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El Presidente Trump

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  • #4952
    Hande hoche!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,949 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    pumpkin4life wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/801221546685661184

    I'll take back what I said. There isn't a conspiracy.

    Nate Silver is utterly incompetent at statistics and he should never be trusted again. :(

    Hasn't been a kind year for Nate.


  • #4953
    Jimoslimos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    It gives a voice to all of the States. You can't every election decided by California and New York.
    That is what the US Senate does. Equal representation to all states irrespective of population.


  • #4954
    B0jangles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    Trump's son has been having secret meetings with regard to working with Russia re Syria.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trumps-eldest-son-secret-talks-syria-paris-ritz-russia-a7436706.html

    Reminder 1: He has no qualifications or experience WHATSOEVER for this role.

    Reminder 2: Trump's kids are supposed to be detached from his political life because of the whole "running his companies for him" joke version of a blind trust he's trying to establish.


  • #4955
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,485 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Couple of lawyers have come out and said that Trump would be in complete violation of the us constitution the minute he took the oath due to his business dealings...the only way around it would be to sell the entire Trump business empire.

    This election just keeps on giving!


  • #4956
    InTheTrees
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    The electoral college was invented for a reason.

    A surprising reason too.

    Federalist paper 68, talks about the founding fathers fear of an inexperienced but charismatic strong man taking control, and how the electoral college should act against that.


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  • #4957
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,107 ✭✭✭Christy42


    B0jangles wrote: »
    Trump's son has been having secret meetings with regard to working with Russia re Syria.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trumps-eldest-son-secret-talks-syria-paris-ritz-russia-a7436706.html

    Reminder 1: He has no qualifications or experience WHATSOEVER for this role.

    Reminder 2: Trump's kids are supposed to be detached from his political life because of the whole "running his companies for him" joke version of a blind trust he's trying to establish.

    It is kinda impressive how corrupt the man is before even taking the oath. I mean sure we have had corruption with the likes of Bertie and that but I don't think any managed to achieve this much between winning the vote and taking office.

    Waiting around for RobertKK to be furious at the nepotism after he gave out about from the Clinton's and Bush's during the campaign now.


  • #4958
    InTheTrees
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    B0jangles wrote: »
    Reminder 2: Trump's kids are supposed to be detached from his political life because of the whole "running his companies for him" joke version of a blind trust he's trying to establish.

    Republicans in congress will have a hard time standing by if he's openly cheating.

    Right now he doesn't seem to put much value in separating his business interests from the presidency.


  • #4959
    ebbsy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,260 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    The electoral college was invented for a reason. And besides, no one wants liberal California or New York deciding the fate of the country.

    I have to agree. Could you imagine the idiots who are out protesting running a country ?

    I doubt if half of them voted.


  • #4960
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,340 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    The whole recount thing is nothing to do with Hillary. The Green Party are trying to get to 5% so they qualify for federal funding.


  • #4961
    Jimoslimos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    MadYaker wrote: »
    The whole recount thing is nothing to do with Hillary. The Green Party are trying to get to 5% so they qualify for federal funding.
    Green Party aren't anywhere near 5%, maybe it might push that gobsh1te, Gary Johnson of the Libertarian Party, over the threshold.


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  • #4962
    HellSquirrel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭HellSquirrel


    Trump is apparently turning down intelligence briefings.

    For heaven's sake, if ever a man needed them...


  • #4963
    The flying mouse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    California Rep. Devin Nunes, who is on the Trump transition team and also the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, isn't worried. He said, "National security is Donald Trump’s No. 1 priority and I think he’s taking it very seriously. Look how many leaders he’s met with, how many phone calls he’s done, positions he’s filled. People who are being critical need to get a life.”

    The good news is that Mike Pence, on the other hand, has made time for the briefings every day since the election,


    That's my last word here.:)


  • #4964
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,107 ✭✭✭Christy42


    HellSquirrel wrote: »
    Trump is apparently turning down intelligence briefings.

    For heaven's sake, if ever a man needed them...

    In fairness it would be like sending your pet dog into a quantum physics class. Sure the dog is hardly an expert on quantum physics before hand but I don't see the classes helping.


  • #4965
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,340 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    How intelligent is he really I wonder? I don't think he's an idiot, but take for example if he needs to make a call on whether or not to carry out a strike on some target in a contentious area of the Middle East where the US aren't supposed to be operating. This is something he knows nothing about so he's going to have his advisors bombarding him with lots of information in a short space of time, he's going to have to process all this information, weigh up the pros and cons and make a call, potentially over the course of a minute or two. Is he the kind of person who can think clearly in highly pressurised situations like that? I'm not so sure.


  • #4966
    HellSquirrel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭HellSquirrel


    MadYaker wrote: »
    How intelligent is he really I wonder? I don't think he's an idiot, but take for example if he needs to make a call on whether or not to carry out a strike on some target in a contentious area of the Middle East where the US aren't supposed to be operating. This is something he knows nothing about so he's going to have his advisors bombarding him with lots of information in a short space of time, he's going to have to process all this information, weigh up the pros and cons and make a call, potentially over the course of a minute or two. Is he the kind of person who can think clearly in highly pressurised situations like that? I'm not so sure.

