El Presidente Trump

nhunter100 · 24-11-2016 03:42PM

Rainman16 wrote:

Just imagine the sh1t storm if somehow this is turned around for Clinton.

You'll be grand it won't.

Laois_Man · 24-11-2016 04:56PM

nhunter100 wrote: »

Trump will have an easier time than Obama had where Congress is concerned.

Only for the next 2 years!

The Democrats also had control of the white house, the senate and the house for Obama's first 2 years - In fact, they had control of the senate for 6 of his 8 years.

I would confidently predict that the mid-term elections of 2018 will see at least one of them fall back to the Democrats. So Trump only has 2 years to get stuff done really.

nhunter100 · 24-11-2016 05:00PM

Laois_Man wrote:

I would confidently predict that the mid-term elections of 2018 will see at least one of them fall back to the Democrats. So Trump only has 2 years to get stuff done really.

Best not to predict anything. I remember Hillary being predicted as the first female president.

Laois_Man · 24-11-2016 05:03PM

nhunter100 wrote: »

There's no point to get, several Presidents were elected without achieving the popular vote and they still preformed their job and even got re elected.

It hasn't happened many times at all

In fact, it never happened even once in the 20th century.

Laois_Man · 24-11-2016 05:06PM

nhunter100 wrote: »

Best not to predict anything. I remember Hillary being predicted as the first female president.

That's exactly why the Republicans got control of everything. American's historically do not like giving one party control of everything and even most people voting for Trump probably thought Clinton was going to win!

They'll know in 2018, and fix it accordingly.

KingBrian2 · 24-11-2016 05:11PM

nhunter100 wrote: »

Best not to predict anything. I remember Hillary being predicted as the first female president.

The correct word is Coronated.;)

nhunter100 · 24-11-2016 05:14PM

Laois_Man wrote:

It hasn't happened many times at all

I said several not 'many' and when it happened is irrelevant. It happened.

nhunter100 · 24-11-2016 05:14PM

KingBrian2 wrote:

The correct word is Coronated.

True.

nhunter100 · 24-11-2016 05:15PM

Laois_Man wrote:

They'll know in 2018, and fix it accordingly.

Give me the lotto numbers when you get time. ;-)

Laois_Man · 24-11-2016 05:20PM

nhunter100 wrote: »

I said several not 'many' and when it happened is irrelevant. It happened.

Still several didn't happen and several didn't get re-elected.

4 former Presidents lost the popular vote, 4 is not not several
And only one got re-elected.

nhunter100 · 24-11-2016 05:24PM

Laois_Man wrote:

4 former Presidents lost the popular vote, 4 is not not several And only one got re-elected.

Several def- more than 2 but not many. Are you trying to be pedantic?

KingBrian2 · 24-11-2016 05:25PM

Wonder what Abe Lincoln is feeling about this election. He is probably saying "play nice you Democrats and Republicans, last time you got into a tiff you brought the house down."

Ferrari3600 · 24-11-2016 05:26PM

A Little Pony wrote: »

How many people go around whining that Al Gore won the popular vote and didn't become President? No one cares, he lost. Same with Hillary Clinton, the majority of states voted Trump.

That doesn't change the fact that the system needs reform as it gives undue Electoral College weightings to states of relatively low population. Not surprising that the New Yorkers and Californians are pissed off, although I'd be doubtful if talk of those states seceeding leads to anything.

And, no I didn't think HRC was a good candidate.

Galway_Old_Man · 24-11-2016 05:27PM

Laois_Man wrote: »

4 former Presidents lost the popular vote, 4 is not not several

Uhh-huh.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 24-11-2016 05:28PM

Ferrari3600 wrote: »

That doesn't change the fact that the system needs reform as it gives undue Electoral College weightings to states of relatively low population. Not surprising that the New Yorkers and Californians are pissed off, although I'd be doubtful if talk of those states seceeding leads to anything.

And, no I didn't think HRC was a good candidate.

It gives a voice to all of the States. You can't every election decided by California and New York.

Laois_Man · 24-11-2016 05:29PM

nhunter100 wrote: »

Several def- more than 2 but not many. Are you trying to be pedantic?

Sit down for today's maths lesson

1 is not more than 2!

nhunter100 · 24-11-2016 05:31PM

Laois_Man wrote:

1 is not more than 2!

