Let's all mock the disabled

petrolcan

Mong, mongoloid, spanner, spaz, spastic, window licker, retard.

Why is it, that in this day and age, the above words are seen as acceptable to use as put downs towards others?

What makes it worse is that it appears to be perfectly allowable on Boards.ie without any sort of deterrent.

I thought people had moved on but it appears not.

Burial.

petrolcan wrote: »

Mong, mongoloid, spanner, spaz, spastic, window licker, retard.

Why is it, that in this day and age, the above words are seen as acceptable to use as put downs towards others?

What makes it worse is that it appears to be perfectly allowable on Boards.ie without any sort of deterrent.

I thought people had moved on but it appears not.

The words above when used as a put down are rarely meant literally or seriously.

Chill out.

Barry Badrinath

Allowable?

Im not down with that.

My name is URL

Ride me sideways was another one

Stoolbend

I'm disabled.

The flying mouse

My name is URL wrote: »

Ride me sideways was another one

Thought that was to do with Chinese woman. ??

Outlaw Pete

I see you're point with some of those (although I think context is key) but what's wrong with spanner?

petrolcan

Burial. wrote: »

The words above when used as a put down are rarely meant literally or seriously.

That doesn't make it in any way right and actually sounds like a cop out.

whoopsadoodles

Spanner?

Spanner = tool.

Spanner.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Who said such words were acceptable? Of course they're not.

I have to say I have never heard most of them at all and the few I've heard have not been directed at disabled people.

If you have encountered it on Boards then report the posters concerned.

Tzardine

Stoolbend wrote: »

I'm disabled.

Best look out for bearded gingers so.

LordSutch

petrolcan wrote: »

Mong, mongoloid, spanner, spaz, spastic, window licker, retard.

Why is it, that in this day and age, the above words are seen as acceptable to use as put downs towards others?

Who says they are acceptable?

You left out Spa/Spaz which was (along with retard) probably one of the worst.

But you don't hear them nowadays, do you?

hairyslug

For some reason, the word retard really annoys me more than any of the others.

As for use on boards, stick retard into the search bar and you will see how common it is.

Atari Jaguar

Stoolbend wrote: »

I'm disabled.

"What kind of disabled?"


"... leg... disabled."

Collie D

Of all of those words the only one I still hear is retard and even then never towards someone who is actually disabled

Iwasfrozen

Spud.


That's another one.

Barry Badrinath

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Spud.


That's another one.

Potato face

longshanks

Windowlicker

https://youtu.be/7MBaEEODzU0

Atari Jaguar

OP it's the same thing as if I called you a bastard, I can't 100% know whether you're parents were married when you were born or not.

Calling you a pussy, I'm not saying you are literally a vagina.

It's just words man. Sticks and stones and all that.

NIMAN

Do you mean these words are used about what would be perceived as non-disabled people? In that case, its just an insult. I have heard it the odd time between close friends, taking the piss out of each other.

But I would doubt you'd ever hear someone calling a wheelchair bound person a spaz, if they do, then they are just arseholes who need a slap.

Wibbs

hairyslug wrote: »

For some reason, the word retard really annoys me more than any of the others.

As for use on boards, stick retard into the search bar and you will see how common it is.

Would "cretin" or "moron" or "imbecile" annoy you as much? Why not? They're all words once used in medicine to describe different conditions affecting the brain, just like "retard", though retard/retarded has far more meanings beyond mental disability. It seems some words are singled out for ire's sake.

LordSutch

Atari Jaguer wrote: »

OP it's the same thing as if I called you a bastard, I can't 100% know whether you're parents were married when you were born or not.

Calling you a pussy, I'm not saying you are literally a vagina.

It's just words man. Sticks and stones and all that.

So then all the words in (post 1) are fair game from Spa/Spaz, Retard, Chink, Mong . . .
they're all ok in your estimation

Are you serious?

Mr.Crinklewood

Stoolbend wrote: »

I'm disabled.

Can I take you shopping with me?

SkinnyBuddha

petrolcan wrote: »

Mong, mongoloid, spanner, spaz, spastic, window licker, retard.

Why is it, that in this day and age, the above words are seen as acceptable to use as put downs towards others?

What makes it worse is that it appears to be perfectly allowable on Boards.ie without any sort of deterrent.

