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Let's all mock the disabled

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  • #32
    SkinnyBuddha
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  • #33
    kowloon
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    Only retards mock disabled people.


  • #34
    [Deleted User]
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    Digital Solitude wrote: »
    Made me laugh :pac:

    Chink is as offensive to Chinese people as ****** is to coloured people as far as I've been told, doesn't really fit into an argument about insults regarding disabilities.


    They'd probably prefer the N word than that to be honest.


  • #35
    _Whimsical_
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    Atari Jaguer wrote: »
    OP it's the same thing as if I called you a bastard, I can't 100% know whether you're parents were married when you were born or not.

    Calling you a pussy, I'm not saying you are literally a vagina.

    It's just words man. Sticks and stones and all that.[/QUOT

    I would like to agree with you here. It's not the same though. If you are born outside of marriage in this day and age it would not affect your access to education, it would not impact your future earnings, it would not impact your access to your town, shops, buildings, it would not impact your opportunities for social inclusion. However if your born with a disability or acquire one through your life it will affect all those things and you will find yourself fighting for all those things that able bodied people take for granted. You'll fight in your community for them and fight the state for them.
    In my opinion throwing out those insults, whether they're intended as a slur on disabled people or not, trivialise that very real struggle that lots of people will ensure. It creates an "us and them" environment. It makes it easier to keep the status quo and makes it easier for the govt and public services to deny needy people basic rights.

    Would you feel the same if I were to call you a slur once casually used about gay people. If someone wrote a post about using words like fag, queer etc would you say "hey, sticks and stones, lighten up"?
    I don't think most people would.


  • #36
    Digital Solitude
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    Omackeral wrote: »
    They'd probably prefer the N word than that to be honest.

    I'm not wearing my PC hat today, People of Colour is it?


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  • #37
    [Deleted User]
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    Digital Solitude wrote: »
    I'm not wearing my PC hat today, People of Colour is it?

    I think just plain old Black people does the trick this weather!


  • #38
    [Deleted User]
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    SkinnyBuddha wrote: »

    Well that's... something.


  • #39
    petrolcan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 898 ✭✭✭petrolcan


    SkinnyBuddha wrote: »
    ah your a delicate petal aren't ye .

    I don't suppose you reported those 2 posts you got offended over in the boy racer thread?

    Not delicate in the slightest.

    I didn't report them but it was the inspiration for starting this thread.

    By your response you are okay with the words in the first post?


  • #40
    Digital Solitude
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    Omackeral wrote: »
    I think just plain old Black people does the trick this weather!

    Atleast that's bloody descriptive, sure we're all coloured people and people of colour


  • #41
    Skyfarm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Skyfarm


    as a disabled person ,I'm not quite sure which of the above names i would apply to the downright ignorant responses to disability on this thread, the "I'm helping" disabled by name calling out other people really piss me off.. as for the "I'm smarter" than ye all type of person by referencing some obscure 70s/80s tv/mental disability term to get your point across is still as every bit as hurtful now as then ..


    Someday some company will refuse to associate their brand with the behaviour of boards when it comes to disability ,race ,lets hope the refusal of add funding will impose stricter regulation of hate/disability crimes on boards


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  • #42
    Sleeper12
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    Omackeral wrote:
    They'd probably prefer the N word than that to be honest.


    I don't think so Tim


  • #43
    [Deleted User]
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    Digital Solitude wrote: »
    Atleast that's bloody descriptive, sure we're all coloured people and people of colour

    Ha spot on. Also, the colours never match up. White people are kinda beige or some sh*t and black people are usually brown or really really really really really dark navy.


  • #44
    FortySeven
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    _Whimsical_ wrote: »
    Atari Jaguer wrote: »
    OP it's the same thing as if I called you a bastard, I can't 100% know whether you're parents were married when you were born or not.

    Calling you a pussy, I'm not saying you are literally a vagina.

    It's just words man. Sticks and stones and all that.[/QUOT

    I would like to agree with you here. It's not the same though. If you are born outside of marriage in this day and age it would not affect your access to education, it would not impact your future earnings, it would not impact your access to your town, shops, buildings, it would not impact your opportunities for social inclusion. However if your born with a disability or acquire one through your life it will affect all those things and you will find yourself fighting for all those things that able bodied people take for granted. You'll fight in your community for them and fight the state for them.
    In my opinion throwing out those insults, whether they're intended as a slur on disabled people or not, trivialise that very real struggle that lots of people will ensure. It creates an "us and them" environment. It makes it easier to keep the status quo and makes it easier for the govt and public services to deny needy people basic rights.

    Would you feel the same if I were to call you a slur once casually used about gay people. If someone wrote a post about using words like fag, queer etc would you say "hey, sticks and stones, lighten up"?
    I don't think most people would.

    Did you attend femfest or something?

    All this telling me what I can and can't say is wearing thin.

    From now on I am going to be as offensive as possible about minority special needs groups. Hopefully they will all get the message and shut the **** up complaining all the ****ing time!


  • #45
    [Deleted User]
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    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    I don't think so Tim

    It's Tom actually. Uncle Tom.


  • #46
    Sleeper12
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    Omackeral wrote:
    It's Tom actually. Uncle Tom.

    Cracker?


  • #47
    Sleeper12
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    I called a troll "special needs" a few months ago. Got a smacked bottom from a mod. And yet it's perfectly OK on boards to call someone retard. Go figure.


  • #48
    [Deleted User]
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    I see this started when Kal El called Boy Racers retards in the other thread.
    petrolcan wrote: »
    Any chance you could broaden your vocabulary and stop using that word? (retard)
    Kal El wrote: »
    Why? I feel its apt
    petrolcan wrote: »
    That makes it all okay then.