    It's pretty hard to tell. He's not strong on knowledge, which isn't the same thing. His vocabulary is elementary. He -is- cunning and either very smart when it comes to finding what will benefit him or good at hiring lawyers who will do the same! Since I don't know which, it's not really reflective of his intelligence.

    Unfortunately, it's not really agreed what intelligence is anyway. IQ tests don't mean a great deal, they just mean that you're good (or bad!) at taking IQ tests. Academic brilliance is another sort (and that's not one that Trump strikes me as having, since it -tends- to result from keen interest in gaining information, which Trump doesn't have. Emotional intelligence? Good at reading people and controlling a crowd? He can do the latter pretty effectively, although he falls down when he's not getting a response (compare his live performances with the debates, where the audience weren't allowed to cheer).

    Dunno, really. From what I've seen so far, he's more cunning than intelligent. Doesn't mean he's not, just whatever intelligence he has, he's determined to bend only to his own ends. So far, his businesses come before his country and Trump's own benefit comes before his businesses.


  • #4967
    MPFGLB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    HellSquirrel wrote: »
    It's pretty hard to tell. He's not strong on knowledge, which isn't the same thing. His vocabulary is elementary. He -is- cunning and either very smart when it comes to finding what will benefit him or good at hiring lawyers who will do the same! Since I don't know which, it's not really reflective of his intelligence.

    Unfortunately, it's not really agreed what intelligence is anyway. IQ tests don't mean a great deal, they just mean that you're good (or bad!) at taking IQ tests. Academic brilliance is another sort (and that's not one that Trump strikes me as having, since it -tends- to result from keen interest in gaining information, which Trump doesn't have. Emotional intelligence? Good at reading people and controlling a crowd? He can do the latter pretty effectively, although he falls down when he's not getting a response (compare his live performances with the debates, where the audience weren't allowed to cheer).

    Dunno, really. From what I've seen so far, he's more cunning than intelligent. Doesn't mean he's not, just whatever intelligence he has, he's determined to bend only to his own ends. So far, his businesses come before his country and Trump's own benefit comes before his businesses.


    He is intelligent enough and if he applied himself he would be alraight...The problem is he is very lazy when it comes to detail or knowledge...broad strokes is his approach ....the big problems will fall to advisors...so its the view of his trusted adviors that will matter and herein lies some of the problems given the views of these adviisors


  • #4968
    HellSquirrel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭HellSquirrel


    MPFGLB wrote: »
    He is intelligent enough and if he applied himself he would be alraight...The problem is he is very lazy when it comes to detail or knowledge...broad strokes is his approach ....the big problems will fall to advisors...so its the view of his trusted adviors that will matter and herein lies some of the problems given the views of these adviisors

    A few of us did predict that Pence'd be running the show if he got in. Lazy is tricky, he seems to have plenty of energy when he's motivated to do something, but if he's not interested, he's not motivated. Like the lack of intelligence briefings. And it's something I've read about him before according to people he works with, that he prefers to work on his own schedule and if he's not interested in something, he prefers to find something else to do. (Well, that's the gist of it, it was phrased differently).


  • #4969
    ebbsy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,260 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Well he steamrollered

    16 Republican candidates
    The media
    Hillary

    So he's not stupid.


  • #4970
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,107 ✭✭✭Christy42


    ebbsy wrote: »
    Well he steamrollered

    16 Republican candidates
    The media
    Hillary

    So he's not stupid.

    David Beckham was a great footballer. He is still not the brightest footballer in spite of beating a lot of people. Terrible argument.

    No one ever said he wasn't a natural salesman. That is no the same as intelligence.


  • #4971
    HellSquirrel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭HellSquirrel


    ebbsy wrote: »
    Well he steamrollered

    16 Republican candidates
    The media
    Hillary

    So he's not stupid.

    Well, is "steamrolling" a sign of intelligence or just a forceful personality? If you want to look at it as he decided at the start that the best way to win was by sheer unpredictability and shouting a lot, then yeah, he succeeded, and it was a winning tactic. But at what cost?

    The man says he's extremely intelligent and ..uh.. "knows all the best words" (I give him props for "braggadocious", that is a good (and perfectly cromulent!) word). But, analysing the last few months, the supporting arguments appear to me as;

    - He won, therefore he did something right.
    - He's a personally successful businessman.

    He certainly has a finely honed sense for what will benefit him personally. His investors lose out on his deals, but he generally comes away with a golden handshake. Just good business? Maybe, but a business only succeeds in a good economy, where other businesses can profit doing things that your business can't, including things that your business needs. Not paying contractors and doing everything possible to avoid contributing to the very system that allows your businesses to thrive is very short-sighted. He thinks in the short-term, which can work well for an unscrupulous businessman, so could call it a personally beneficial or intelligent choice. Well, I say thrive, but according to the "totally failing" New York Times, 40% of his business ventures have failed*. New York Times may or may not suffer the same fate as many paper media outlets, but so far it's outlasted Trump Steaks, Trump Casinos (at least the three in Atlantic City), Trump animated series (?!), Trump Tycoon (mobile app), Trump Network, Trump Vodka, Trump Golf Links, Trump Institute, Trump University and the Trump Foundation, at least so far as New York is concerned.