Well done on your grasp of maths, I said several throughout American history. Now if you still have trouble understanding what several means a dictionary is a useful and invaluable resource.

Laois_Man · 24-11-2016 05:35PM

nhunter100 wrote: »

Well done on your grasp of maths, I said several throughout American history. Now if you still have trouble understanding what several means a dictionary is a useful and invaluable resource.

You actually said several got elected after losing the popular vote and ended up getting re-elected

Only Dubya did!

And by they way, there's still some dispute that he even won legitimately under the EC system in 2000

KingBrian2 · 24-11-2016 05:38PM

President elect Donald J Trump needs to channel the ghost of Abraham Lincoln and unite the country. Nobody liked him when he was elected yet today he has a statue in Washington D.C. Not trying to say Trump will be the next Lincoln only that people need to judge him on what he does not what he says. Trump is a doer. The election was all blabber spouted out from both candidates. Now the real hard work begins.

nhunter100 · 24-11-2016 05:40PM

Laois_Man wrote:

You actually said several got elected after losing the popular vote and ended up getting re-elected

Yes I said several got elected after losing the popular vote but I didn't say they all got reelected. Anyway it still doesn't change Trump is the Prezzie elect and Hills is off locking her wounds. 2 disgustingly dreadful candidates by the way. America good luck for the next 4 years. But it has been fun watching the absolute abhorrence displayed by some to the American democratic system ( of course only because it went against their desire). Take care y'all.....

jimgoose · 24-11-2016 05:40PM

Laois_Man wrote: »

You actually said several got elected after losing the popular vote and ended up getting re-elected...

He didn't actually say they all got re-elected. Granted the meaning would have been clearer had he said "...and even, in one case, got re-elected."

Laois_Man · 24-11-2016 05:48PM

jimgoose wrote: »

He didn't actually say they all got re-elected. Granted the meaning would have been clearer had he said "...and even, in one case, got re-elected."

"They", i.e >1 and in the context of "several"

nhunter100 wrote: »

There's no point to get, several Presidents were elected without achieving the popular vote and they still preformed their job and even got re elected.

THIS IS FUN!

Also, I see Jill Stein is intending to have a full audit and recount of votes in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and has already raised the necessary $2 Million to have it done.

I would just laugh my arse off if it showed up issues and even went the other way - however unlikely!

Hande hoche! · 24-11-2016 05:49PM

Smart move by Stein, will keep her in the spotlight. Will be awkward if it increases the margin of the Donald's win.

pumpkin4life · 24-11-2016 05:52PM

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/801221546685661184

I'll take back what I said. There isn't a conspiracy.

Nate Silver is utterly incompetent at statistics and he should never be trusted again.

Billy86 · 24-11-2016 05:52PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

It gives a voice to all of the States. You can't every election decided by California and New York.

I'd rather see a voice given to all of the people than all of the states to be honest, never did get how the EC system is still used in this day and age. That said, it is the system in place and Trump won through it.

nhunter100 · 24-11-2016 05:54PM

Laois_Man wrote:

Also, I see Jill Stein is intending to have a full audit and recount of votes in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and has already raised the necessary $2 Million to have it done.

Might be best if you read the full article carried by Reuters. That money would be better spent in areas in dire need. Plenty of them in the US.

A Little Pony · 24-11-2016 05:54PM

The electoral college was invented for a reason. And besides, no one wants liberal California or New York deciding the fate of the country.

Christy42 · 24-11-2016 05:58PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

It gives a voice to all of the States. You can't every election decided by California and New York.

Seriously there was no real reason for either candidate to campaign in the most populated state.

There was a handful of states where a vote had a serious chance of making an impact. The representative system works well for a house but the president is too all or nothing for it to work well (well it rarely comes up but still).

You could have other comprises aside from most votes wins. Maybe have states send electorates proportionally? It would give people in non swing states a reason to vote.

Laois_Man · 24-11-2016 05:58PM

nhunter100 wrote: »

Might be best if you read the full article carried by Reuters. That money would be better spent in areas in dire need. Plenty of them in the US.

I read it on CNN

That OK with ya?

nhunter100 · 24-11-2016 06:00PM

Laois_Man wrote:

That OK with ya?

Hopefully you read the full piece. At the end of the day I don't give a feck, I voted for Kodos.

El Presidente Trump

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