El Presidente Trump

Hande hoche! · 30-11-2016 01:32PM

Seemingly Trump is going to leave the business side of things

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38155141

humanji · 30-11-2016 01:34PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

This has to be satire

Ok, ok, what actually is this "alt-right" (idea for a Bob Marley parody right there....) that I've been hearing over and over? Is it because they literally can't call the gays, blacks, women, Hispanics, Asians etc etc "racist right wing white supremacists" for holding right leaning views, so had to come up with something else to dash with negative connotations and release into the public?

Because that's just kind of what I assumed...

Wasn't it the extreme right who coined the term "alt-right" to distance themselves from people who didn't hold extreme views?

Christy42 · 30-11-2016 01:35PM

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Seemingly Trump is going to leave the business side of things

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38155141

Still doesn't say it is being put into a blind trust.

If it is his kids running it there are still ridiculous issues.s

Jelle1880 · 30-11-2016 01:35PM

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Seemingly Trump is going to leave the business side of things

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38155141

While I am not mandated to do this under the law

Isn't he actually obliged to do it under law ?

Renegade Mechanic · 30-11-2016 01:37PM

Christy42 wrote: »

She will no longer be president. Surely now you should switch to arguing Trump should be impeached.

Nope. As long as he's there, people like Buffett, Sutherland, Soros, Yellen et al are pissed off and that alone makes me happy.
What, you think because he said offensive, disparaging things about people changes that?

You need to accept something, quickly. Neither you, nor I, nor anyone else here is even the sh*t on the shoes of the sh*t on these people's shoes.
Our feelings are simply not important. You'd have to be insane to know that and not take the opportunity to thumb your nose at them however possible.

Now the main reason I'd have supported him was because as I said, Hillary was worse. But now that he's here, watching their tantrums is just a bonus.

Renegade Mechanic · 30-11-2016 01:38PM

humanji wrote: »

Wasn't it the extreme right who coined the term "alt-right" to distance themselves from people who didn't hold extreme views?

No idea tbh. Would they not be jealous of all the "fame" this alt-right thing has?

Hande hoche! · 30-11-2016 01:39PM

Christy42 wrote: »

Still doesn't say it is being put into a blind trust.

If it is his kids running it there are still ridiculous issues.s

It will presumably give him more time and opportunity to decide which countries to bomb the sh*t out of.

30-11-2016 01:39PM

The thing I don't get is how he is not been called out on retracting on the things he said he would do, lots of back tracking on almost everything.

Maybe all that stuff about living is a Hyperreality is correct.

In semiotics and postmodernism, hyperreality is an inability of consciousness to distinguish reality from a simulation of reality, especially in technologically advanced postmodern societies. Hyperreality is seen as a condition in which what is real and what is fiction are seamlessly blended together so that there is no clear distinction between where one ends and the other begins https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreality

Renegade Mechanic · 30-11-2016 01:44PM

mariaalice wrote: »

The thing I don't get is how he is not been called out on retracting on the things he said he would do, lots of back tracking on almost everything.

Maybe all that stuff about living is a Hyperreality is correct.

In semiotics and postmodernism, hyperreality is an inability of consciousness to distinguish reality from a simulation of reality, especially in technologically advanced postmodern societies. Hyperreality is seen as a condition in which what is real and what is fiction are seamlessly blended together so that there is no clear distinction between where one ends and the other begins https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreality

Ohhhh no you don't, sith right back down, buddy. This is real and you're riding shotgun!

pumpkin4life · 30-11-2016 01:45PM

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/803926488579973120

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/803927774784344064

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/803930240661811200

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/803931490514075648

Billy86 · 30-11-2016 01:51PM

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Seemingly Trump is going to leave the business side of things

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38155141

Trump says. Trump does. They're not only not the same thing, at this stage they're practically antithetical to each other.

Christy42 · 30-11-2016 02:05PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Nope. As long as he's there, people like Buffett, Sutherland, Soros, Yellen et al are pissed off and that alone makes me happy.
What, you think because he said offensive, disparaging things about people changes that?

You need to accept something, quickly. Neither you, nor I, nor anyone else here is even the sh*t on the shoes of the sh*t on these people's shoes.
Our feelings are simply not important. You'd have to be insane to know that and not take the opportunity to thumb your nose at them however possible.

Now the main reason I'd have supported him was because as I said, Hillary was worse. But now that he's here, watching their tantrums is just a bonus.

Your logic makes no sense. Trump is one of those people. It is like thumbing your nose at someone you don't like while you are both on the sinking titanic. Come on. You mean to say that there was no other option but Trump that would have annoyed famous rich people, even in the primaries? Heck you mean to say that there was no option that would have hurt the rich financially given Trump will help them?

You need to realise Trump is worse than them in terms of caring about anyone but himself. On the bright side I get to enjoy Trump's tantrums even though he won!