    In fairness, you can't go around telling people what they can and can't say. He/she deems it apt and are fine with it. If you're not, then that's on you. Report it and see what the stance on it is. This thread will probably give you an indication on what people do and don't find acceptable, but ya can't expect people to censor themselves just because it offends you personally.


  • #49
    Digital Solitude
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    Just spotted that myself, I'd be more inclined to call ******** like OP a **** or a ****** but as we're on boards I'll censor myself


  • #50
    petrolcan
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    Omackeral wrote: »
    I see this started when Kal El called Boy Racers retards in the other thread.

    Point of order, he called them spastic losers.
    Omackeral wrote: »
    In fairness, you can't go around telling people what they can and can't say. He/she deems it apt and are fine with it. If you're not, then that's on you. Report it and see what the stance on it is. This thread will probably give you an indication on what people do and don't find acceptable, but ya can't expect people to censor themselves just because it offends you personally.

    I'm not telling people what they can and cannot say. I'm asking whether people might choose their words more carefully. Derogatory terms for homosexuality or race aren't used so why is it acceptable to use the words in the first post?

    Banter doesn't cut it.


  • #51
    Mr. FoggPatches
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    Let's eliminate all words that we don't like from the language


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  • #52
    SkinnyBuddha
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    petrolcan wrote: »

    By your response you are okay with the words in the first post?

    Yep pretty much ..context is king though as has been pointed out to you on this thread.

    I could give examples but I wouldn't want you to go full retard and close your account or what ever you might do when you OD on being offended.....


  • #53
    Atari Jaguar
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    Mr. FoggPatches wrote: »
    Let's eliminate all words that we don't like from the language

    Let's just be mute. That seems like the logical step forward. The snowflakes won't be able to cry about the bold words.


  • #54
    Mr. FoggPatches
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    Atari Jaguer wrote: »
    Let's just be mute. That seems like the logical step forward. The snowflakes won't be able to cry about the bold words.

    That's going too far. We can bark. Or grunt.


  • #55
    [Deleted User]
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    petrolcan wrote: »
    Point of order, he called them spastic losers.

    I'm not telling people what they can and cannot say. I'm asking whether people might choose their words more carefully. Derogatory terms for homosexuality or race aren't used so why is it acceptable to use the words in the first post?

    Banter doesn't cut it.

    Sorry I misquoted. To be honest, the term spastic is obsolete I'd say. I certainly never knew that's what spa was short for when growing up. We'd call each other spas in the same way you'd call someone an eejit. Would you feel the same if someone called another individual a lunatic?


  • #56
    Atari Jaguar
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    Mr. FoggPatches wrote: »
    That's going too far. We can bark. Or grunt.

    You try telling that to the Snowflakes. Can you do that? After what they did to Jerry???


  • #57
    _Whimsical_
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    FortySeven wrote: »
    _Whimsical_ wrote: »

    Did you attend femfest or something?

    All this telling me what I can and can't say is wearing thin.

    From now on I am going to be as offensive as possible about minority special needs groups. Hopefully they will all get the message and shut the **** up complaining all the ****ing time!

    And this is why we can't have nice things!

    Sure people should be able to say what they want, hold they opinions they want but wanting to be offensive for the sake of it to a section of society that hasn't caused any problem, that has been treated appallingly, well, you make a good argument for why we unfortunately need political correctness.


  • #58
    Turtle_
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    I don't think anyone means any harm to any disabled people when they say things like that, but harm isn't measured by intent, it's about the effect it has on the other person.

    A few years ago I read a blog post by an American woman who has a daughter with various disabilities and who is retarded. She made the point that her daughter is a lovely warm and loving person, and it's hurtful to see retarded used as an insult.

    Now, I think it's may a little bit sensitive, but if I walked in the shoes of a disabled person's parent and carer, maybe I would be a bit sensitive.

    I think she has something of a point, ultimately. Why use retard to describe something that is just stupid. Why, unintentionally or otherwise, hurt the most vulnerable in society and their families. They are people who are loved and valued and as worthy of respect as you or I. They aren't some lesser form who are fodder for jokes and insults.


  • #59
    petrolcan
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    SkinnyBuddha wrote: »
    Yep pretty much ..context is king though as has been pointed out to you on this thread.

    I could give examples but I wouldn't want you to go full retard and close your account or what ever you might do when you OD on being offended.....

    Whatever happened to 'attack the post, not the poster'?


  • #60
    Lou Scaunt
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    Ring the Guards OP.

    People can't be allowed to say words that offend you :(


    I've taken to browsing the Internet in a blindfold, just to be safe.


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  • #61
    FortySeven
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    Turtle_ wrote: »
    I don't think anyone means any harm to any disabled people when they say things like that, but harm isn't measured by intent, it's about the effect it has on the other person.

    A few years ago I read a blog post by an American woman who has a daughter with various disabilities and who is retarded. She made the point that her daughter is a lovely warm and loving person, and it's hurtful to see retarded used as an insult.

    Now, I think it's may a little bit sensitive, but if I walked in the shoes of a disabled person's parent and carer, maybe I would be a bit sensitive.

    I think she has something of a point, ultimately. Why use retard to describe something that is just stupid. Why, unintentionally or otherwise, hurt the most vulnerable in society and their families. They are people who are loved and valued and as worthy of respect as you or I. They aren't some lesser form who are fodder for jokes and insults.

    No, no, no. Her daughter is not retarded. That word was replaced by intellectually challenged or disabled. Learning difficulties is also used.

    That's why retarded is ok to use as an insult because it is no longer used to describe people who have real issues.


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