Brexit: The Last Stand (No name calling)

Racist piece of sh1t and human frog hybrid Farage is warning the British (from America) that there's going to be trouble if Brexit doesn't happen. Bet the Brits are shaking at the thought they might have made this nobody angry.From the BBC.

"Another big seismic shock" could hit British politics at the next election, Nigel Farage has warned Theresa May if Brexit is not delivered by 2020.
The interim UKIP leader said he suspected the Conservative Government "is not fit for the legacy of Brexit".
He made the remarks at a reception in London's Ritz Hotel to celebrate his contribution to the Brexit victory.
In a nod to Donald Trump's call for him to be UK ambassador to the US, he handed out Ferrero Rocher chocolates.
The sweet treats were famously offered in an advert set at an "ambassador's reception" and included the oft-quoted line: "You are really spoiling us."
Downing Street has already rejected Mr Trump's claim that Mr Farage would do a "great job" as ambassador by saying "there is no vacancy

And Mr Farage has dismissed reports that he is planning to emigrate to the United States.
Mr Farage was introduced for his speech by Leave.EU spokesman Andy Wigmore, who accompanied him in a meeting with the US president-elect at Trump Tower earlier this month - with a call for attention from "Ladies, Gents, Lords and... diplomats."
Mr Farage told the gathering: "We've got a problem. In America the revolution is total. Not only have the people spoken and won, but the old administration, Obama and all those ghastly people, are out and the Trump people are in.
"In this country, the people have spoken, but the same players have just been shuffled around the chess board and we are still being run by the career professional political class.
"I am not sure what is going to happen over the course of the next couple of years but I suspect there's another big seismic shock in British politics perhaps going to come at the next election.
"I suspect that the Conservative Party is not fit for the legacy of Brexit. I suspect there is going to be a genuine realignment of British politics over the course of the next three or four years.
"It is unfinished business - the people have spoken but the establishment don't want to listen. There are great battles to be fought and I'm going to go on fighting those battles."

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Multi-millionaire, former City Trader, and politician Nigel Farage, who has been bitching about 'career politicians' and 'the elite' had a party thrown for him in the Ritz last night by press barons and Tory MP's, and is eyeing up a position as British ambassador to the US sought by a billionaire turned US president elect.

You. Couldn't. Make. It. Up.

Deleted User wrote: »

Well the UK & USA never elected fascist governments unlike Italy and one other well known EU member, Spain became fascist after a civil war.

Add Greece and Portugal to the list and Hungary and possibly Poland are heading that way.

jmayo wrote: »

I love when someone starts a post with those words.

For someone that claims others know shag all and are being duped you didn't offer one actual argument to contradict some of my points.

Your show of arrogance and supposed knowledge was totally shown up for what it is when your assertion that the UK and USA were more open to fascism than continental Europe.
History begs to differ.

Of course you waffle about "post truth", but you can't contradict the evidence that European media have been covering up information that doesn't suit the agenda set by mainstream politicians, EU leadership, big finance and NGOs.

Fact1 : there were huge number of sexual assaults carried out by new migrants on New Years Eve in number of EU cities, particularly Cologne.
The authorities refused to acknowledge the scale of it and the mainstream media ignored it.

Fact2 : the migrants arriving in EU were initially portrayed as Syrian refugees, then they were just refugees and eventually acknowledged as being largely economic migrants, all be it fleeing from some right shyteholes.

I don't expect you to follow me, but why don't you start asking who exactly you are following ?

His point was that history is why Europe is less likely to turn to facism again. They know where that path leads. This situation is different to mid 20th century because we know how that ended up. I am hoping he is right as history has repeated itself before.

Fact 1. You can't call out immigrants on these attacks and then elect someone who admits to sexually assaulting women president and hold the moral high ground. Life doesn't work that way. Women have been complaining about issues around sexual assault for years and this is the first time the right wingers paid attention. I wonder why.

Fact 2. Many are indeed Syrian refugees. Many are also leaving horrific places so can you really blame them.

A Little Pony wrote: »

A great patriot and thanks to him we got the referendum in the first place. His place in history is assured. And he isn't wrong, I dare them to try and stop Brexit.

A great patriot who believes in Brexit so much he's moving his family out of the UK.

Christy42 wrote: »

His point was that history is why Europe is less likely to turn to facism again. They know where that path leads. This situation is different to mid 20th century because we know how that ended up. I am hoping he is right as history has repeated itself before.

Fact 1. You can't call out immigrants on these attacks and then elect someone who admits to sexually assaulting women president and hold the moral high ground. Life doesn't work that way. Women have been complaining about issues around sexual assault for years and this is the first time the right wingers paid attention. I wonder why.