Strange how fighting Hillary was so important but somehow they aren't willing to call out a man none of them can give an argument in favour for.

jimgoose · 30-11-2016 02:06PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

This has to be satire

Ok, ok, what actually is this "alt-right" (idea for a Bob Marley parody right there....) that I've been hearing over and over? Is it because they literally can't call the gays, blacks, women, Hispanics, Asians etc etc "racist right wing white supremacists" for holding right leaning views, so had to come up with something else to dash with negative connotations and release into the public?

Because that's just kind of what I assumed...

I personally am heartened by the idea that even a one-legged, Eithiopian lesbian rape-victim can be a stupid, racist, mysoginistic property-owning white male between the ages of 35 and 50, in spirit! :pac:

Billy86 · 30-11-2016 02:12PM

It was actually conservatives who came up with the term 'alt-right' for those curious.

PopePalpatine · 30-11-2016 02:24PM

Billy86 wrote: »

It was actually conservatives who came up with the term 'alt-right' for those curious.

Yup, the term was coined back in November 2008 (golly gee, I wonder what else happened in that month?) by Paul Gottfried, a paleoconservative philosopher.

Galway_Old_Man · 30-11-2016 02:25PM

pumpkin4life wrote: »

The Guardian go full retard.:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/28/alt-right-online-poison-racist-bigot-sam-harris-milo-yiannopoulos-islamophobia

Like I said: more doubling down and extremism in the next few months.

It looks like this may be an epic troll - https://twitter.com/GodfreyElfwick/status/803687334482939904

So fake news then eh?

jimgoose · 30-11-2016 02:31PM

Galway_Old_Man wrote: »

...So fake news then eh?

It would appear that Mr. Elfwick is The Guardian's equivalent of B1FF. I salute! :pac::pac::pac:

Renegade Mechanic · 30-11-2016 02:49PM

Christy42 wrote: »

Your logic makes no sense. Trump is one of those people. It is like thumbing your nose at someone you don't like while you are both on the sinking titanic. Come on. You mean to say that there was no other option but Trump that would have annoyed famous rich people, even in the primaries? Heck you mean to say that there was no option that would have hurt the rich financially given Trump will help them?

You need to realise Trump is worse than them in terms of caring about anyone but himself. On the bright side I get to enjoy Trump's tantrums even though he won!

There. Riiight there. Yer on the titanic. We all are. Just like they were. Some just don't want to admit it. What are you going to do about it? Jump off?

Nothing will ever hurt the rich financially. Because they're, well, rich.. But it's nice to hand the pontificating **** a nice, big STFU even if it is just symbolic.

Christy42 wrote: »

Strange how fighting Hillary was so important but somehow they aren't willing to call out a man none of them can give an argument in favour for.

I've given my argument a few times. He's less sh*t than Hillary. Not only that, he's considerably less sh*t that the properly evil scum that rowed in behind Hillary.
Wether you can stomach that fact or not isn't really my problem tbh.
Why don't we make a list of alleged suspicious deaths around the Clintons and compare it with the Trumps?

Jelle1880 · 30-11-2016 03:04PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

I've given my argument a few times. He's less sh*t than Hillary. Not only that, he's considerably less sh*t that the properly evil scum that rowed in behind Hillary.
Wether you can stomach that fact or not isn't really my problem tbh.
Why don't we make a list of alleged suspicious deaths around the Clintons and compare it with the Trumps?

How is this fact ? It's your opinion, nothing more. Just like how I think that many of Trump's people are vile, religious nutjob people.

If you really want to engage in conspiracy stuff about how Killary kills her political opponents then by all means, but don't expect people to take it serious.

edit: I mean those that ran with his campaign, not his 'followers' per se.

Christy42 · 30-11-2016 03:19PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

There. Riiight there. Yer on the titanic. We all are. Just like they were. Some just don't want to admit it. What are you going to do about it? Jump off?

Nothing will ever hurt the rich financially. Because they're, well, rich.. But it's nice to hand the pontificating **** a nice, big STFU even if it is just symbolic.

I've given my argument a few times. He's less sh*t than Hillary. Not only that, he's considerably less sh*t that the properly evil scum that rowed in behind Hillary.
Wether you can stomach that fact or not isn't really my problem tbh.
Why don't we make a list of alleged suspicious deaths around the Clintons and compare it with the Trumps?

Essentially you aren't bothered discussing the man himself. Just that you want to stick the fingers to rich people (you know Trump is one of them right).

This argument won't go anywhere so I am done with it.

Renegade Mechanic · 30-11-2016 03:30PM

Christy42 wrote: »

Essentially you aren't bothered discussing the man himself. Just that you want to stick the fingers to rich people (you know Trump is one of them right).

This argument won't go anywhere so I am done with it.

There is no "done". There's nothing to be discussed. The man's an arsehole, but he's considerably less dangerous than Hillary. It's that simple. You seem to think otherwise. You seem to think Hillary isn't a lethal psychopath.
Anyone who thinks someone "nice" was ever going to get within an asses roar of the Whitehouse is quite naive. It's always a question of the least sh*ttiest piece of sh*t. Nothing more. In this case, it was Trump. In four years time, it might be someone else.