I thought people had moved on but it appears not.

ah your a delicate petal aren't ye .

I don't suppose you reported those 2 posts you got offended over in the boy racer thread?

petrolcan

Kora Attractive Square wrote: »

Who said such words were acceptable? Of course they're not.

I have to say I have never heard most of them at all and the few I've heard have not been directed at disabled people.

If you have encountered it on Boards then report the posters concerned.

It just feels that sometimes the words are used without any thought about what they actually represent. Just banter.

It's not just on Boards, it just seems to be everywhere and seems to be overlooked.

I'm pretty sure that I've reported posts before but it might have been on other fora, I misremember.

FortySeven

LordSutch wrote: »

So then all the words in (post 1) are fair game from Spa/Spaz, Retard, Chink, Mong . . .
they're all ok in your estimation

Are you serious?

I would have no issue with retard, mong, Mongol, spanner etc. Spastic is not a word I would use and being Chinese is not really a disability as far as I know.

LordSutch

FortySeven wrote: »

I would have no issue with retard], mong, Mongol, spanner etc. Spastic is not a word I would use and being Chinese is not really a disability as far as I know.

I couldn't imagine in my wildest dreams of using any of those words nowadays for fear of being taken to court. Yeah sure back in the 70s you could say anything to anybody, but surely not nowadays

SkinnyBuddha

OP better not apply for job here either:pac:

https://www.mongodb.com/office-locations

Digital Solitude

LordSutch wrote: »

So then all the words in (post 1) are fair game from Spa/Spaz, Retard, Chink, Mong . . .
they're all ok in your estimation

Are you serious?

They are for me, wouldn't call anyone with a mental disability, or whatever the PC term is, a retard, I'd call my friends that when they're stupid. Same goes for moron, mong, spa, spaz and a few other terms.

I don't have anyone in my life I'm close enough to to call a n***er or a chink but if I did I'm sure I wouldn't hold back, just words.

I saw the thread title and came in here with every intention to slate handicapped people but it seems you weren't being sincere OP, weren't sincere at all. F*ck sake.

Digital Solitude

FortySeven wrote: »

I would have no issue with retard, mong, Mongol, spanner etc. Spastic is not a word I would use and being Chinese is not really a disability as far as I know.

Made me laugh :pac:

Chink is as offensive to Chinese people as n***er is to coloured people as far as I've been told, doesn't really fit into an argument about insults regarding disabilities.

SkinnyBuddha

kowloon

Only retards mock disabled people.

Digital Solitude

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Made me laugh :pac:

Chink is as offensive to Chinese people as ****** is to coloured people as far as I've been told, doesn't really fit into an argument about insults regarding disabilities.

They'd probably prefer the N word than that to be honest.

_Whimsical_

Atari Jaguer wrote: »

OP it's the same thing as if I called you a bastard, I can't 100% know whether you're parents were married when you were born or not.

Calling you a pussy, I'm not saying you are literally a vagina.

It's just words man. Sticks and stones and all that.[/QUOT

I would like to agree with you here. It's not the same though. If you are born outside of marriage in this day and age it would not affect your access to education, it would not impact your future earnings, it would not impact your access to your town, shops, buildings, it would not impact your opportunities for social inclusion. However if your born with a disability or acquire one through your life it will affect all those things and you will find yourself fighting for all those things that able bodied people take for granted. You'll fight in your community for them and fight the state for them.
In my opinion throwing out those insults, whether they're intended as a slur on disabled people or not, trivialise that very real struggle that lots of people will ensure. It creates an "us and them" environment. It makes it easier to keep the status quo and makes it easier for the govt and public services to deny needy people basic rights.

Would you feel the same if I were to call you a slur once casually used about gay people. If someone wrote a post about using words like fag, queer etc would you say "hey, sticks and stones, lighten up"?
I don't think most people would.

Digital Solitude

Omackeral wrote: »

They'd probably prefer the N word than that to be honest.

I'm not wearing my PC hat today, People of Colour is it?

Digital Solitude

Digital Solitude wrote: »

I'm not wearing my PC hat today, People of Colour is it?

I think just plain old Black people does the trick this weather!

SkinnyBuddha

SkinnyBuddha wrote: »

Well that's... something.

petrolcan

SkinnyBuddha wrote: »

ah your a delicate petal aren't ye .

