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ironclaw · 22-11-2016 03:40PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

They should extend this to private cars with defective tyres, have a nominated mobile tyre fitter called and tyres replaced at owners expense.

Given that a certain recovery agency has a gravy train from the M50 and other Garda call outs, I'd be against this entirely.

I don't see however why you can't have say a €30 on the spot fine, rising to €120 if you don't present the car to a Garda station for inspection in say 72 hours and a court appearance if its over 14 days. (For example) Simple to implement and its worth €80 to drive to the nearest station even if your local is closed.

Spocker · 22-11-2016 06:29PM

bazz26 wrote: »

218 kph:

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/785396256424206336

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/785396256424206336

Closing the loop here, he was fined €550

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/man-clocked-doing-218km-on-a-motorcycle-fined-550-in-court-765313.html

22-11-2016 06:36PM

Spocker wrote: »

https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/785396256424206336

Closing the loop here, he was fined €550

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/man-clocked-doing-218km-on-a-motorcycle-fined-550-in-court-765313.html

Doesn't say he got penalty points, you would assume he gets 5 points?
Seems to have got away lightly.

Atlantic Dawn · 22-11-2016 06:45PM

Spocker wrote: »

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/man-clocked-doing-218km-on-a-motorcycle-fined-550-in-court-765313.html

As you do :rolleyes:...

Mr Keane's solicitor told the court his client had no previous convictions, and that he had not intended nor realised he had been traveling at such a speed.

TallGlass · 22-11-2016 06:48PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Doesn't say he got penalty points, you would assume he gets 5 points?
Seems to have got away lightly.

Very lightly. What ever about a car at that speed, hit a bump or a stone on a motorbike and your guaranteed to come off at that speed, and to be honest thats the end of you. 550€ and hopefully a bollicking from the judge will send him down the right path.

CalamariFritti · 22-11-2016 09:46PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

As you do :rolleyes:...

Mr Keane's solicitor told the court his client had no previous convictions, and that he had not intended nor realised he had been traveling at such a speed.

So your mans excuse is he didn't know what speed he was doing and he thinks that should be mitigating. I'm thinking the opposite.

enda1 · 22-11-2016 10:49PM

^
And if he crashes he kills himself. So what? His choice, his risk. It's a lot less dangerous than a car doing likewise.

pablo128 · 22-11-2016 11:01PM

TallGlass wrote: »

Very lightly. What ever about a car at that speed, hit a bump or a stone on a motorbike and your guaranteed to come off at that speed, and to be honest thats the end of you. 550€ and hopefully a bollicking from the judge will send him down the right path.

Oh go away with the doomsday talk. 140 mph,'ish. Nothing to that bike, and what now, you need roads as smooth as glass now to speed? I had a motorcycle banked over on a motorway bend at 100mph when the chain broke. Unbelievably, I managed to come to a stop safely without catapulting into the nearest field.

I will agree though, he got away very lightly.

BaronVon · 22-11-2016 11:34PM

enda1 wrote: »

^
And if he crashes he kills himself. So what? His choice, his risk. It's a lot less dangerous than a car doing likewise.

You've obviously never had to scoop one up so. Messy work.....

road_high · 22-11-2016 11:40PM

millington wrote: »

Front fogs don't glare at all usually, some modern cars even use them as their DRLs. Really can't see why people on here have such an issue with it. People complain about having a headlight out but also complain about having fogs on, ya can't win over here

Thy don't bother me too much sight on, but one stuck behind me I do find quite dazzling tbh.

CalamariFritti · 23-11-2016 08:56AM

enda1 wrote: »

^
And if he crashes he kills himself. So what? His choice, his risk. It's a lot less dangerous than a car doing likewise.

True but I still wouldn't want to be in the way of a motorbike at 218. That's a lot of inertia.

enda1 · 23-11-2016 09:05AM

CalamariFritti wrote: »

True but I still wouldn't want to be in the way of a motorbike at 218. That's a lot of inertia.

About the same kinetic energy as a car going 80kph.

It's all relative. Speed shouldn't be looked at as an absolute.
It's obviously dangerous for the biker - but that's his risk.

23-11-2016 11:32AM

enda1 wrote: »

About the same kinetic energy as a car going 80kph.

It's all relative. Speed shouldn't be looked at as an absolute.
It's obviously dangerous for the biker - but that's his risk.

It might be the motorbike drivers risk but his accident if it happened would be another contribution to Garda Speed vans, gatso vans everywhere, ridiculous speed limits and higher insurance premiums for all of us. We all are impacted.

lawred2 · 23-11-2016 11:35AM

millington wrote: »

Front fogs don't glare at all usually, some modern cars even use them as their DRLs. Really can't see why people on here have such an issue with it. People complain about having a headlight out but also complain about having fogs on, ya can't win over here

never understand why people get their knickers in a twist about front fog lights... not remotely glaring and in fact are a great alternative to dipped lights during the day.

Now; rear fog lights are an entirely different story.

I would imagine that those whinging about them would also shout at someone to 'turn off yer lights' during daylight hours..

Atlantic Dawn · 23-11-2016 11:45AM

lawred2 wrote: »

never understand why people get their knickers in a twist about front fog lights... not remotely glaring and in fact are a great alternative to dipped lights during the day.

Now; rear fog lights are an entirely different story.

I would imagine that those whinging about them would also shout at someone to 'turn off yer lights' during daylight hours..