I didn't elect anyone.
And just because I agree with some things Trump stands for doesn't mean I agree with everything he says or has done.
He is an egotistical arrogant ignorant celebrity gobdaw.

But I can understand how some people voted for him without labelling them racists, bigots, xenophobes, homophobes, islamaphobes, etc, etc.

Some people voted for him because they are tired of the usual shyte that sees them worse off with no hope.

Likewise why some voted for Brexit in UK.
Yes these people like Farage and Trump get support from some distinctly distasteful people and groups, but if uit was only down to those their causes would get nowhere.
But of course to some it is much easier to claim everyone that voted for Trump or support him are one of the above list.

Also you are using the argument about how this was the first time the right wing cared about sexual assault of women when you really should be asking where were the left and the feminist movement.
Why are they showing more concern for the enemies of what they stand for rather than the people who they have fought for decades.

Why can't people understand that if you leave a vacuum then people will start turning to whoever shows concern.

I use the example of Wisconsin.
Wisconsin had voted for Democrat since 1988.
In fact the margin of victory had grown for Obama in 2008 and 2012.
But then in 2016 they voted for Trump.
Why ?
If they were racist why had they given Obama larger majorities than predecessors ?
Were they suddenly now racist ?

Perhaps maybe it had something to do with fact Trump visited 5 times and Clinton couldn't be ar**ed going once ?

Christy42 wrote: »

Fact 2. Many are indeed Syrian refugees. Many are also leaving horrific places so can you really blame them.

It is the way it was played in the media, by politicians, by left, by NGOs and by the celebrity know nothings.
The real refugees are not the young lads wandering around Greece, Southern Italy or indeed walking to Germany.
The real forgotten ones are the women, children and the old sitting in camps in Lebanon, Jordan and indeed Turkey.

Just because you live in a crap hole doesn't automatically give one a right to wander into Europe and claim whatever freebie you fancy.
And yes it was quiet obvious it was freebies rather than safe havens these people wanted when they camped in Calais, left Denmark for Sweden when they were going to be charged or wandered across Europe to reach Germany.

jmayo wrote: »

Also you are using the argument about how this was the first time the right wing cared about sexual assault of women when you really should be asking where were the left and the feminist movement.
Why are they showing more concern for the enemies of what they stand for rather than the people who they have fought for decades.

Can you please substantiate how the left and the feminist movement showed "more concern for the enemies of what they stand for"?
As regards sexual assault, the enemies of what they stand for are presumably in this case men who would carry out sexual assault. Mysoginists and racists would also be enemies of what they stand for presumably.
In fighting mysoginists and racists like Bannon, Trump, Farage, Putin the left and feminist movement are fighting their "enemies of what they stand for".

Deleted User wrote: »

Well the UK & USA never elected fascist governments unlike Italy and one other well known EU member, Spain became fascist after a civil war.

I know nothing about USA but I've been following Brexit debate very closely and spent significant time in UK in the last 3 years due to business commitments. And I'd like to tell you that they don't need to elect fascist government, they have one.

A Little Pony wrote: »

Labour are under siege in the north of England at the moment with many constituencies up for grabs. The North voted for Brexit, they have to be very careful unless they don't want to be in a job.

Do you think the extra 50 billion in borrowing is worth all this?

jmayo wrote: »

How am I ducking and diving.
I blame the left and others for allowing totally unsuitable incompatible people into Europe and continuing to demand more are left in.
A lot of the vocal ones on the left and in feminist movement have remained damn quiet about sexual attacks by immigrants and are just concerned about the fascists on the right.

If the left and centre call a halt to the madness and call a spade a spade then the oxygen that the right is getting will be removed.
Instead the left is going off abandoning most of it's old core support and indeed values.



The thing is I don't want to add to the numbers of people with abhorrent views in Europe.
I don't see how inviting in thousands who detest our secular hard won rights and who don't want to integrate into our societies as a good thing.
Would you be as happy inviting in members of the KKK or the Westboro Baptist church, be honest ?



Excuse me, but isn't that presumptious.
Has he ever been found guilt of any criminal wrongdoing ?

You are ducking and diving because you keep going back to the left. I never mentioned the left. You also went into a long tirade excusing people who voted Trump which was entirely irrelevant to what I had posted. The left are simply not highlighting attacks from immigrants as opposed to others. There are many cases that haven't been overly highlighted by the left from white people as well.

He admitted some guilt in the Trump U case to begin with. He admitted sexual assault in the tape.

I hate the KKK and wbc but as far as I am aware membership of neither is barred from emigrating to Ireland? I would also consider average members of both groups to be far worse than the average middle eastern person. Only way I could see is if kkk is still classed as a terrorist group from when they were active in the 60s and muslims are not considered a terrorist group.