologne that Merkel and her cronies tries to cover up?

I'd also expect her to speak about countries like Pakistan and how women are treated there. But hey that would involve criticizing brown people. That's not going to happen, she might get accused of racism and lose some twitter followers.

Is she a student in Trinity?

sashafierce wrote: »

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She's an excellent presenter.