    Glass houses and all that.

    Also, wtf is with this new email scandal involving Pence? Dammit, America, sort your ****s out already! This reality tv series jumped the shark a while ago!



    *Of 61 they looked at, so it probably isn't absolutely representative of his entire venture set, but assuming they were reasonably fair in how they selected them, it probably is reasonably close.


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  • #4972
    El Horseboxo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,342 ✭✭✭El Horseboxo


    MadYaker wrote: »
    The whole recount thing is nothing to do with Hillary. The Green Party are trying to get to 5% so they qualify for federal funding.

    The funding is only Jill Stein in name. Nobody is donating money to try push the Green Party to 5%.


  • #4973
    Trent Houseboat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭Trent Houseboat


    He has the vocabulary of an eight year old. Everything is superlatives. Wow. So, so, so, so, very bad worst terrible Iran deal. Wow.
    It's not necessarily an indication of intelligence, but a good measure of how well read a person is. America has elected a man who would need to take a break half way through an Ann and Barry story.

    "I know words, I have the best words." is the most concise example of the Dunning Kruger effect I've ever seen.


  • #4974
    AllGunsBlazing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,692 ✭✭✭AllGunsBlazing


    Christy42 wrote: »
    David Beckham was a great footballer. He is still not the brightest footballer in spite of beating a lot of people. Terrible argument.

    In fairness yours is not exactly a prize winning analogy either.

    ...David Beckham???


  • #4975
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,550 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    HellSquirrel wrote: »
    A few of us did predict that Pence'd be running the show if he got in. Lazy is tricky, he seems to have plenty of energy when he's motivated to do something, but if he's not interested, he's not motivated. Like the lack of intelligence briefings. And it's something I've read about him before according to people he works with, that he prefers to work on his own schedule and if he's not interested in something, he prefers to find something else to do. (Well, that's the gist of it, it was phrased differently).
    He's a con man

    Con men aren't necessarily intelligent, they're just prepared to lie directly to your face in a way that doesn't display the usual social signals that give away when someone isn't being honest.

    Most people can't lie directly to someone's face without feeling some degree of embarrassment or anxiety about being found out.

    Trump is able to look people directly in the eye and promise them something that he knows he probably won't deliver, and failure to do so, could mean huge negative consequences for that person.

    Trump has personal charm, the charm of the dodgy used car salesman who will look you directly in the eye as he tells you that you're getting a great bargain on a banger that will fall apart in 2 months.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • #4976
    MPFGLB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    Akrasia wrote: »
    He's a con man

    Con men aren't necessarily intelligent, they're just prepared to lie directly to your face in a way that doesn't display the usual social signals that give away when someone isn't being honest.

    Most people can't lie directly to someone's face without feeling some degree of embarrassment or anxiety about being found out.

    Trump is able to look people directly in the eye and promise them something that he knows he probably won't deliver,     and failure to do so, could mean huge negative consequences for that person.

    Trump has personal charm, the charm of the dodgy used car salesman who will look you directly in the eye as he tells you that you're getting a great bargain on a banger that will fall apart in 2 months.

    Trump is a sociopath

    I am reading the Sociopath Next Door and he fits all the criteria

    Biggest indicator of a socipath is they have no conscience
    BTW 1 in 25 people are estimated to be a sociopaths


  • #4977
    ebbsy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,260 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    HellSquirrel wrote: »
    Trump is apparently turning down intelligence briefings.

    For heaven's sake, if ever a man needed them...


    If I said that the moon was made of cheese would you believe that as well ??


  • #4978
    Nidom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭Nidom


    It's not?


  • #4979
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    ebbsy wrote: »
    If I said that the moon was made of cheese would you believe that as well ??

    There's that famous Trump fan double think at work again! :D


  • #4980
    HellSquirrel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭HellSquirrel


    ebbsy wrote: »
    If I said that the moon was made of cheese would you believe that as well ??

    I would probably say "Ebbsy apparently believes that the moon is made of cheese", since I would be going on the empirical evidence of your silly statement. I can't make an objective statement that ebbsy actually believes in it, I can only say what you have stated.

    As I did in the previous. Based on the reports I read, Trump is apparently turning down intelligence briefings, backed up by the number of intelligence briefings he has reportedly taken (two), compared to the numbers of briefings previous president-elects have done in the same period and compared to Pence, who is reported to be making time for them nearly every day. I hope you can see the logical progression between these points, and are mentally comparing them to your example.

    In short, your point?


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  • #4981
    HellSquirrel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭HellSquirrel


    The Trump transition has already overturned the normal practice of choosing top cabinet members behind closed doors, turning it into a spectacle with contenders boarding a golden elevator in Trump headquarters in New York in front of the cameras on their way to making their pitch to the president-elect.

    The Apprentice: White House

    Watch the first season on Trump TV.


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