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rex-x · 23-11-2016 05:12PM

frozenfrozen wrote: »

I have to go out now so I'll just leave this too

Dangerous driving on his record so he will have very expensive insurance. 500 euro fine, and the original speeding fine. and 5 points so if he was to do it again he would be as good as banned.

What happened in this case will be his solicitor has talked to the guard and got them to reduce the charge to careless driving (dangerous driving is a mandatory ban) they can do this right up until the minute they go to the judge. Garda agreed and hence its only careless driving with 5 points, otherwise he wouldnt have a licence!

TallGlass · 23-11-2016 06:30PM

pablo128 wrote: »

Oh go away with the doomsday talk. 140 mph,'ish. Nothing to that bike, and what now, you need roads as smooth as glass now to speed? I had a motorcycle banked over on a motorway bend at 100mph when the chain broke. Unbelievably, I managed to come to a stop safely without catapulting into the nearest field.

I will agree though, he got away very lightly.

Doomsday talk. It's not Doomsday, you hit a rock on the road your coming off. Fair play to you doing 100mph around a bend, I never said you couldn't speed on any road. If you ask me it's sheer luck you walked away from a chain snapping at that speed. Someone else might not be as lucky or have the same conditions as you had.

You go ahead and keep speeding on Irish roads, youll be on the news one of the days if you keep it up. Speed limits are there for a reason, it's a public road not a race track, if you want to max out your bike or go full tilt around a corner go down to modello. At least if you come off there, between your gear having to be up to spec before they let you on and it been a race track you might just walk away.

And your a biker yourself, have a bit more cop on, we are one of the most vulnerable group of road users and from the sounds of it you don't seem to register this fact. I for one hope to god I don't meet you coming around a bend while your doing 100mph while your chain snaps.

nice_guy80 · 23-11-2016 06:57PM

rex-x wrote: »

What happened in this case will be his solicitor has talked to the guard and got them to reduce the charge to careless driving (dangerous driving is a mandatory ban) they can do this right up until the minute they go to the judge. Garda agreed and hence its only careless driving with 5 points, otherwise he wouldnt have a licence!

its what happens in a lot of cases
gardai generally don't want the average motorist losing their licence over one mistake
that is why getting a solicitor who is known in the local court where the case is brought is so important in Ireland
this point is lost on a lot of people. the solicitor might know the garda (from previous cases, or golf or something) and be able to talk them into changing it to the lesser charge

pablo128 · 23-11-2016 07:06PM

TallGlass wrote: »

. I for one hope to god I don't meet you coming around a bend while your doing 100mph while your chain snaps.

What? Do you regularly drive the wrong way on motorways? :pac:

Just because I've broken the speed limit on occasion, doesn't mean I max out on every journey. Who among us hasn't seen an open road in front of us and said fcuk it.

By the way the straight in Mondello isn't long enough to reach Vmax.;)

Atlantic Dawn · 23-11-2016 08:36PM

Someone using a "Darwin Device"...
https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/801411919475339265

Fred Swanson · 23-11-2016 08:42PM

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Insect Overlord · 23-11-2016 08:48PM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

I am confused.

Driver had no seatbelt on. Had the metal yoke plugged in instead to stop the alarm from beeping.

Big Nasty · 23-11-2016 08:49PM

I'm gonna guess bottle opener?

Atlantic Dawn · 23-11-2016 08:49PM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Seat belt buckle, so they can drive around with not wearing the actual full seat belt.

Plenty of them for sale on Ebay...

$_35.JPG

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Universal-Car-Safety-Seat-Belt-Buckle-Support-Alarm-Eliminator-Clip-Stop-Warning-/192035165674?hash=item2cb63015ea:g:uaAAAOSwUdlWeX02

GM228 · 23-11-2016 08:53PM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

I am confused.

By the device or by the idiocy of why someone would want to not wear a seatbelt but rather use that device to silence the alarm (if it's the first part the second part answers your query)

Big Nasty · 23-11-2016 08:56PM

Jeez that's dim

Fred Swanson · 23-11-2016 09:04PM

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Joeseph Balls · 23-11-2016 09:09PM

Id bet I know the guard in offaly who copped that, he'd check the thread on your shoes if he thought he could nab ya

Very thorough and by the book though, fine if everything in order.

Shannon757 · 23-11-2016 09:12PM

Why would you not just put on your seatbelt?

Atlantic Dawn · 23-11-2016 09:12PM

I have seen plenty of people driving around with the belts clipped in and them sitting on the belt rather than around them, equally as bad because when the airbag goes off it will similarly bounce them back in the seat like a rag doll.

NIMAN · 23-11-2016 09:16PM

Adults are told of the benefits of wearing seatbelts.....if they decide not to after that, should we really be worrying about them? Its their life, their choice.

maximum12 · 23-11-2016 09:16PM

Shannon757 wrote: »

Why would you not just put on your seatbelt?