I don't suppose you reported those 2 posts you got offended over in the boy racer thread?

Not delicate in the slightest.

I didn't report them but it was the inspiration for starting this thread.

By your response you are okay with the words in the first post?

Digital Solitude

Omackeral wrote: »

I think just plain old Black people does the trick this weather!

Atleast that's bloody descriptive, sure we're all coloured people and people of colour

Skyfarm

as a disabled person ,I'm not quite sure which of the above names i would apply to the downright ignorant responses to disability on this thread, the "I'm helping" disabled by name calling out other people really piss me off.. as for the "I'm smarter" than ye all type of person by referencing some obscure 70s/80s tv/mental disability term to get your point across is still as every bit as hurtful now as then ..


Someday some company will refuse to associate their brand with the behaviour of boards when it comes to disability ,race ,lets hope the refusal of add funding will impose stricter regulation of hate/disability crimes on boards

Sleeper12

Omackeral wrote:

They'd probably prefer the N word than that to be honest.

I don't think so Tim

Digital Solitude

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Atleast that's bloody descriptive, sure we're all coloured people and people of colour

Ha spot on. Also, the colours never match up. White people are kinda beige or some sh*t and black people are usually brown or really really really really really dark navy.

FortySeven

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

Atari Jaguer wrote: »

OP it's the same thing as if I called you a bastard, I can't 100% know whether you're parents were married when you were born or not.

Calling you a pussy, I'm not saying you are literally a vagina.

It's just words man. Sticks and stones and all that.[/QUOT

I would like to agree with you here. It's not the same though. If you are born outside of marriage in this day and age it would not affect your access to education, it would not impact your future earnings, it would not impact your access to your town, shops, buildings, it would not impact your opportunities for social inclusion. However if your born with a disability or acquire one through your life it will affect all those things and you will find yourself fighting for all those things that able bodied people take for granted. You'll fight in your community for them and fight the state for them.
In my opinion throwing out those insults, whether they're intended as a slur on disabled people or not, trivialise that very real struggle that lots of people will ensure. It creates an "us and them" environment. It makes it easier to keep the status quo and makes it easier for the govt and public services to deny needy people basic rights.

Would you feel the same if I were to call you a slur once casually used about gay people. If someone wrote a post about using words like fag, queer etc would you say "hey, sticks and stones, lighten up"?
I don't think most people would.

Did you attend femfest or something?

All this telling me what I can and can't say is wearing thin.

From now on I am going to be as offensive as possible about minority special needs groups. Hopefully they will all get the message and shut the **** up complaining all the ****ing time!

Sleeper12

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I don't think so Tim

It's Tom actually. Uncle Tom.

Sleeper12

Omackeral wrote:

It's Tom actually. Uncle Tom.

Cracker?

Sleeper12

I called a troll "special needs" a few months ago. Got a smacked bottom from a mod. And yet it's perfectly OK on boards to call someone retard. Go figure.

petrolcan

I see this started when Kal El called Boy Racers retards in the other thread.

petrolcan wrote: »

Any chance you could broaden your vocabulary and stop using that word? (retard)

Kal El wrote: »

Why? I feel its apt

petrolcan wrote: »

That makes it all okay then.

In fairness, you can't go around telling people what they can and can't say. He/she deems it apt and are fine with it. If you're not, then that's on you. Report it and see what the stance on it is. This thread will probably give you an indication on what people do and don't find acceptable, but ya can't expect people to censor themselves just because it offends you personally.

Digital Solitude

Just spotted that myself, I'd be more inclined to call ******** like OP a **** or a ****** but as we're on boards I'll censor myself

petrolcan

Omackeral wrote: »

I see this started when Kal El called Boy Racers retards in the other thread.

Point of order, he called them spastic losers.

Omackeral wrote: »

In fairness, you can't go around telling people what they can and can't say. He/she deems it apt and are fine with it. If you're not, then that's on you. Report it and see what the stance on it is. This thread will probably give you an indication on what people do and don't find acceptable, but ya can't expect people to censor themselves just because it offends you personally.

I'm not telling people what they can and cannot say. I'm asking whether people might choose their words more carefully. Derogatory terms for homosexuality or race aren't used so why is it acceptable to use the words in the first post?

Banter doesn't cut it.

Mr. FoggPatches

Let's eliminate all words that we don't like from the language