Renegade Mechanic · 30-11-2016 03:37PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

How is this fact ? It's your opinion, nothing more. Just like how I think that many of Trump's people are vile, religious nutjob people.

If you really want to engage in conspiracy stuff about how Killary kills her political opponents then by all means, but don't expect people to take it serious.

edit: I mean those that ran with his campaign, not his 'followers' per se.

Sure, one or two people is a tragedy. Five or six is a coincidence. Ten is a ""coincidence"" but more than 40?
It's not a conspiracy. Conspiracies don't tend to happen again and again and again, you just can't stomach the thought that everyone who fed you bull**** about how "Drumfpkkk is LITERALLY HITLER!!!" is wrong.

Even if that list was just one, it would still be one more death than anyone could pin on the gobby one.

Jelle1880 · 30-11-2016 03:54PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Sure, one or two people is a tragedy. Five or six is a coincidence. Ten is a ""coincidence"" but more than 40?
It's not a conspiracy. Conspiracies don't tend to happen again and again and again, you just can't stomach the thought that everyone who fed you bull**** about how "Drumfpkkk is LITERALLY HITLER!!!" is wrong.

Even if that list was just one, it would still be one more death than anyone could pin on the gobby one.

It's a claim only found on websites with nice names like www.truthorfiction.com or www.whatreallyhappened.com or perpetuated by morons like Newt Gingrich.

It's sources are both untrustworthy and completely biased. Unless you have direct proof that she was involved then yes, it does look like a conspiracy theory.

Now, we both know you don't actually have any genuine proof so continuing to peddle this claim makes you seem petty.

It also has **** all to do with me not being able to stomach anything.

ricero · 30-11-2016 03:57PM

Fair play to trump givin up all his buisness. It must of been a tough decision for him to leave the running of his empire to others and to walk away.

His sacrafice shows he is willing to put america first

Renegade Mechanic · 30-11-2016 03:59PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

It's a claim only found on websites with nice names like www.truthorfiction.com or www.whatreallyhappened.com or perpetuated by morons like Newt Gingrich.

It's sources are both untrustworthy and completely biased. Unless you have direct proof that she was involved then yes, it does look like a conspiracy theory.

Now, we both know you don't actually have any genuine proof so continuing to peddle this claim makes you seem petty.

It also has **** all to do with me not being able to stomach anything.

You know the way Trump always over dramatise/bigs up something to draw attention away from something else? You know, like how everyone was busy guffawing at his "safe space" crap with Pence while he payed off a multimillion dollar settlement for fraud?

You know the way everyone was busy with the Monica Lewinsky scandal all of a sudden?

Jelle1880 · 30-11-2016 04:01PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

You know the way Trump always over dramatise/bigs up something to draw attention away from something else? You know, like how everyone was busy guffawing at his "safe space" crap with Pence while he payed off a multimillion dollar settlement for fraud?

You know the way everyone was busy with the Monica Lewinsky scandal all of a sudden?

You mean like the death of Vince Foster in 1993 (plus the 5 subsequent investigations for the next 4 years), which was 5 years before the Lewinsky scandal erupted ?

If she really got away with all of that then she must be the best serial killer in history. Not only being responsible for apparently 40+ deaths but getting away with it time and time again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YVrxFmheSc

Renegade Mechanic · 30-11-2016 04:03PM

ricero wrote: »

Fair play to trump givin up all his buisness. It must of been a tough decision for him to leave the running of his empire to others and to walk away.

His sacrafice shows he is willing to put america first

Er... When he's finished in four years or eight (or, erm... weeks....) he does still have billions to land in. I think he'll be ok

Jelle1880 · 30-11-2016 04:04PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Er... When he's finished in four years or eight (or, erm... weeks....) he does still have billions to land in. I think he'll be ok

We'll see how smart his kids are first

dudara · 30-11-2016 04:07PM

ricero wrote: »

Fair play to trump givin up all his buisness. It must of been a tough decision for him to leave the running of his empire to others and to walk away.

His sacrafice shows he is willing to put america first

If he wasn't willing to walk away from his commercial interests, then he shouldn't have ran for President.

Being President isn't a cushy gig that you can do on the side. It's a job that demands 110% and there isn't room for anything else. In addition, the President should be removed, as much as possible, from commercial influences.

Giving up his commercial interests is a minimum qualifying criteria for the job, not something he should be applauded for.

Renegade Mechanic · 30-11-2016 04:08PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

You mean like the death of Vince Foster in 1993 (plus the 5 subsequent investigations for the next 4 years), which was 5 years before the Lewinsky scandal erupted ?

If she really got away with all of that then she must be the best serial killer in history. Not only being responsible for apparently 40+ deaths but getting away with it time and time again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YVrxFmheSc

Clintons. They're a a family. A syndicate. A dynasty, just like the Bush oil family (who by the way, they're actually quite friendly with

) Right now it's Hillary. Same snake, different head.
And when you've got lots of money, other plebs do your dirty work, not you.

El Presidente Trump

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