People of a certain vintage who started driving before they were mandatory don't like the feel of a seat belt.

Atlantic Dawn · 23-11-2016 09:20PM

maximum12 wrote: »

People of a certain vintage who started driving before they were mandatory don't like the feel of a seat belt.

Yes I'm the opposite, don't feel secure without it on.

NIMAN · 23-11-2016 09:21PM

maximum12 wrote: »

People of a certain vintage who started driving before they were mandatory don't like the feel of a seat belt.

I never understood this "I don't like the feel of it".....what feel?

Show them a few pictures of people who have gone through the windscreen in crashes and they won't be long putting them on.

Atlantic Dawn · 23-11-2016 09:23PM

NIMAN wrote: »

I never understood this "I don't like the feel of it".....what feel?

Show them a few pictures of people who have gone through the windscreen in crashes and they won't be long putting them on.

Particularly if you look at the old style windscreens where they were not laminated, absolute carnage in a crash.

NIMAN · 23-11-2016 09:26PM

This seatbelt argument always baffled me, and stinks a bit of the nanny state....we all know how good seatbelts are, but if grown adults don't want to wear them, it that not their call?

They should only get points or fines if passengers in their car aren't wearing seatbelts.

Big Nasty · 23-11-2016 09:45PM

NIMAN wrote: »

This seatbelt argument always baffled me, and stinks a bit of the nanny state....we all know how good seatbelts are, but if grown adults don't want to wear them, it that not their call?

They should only get points or fines if passengers in their car aren't wearing seatbelts.

The fella in the back not wearing his seat belt and bouncing around in a crash is what kills fellow passengers according to the RSA.

quadrifoglio verde · 23-11-2016 09:48PM

Big Nasty wrote: »

The fella in the back not wearing his seat belt and bouncing around in a crash is what kills fellow passengers according to the RSA.

I make the fellow in the back wear his belt or he'll be walking home for my safety and the safety of other passengers.
People in other cars, I've no problem with. Them not wearing seat belts isn't going to kill me

NIMAN · 23-11-2016 09:57PM

Big Nasty wrote: »

The fella in the back not wearing his seat belt and bouncing around in a crash is what kills fellow passengers according to the RSA.

My point exactly. The driver is fully responsible for all occupants wearing their seatbelts.

But if he is in a car on his own, should he not be allowed to make the decision not to wear one?

Big Nasty · 23-11-2016 10:00PM

NIMAN wrote: »

My point exactly. The driver is fully responsible for all occupants wearing their seatbelts.

But if he is in a car on his own, should he not be allowed to make the decision not to wear one?

No, because it's fookin stupid not to wear one.

road_high · 23-11-2016 10:03PM

NIMAN wrote: »

This seatbelt argument always baffled me, and stinks a bit of the nanny state....we all know how good seatbelts are, but if grown adults don't want to wear them, it that not their call?

They should only get points or fines if passengers in their car aren't wearing seatbelts.

I couldn't care less about they do to their bodies but issue is the increased potential cost to the taxpayer of the extra care needed for these numpties when they go through the windscreen or the airbag breaks all their limbs.

Odelay · 23-11-2016 10:09PM

NIMAN wrote: »

My point exactly. The driver is fully responsible for all occupants wearing their seatbelts.

But if he is in a car on his own, should he not be allowed to make the decision not to wear one?

Is it really that difficult to use a seatbelt?? If it is that hard to figure out then then perhaps the driver shouldn't be driving. Why should the tax payer pay for their ignorance?

Edit. Just remembered that gem, "what if someone crashes into you?", "well I'll grab hold of the steering wheel"

joebloggs32 · 23-11-2016 10:32PM

Joeseph Balls wrote: »

Id bet I know the guard in offaly who copped that, he'd check the thread on your shoes if he thought he could nab ya
Very thorough and by the book though, fine if everything in order.

Went to school with him. He would give his mother a ticket if he got the chance.

AndrewJRenko · 23-11-2016 11:08PM

LIGHTNING wrote: »

seagull wrote: »

I thought it made sense. In the case of a car being involved in an accident with a bike moving at 218 kmh, the passengers of the car are likely to have serious injuries. The biker is probably going to be a smear on the road, but that doesn't mean the car occupants are going to be left unscathed.

He said even if they are going the same direction. I don't know about you but I`ll take my chances inside a car with crash structures, airbags, ESP+ABS any day of the week.

I guess it's in those cars with crash structures, airbags, ESP + ABS that people die most days of the week.

nice_guy80 · 24-11-2016 07:39AM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

I guess it's in those cars with crash structures, airbags, ESP + ABS that people die most days of the week.

People are dying out walking everyday

All those things are just masking the fact that you drive a killing maching

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