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  • #5252
    primary 2
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 247 ✭✭primary 2


    Bass Reeves wrote: »
    3.85-3.90 Christmas week, 4.00-4.10 the end of January, 3.80 for March and April

    why do you think they will be lower in march and april? more comming on stream? 3 80 wouldnt be great for march and april but if 4 00 or 4 10 was got the end of january it would not be too bad,do you reckon they will tighten in january?


  • #5253
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,270 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    primary 2 wrote: »
    why do you think they will be lower in march and april? more comming on stream? 3 80 wouldnt be great for march and april but if 4 00 or 4 10 was got the end of january it would not be too bad,do you reckon they will tighten in january?

    Cattle that are housed in November come on stream from late January on. Late housing this year. I am making a guess that few cattle were housed for finish during late September/October. I think that this might save those that have cattle finishing form Christmas to early February. I always taught that the worst time of the year to have cattle finished was March/April.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #5254
    restive
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭restive


    Sterling has been strenghtening against the euro, if this continues it will help prices.


  • #5255
    arctic8dave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭arctic8dave


    Last time I'll finish bullocks waste of time. Sell as calves or at the very least weanlings. All AA & killed last Tuesday week.


  • #5256
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Hard to blame you Dave, the out of spec O minuses did nothing for you. Have an angus bull here the last 10 yrs and nothing gets castrated. Were they out of fresians?

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • #5257
    arctic8dave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭arctic8dave


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Hard to blame you Dave, the out of spec O minuses did nothing for you. Have an angus bull here the last 10 yrs and nothing gets castrated. Were they out of fresians?
    Mostly out of freisin & some red x which certainly doesn't help either!!!


  • #5258
    CloughCasey1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Quoted 3.70 for heavy underage bullocks for next week. Will keep searching!


  • #5259
    Robson99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,657 ✭✭✭Robson99


    CloughCasey1 wrote: »
    Quoted 3.70 for heavy underage bullocks for next week. Will keep searching!

    Keepak?


  • #5260
    charolais0153
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Neenagh?


  • #5261
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    CloughCasey1 wrote: »
    Quoted 3.70 for heavy underage bullocks for next week. Will keep searching!

    Don't know of anything better TBH at present round here anyway.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • #5262
    CloughCasey1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    charolais0153 wrote: »
    Neenagh?

    Correct. Waiting on another price Monday. Going next week either way.


  • #5263
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Has anybody weighed cattle since they housed them? There's a lot of sh1te barley around this year, I don't think cattle are performing on it. Protein in the barley is low too, under 10%.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #5264
    Cavanjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    CloughCasey1 wrote: »
    Quoted 3.70 for heavy underage bullocks for next week. Will keep searching!

    Getting €3.70 for over 30 month bullocks next week. Rang the country it's as good as can be got.


  • #5265
    Robson99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,657 ✭✭✭Robson99


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Has anybody weighed cattle since they housed them? There's a lot of sh1te barley around this year, I don't think cattle are performing on it. Protein in the barley is low too, under 10%.

    Hope to weight tomorrow. Getting a mix of barley and finishing nut. Quality of barley does seem very variable alright


  • #5266
    Mooooo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Has anybody weighed cattle since they housed them? There's a lot of sh1te barley around this year, I don't think cattle are performing on it. Protein in the barley is low too, under 10%.

    Have you ever tested feed/ ration you bought in?


  • #5267
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,173 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    Rang the country it's as good as can be got.

    For the sake of a few cent is there any point going outside factories in your area? Would any increase not be gone on haulage?


  • #5268
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,173 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Robson99 wrote: »
    Hope to weight tomorrow. Getting a mix of barley and finishing nut. Quality of barley does seem very variable alright

    Do you blow that into a bin? If so, does it segregate?


  • #5269
    Cavanjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Muckit wrote: »
    For the sake of a few cent is there any point going outside factories in your area? Would any increase not be gone on haulage?

    Well when I mean the country I mean all the factories within an hour from here which there are about 4 or 5. Sent to Donegal once but I'm sure 10 cent extra wouldn't cover the extra costs.


  • #5270
    Robson99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,657 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Muckit wrote: »
    Do you blow that into a bin? If so, does it segregate?

    No mmuckit. Buy them separate in tonne bags and mix mesel


  • #5271
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Have you ever tested feed/ ration you bought in?

    Not yet, but I'm seriously thinking of bagging a kg or two from each batch then getting it analysed if problems show up. Margins are gone too tight in winter finishing to be paying big prices for crap soaked in molasses to make it palatable.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • #5272
    buffalobilly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭buffalobilly


    where do u get it tested how much


  • #5273
    rangler1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Not yet, but I'm seriously thinking of bagging a kg or two from each batch then getting it analysed if problems show up. Margins are gone too tight in winter finishing to be paying big prices for crap soaked in molasses to make it palatable.

    It's surprising that farmers aren't testing rations more regularily, rations can read the same with different ingredients,yet there can be a huge difference in performance.
    I never tested rations here but the one I'm using is performing very well and sheep are a good barometer of quality...especially as they're only getting straw with it


  • #5274
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,270 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Has anybody weighed cattle since they housed them? There's a lot of sh1te barley around this year, I don't think cattle are performing on it. Protein in the barley is low too, under 10%.

    Robson99 wrote: »
    Hope to weight tomorrow. Getting a mix of barley and finishing nut. Quality of barley does seem very variable alright

    Got barley and hulls in September barley was full of screedings and no flour in husks. At present feeding a nut that is 50% maize, 10% wheat ,16% hulls 17% rapeseed, 2% mins 3%molasses 2% lime. Cattle triving, it is about 14.%%P I am in a quandry as I want to drop P for lasy 6 week normally i just add barley from bags. Slow to add more Naize as it slows the rumen too much. Will buy a bag or two to see quality of barley.
    rangler1 wrote: »
    It's surprising that farmers aren't testing rations more regularily, rations can read the same with different ingredients,yet there can be a huge difference in performance.
    I never tested rations here but the one I'm using is performing very well and sheep are a good barometer of quality...especially as they're only getting straw with it

    Very hard to get a ration tested as it seperates however You should have an idea from amount of flour in barley and amount of different ingredients. A nut is easy enough to test and a good idea as you have no clue as to what they out in it.
    Muckit wrote: »
    For the sake of a few cent is there any point going outside factories in your area? Would any increase not be gone on haulage?

    Nearest Factory to me is about 12 miles for me to travel to next nearest about 30 miles would cost me 2.5c/kg in transport alone. When you move beyond that to one;s 60+ miles and loading night before, between transport and weight loss it is 10c/kg alone to break even.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #5275
    Mooooo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Bass Reeves wrote: »
    Got barley and hulls in September barley was full of screedings and no flour in husks. At present feeding a nut that is 50% maize, 10% wheat ,16% hulls 17% rapeseed, 2% mins 3%molasses 2% lime. Cattle triving, it is about 14.%%P I am in a quandry as I want to drop P for lasy 6 week normally i just add barley from bags. Slow to add more Naize as it slows the rumen too much. Will buy a bag or two to see quality of barley.



    Very hard to get a ration tested as it seperates however You should have an idea from amount of flour in barley and amount of different ingredients. A nut is easy enough to test and a good idea as you have no clue as to what they out in it.



    Nearest Factory to me is about 12 miles for me to travel to next nearest about 30 miles would cost me 2.5c/kg in transport alone. When you move beyond that to one;s 60+ miles and loading night before, between transport and weight loss it is 10c/kg alone to break even.

    Could you up the maize and wheat a bit and lower the rapeseed. Wheat should keep the rumen going for the maize?


  • #5276
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,270 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Could you up the maize and wheat a bit and lower the rapeseed. Wheat should keep the rumen going for the maize?

    Not economical to buy Maize in bags and hard to get wheat either. Do not want to change the nut as I have other cattle not ready to move on to lower P finishing stage.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #5277
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Bass Reeves wrote: »
    Not economical to buy Maize in bags and hard to get wheat either. Do not want to change the nut as I have other cattle not ready to move on to lower P finishing stage.

    For finishing it might be though, what about a half ton bag just for the last 30 days?

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #5278
    jfh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭jfh


    Offered 3.70 for 21 months blues. That the general rate? Thanks


  • #5279
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,270 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    blue5000 wrote: »
    For finishing it might be though, what about a half ton bag just for the last 30 days?

    If I increase the maize intake too much it will reduce intake. Cattle with a full rumen will not keep feeding. I am thinking of buying some maize and barley and mixing it 60/40 to add another kg/head to intake. But it is a bit messy.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #5280
    Robson99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,657 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Bass Reeves wrote: »
    If I increase the maize intake too much it will reduce intake. Cattle with a full rumen will not keep feeding. I am thinking of buying some maize and barley and mixing it 60/40 to add another kg/head to intake. But it is a bit messy.

    I would have thought the maize would have the opposite effect.

    Heifers here are on 16 % finishing nut and barley, 50 -50. On 5kg per day and will be upped to 7.5 kg day. Ad lib silage with that

    For the last 40 days the are then put onto 10 kg day makeup of 4kg barley 4 kg nut and 2 kg maize. They get an acid buff as well at this stage and ad lib hay and straw. Can still notice some particles of the maize in the dung


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  • #5281
    limo_100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭limo_100


    lads I sold a bullock in may and he was killed in the middle of October just wondering if this man made any money he was 28 months 386 R+2= what was his KO% ??


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