Try being in front of a car with frong fogs on for a half an hour or so and your eyes will be fecked from glare. Any tool with front fogs on with no fog about gets a dose of my rear fogs permanenty on until they eventually understand they have their front fogs on or until someone with a brain explains to them what the magical symbols on their instrument cluster are :pac:

lawred2 · 23-11-2016 11:51AM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Try being in front of a car with frong fogs on for a half an hour or so and your eyes will be fecked from glare. Any tool with front fogs on with no fog about gets a dose of my rear fogs permanenty on until they eventually understand they have their front fogs on or until someone with a brain explains to them what the magical symbols on their instrument cluster are :pac:

Maybe I don't get the glare because I don't get wound up about it and as such I don't spend the entire time in traffic in a rage staring into someone's fog lights in my rear view mirror..

But it's a battleground out there so keep up the good work

bazz26 · 23-11-2016 11:57AM

The hint is in the name lads - fog lights. :pac:

There seems to be a fascination with using them other than when there is fog. Seems to show others that your car is high spec or that they make your car look cooler. :pac:

Cheensbo · 23-11-2016 12:03PM

Mine are called driving lights :P :pac:

I love this debate every time it comes around, its always so rational. In fact, there should be a megathread called:

"Roundabouts, cyclists, foglights & motorway speed limits" and let them at it.

OldMrBrennan83 · 23-11-2016 12:07PM

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two wheels good · 23-11-2016 12:11PM

lawred2 wrote: »

never understand why people get their knickers in a twist about front fog lights... not remotely glaring and in fact are a great alternative to dipped lights during the day.

Now; rear fog lights are an entirely different story.

.

I never understand why drivers fail to follow the advice of the ROTR regarding use of fog lights.

Fog lights are certainly glaring in wet weather.

[Edit: Apologies Mod, our posts crossed in the ether]

flazio · 23-11-2016 12:20PM

Going back to the issue about speeding bikes potentially harming no one but the rider, that's total Bee Ess. If a bike gets involved in a collision with a car or truck, even if both vehicles were travelling in the same direction, the occupants of the 4 or more wheel vehicle are just as likely to suffer horrific or fatal injuries.

ohnonotgmail · 23-11-2016 12:22PM

flazio wrote: »

Going back to the issue about speeding bikes potentially harming no one but the rider, that's total Bee Ess. If a bike gets involved in a collision with a car or truck, even if both vehicles were travelling in the same direction, the occupants of the 4 or more wheel vehicle are just as likely to suffer horrific or fatal injuries.

Even if they are not physically injured i dont think i would fancy the mental trauma of being in an accident where another person was spread across the road. Even if it is not your fault it can still affect you.

Falcon L · 23-11-2016 12:41PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Doesn't say he got penalty points, you would assume he gets 5 points?
Seems to have got away lightly.

According to the Garda twitter feed, he did indeed get 5 points.

seagull · 23-11-2016 01:21PM

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Huh?

I thought it made sense. In the case of a car being involved in an accident with a bike moving at 218 kmh, the passengers of the car are likely to have serious injuries. The biker is probably going to be a smear on the road, but that doesn't mean the car occupants are going to be left unscathed.

frozenfrozen · 23-11-2016 01:24PM

What punishment should he have received? seems fair enough considering trucks with screw drivers holding the suspension together are allowed to drive on

Atlantic Dawn · 23-11-2016 01:27PM

seagull wrote: »

I thought it made sense. In the case of a car being involved in an accident with a bike moving at 218 kmh, the passengers of the car are likely to have serious injuries. The biker is probably going to be a smear on the road, but that doesn't mean the car occupants are going to be left unscathed.

Indeed, I remember seeing these shocking pictures before...

frozenfrozen · 23-11-2016 01:27PM

I have to go out now so I'll just leave this too

Dangerous driving on his record so he will have very expensive insurance. 500 euro fine, and the original speeding fine. and 5 points so if he was to do it again he would be as good as banned.

It was a dry warm Sunday morning on a motorway, he was sober, taxed, and insured. He stopped for the gardai, and admitted to the crime in court. Hardly deserving of having the book thrown at him?

Not knowing how fast he was going didn't get him off the fine. He was saying that essentially he wasn't going for a land speed record, he just rolled on the throttle and 8 seconds later was doing 220km/h.

As punishments go for driving in Ireland this seems really quite reasonable.

Cheensbo · 23-11-2016 01:29PM

Why was that golf parked sideways on the motorway?

frozenfrozen · 23-11-2016 01:30PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Indeed, I remember seeing these shocking pictures before...

The graphic display was placed at the Stockholm Motorcycle Fair by the Swedish Police and Road Safety Department. The sign above the display noted that the rider had only recently obtained his license.

The Honda rider was traveling at such a "very high speed", his reaction time was not sufficient enough to avoid this accident. Swedish Police estimate a speed of ~250 KM/h (155mph) before the bike hit the side of the slow moving car at an intersection. At that speed, they predicted that the rider's reaction time (once the Volkswagen came into view) wasn't sufficient enough for him to even apply the brakes.

The car had two occupants and the bike rider was found INSIDE the car with them, along with the motorcycle itself.

The Volkswagen actually flipped over from the force of impact and landed 10 feet from where the collision took place. All three involved (two in the car, plus the rider) were killed instantly.

The VW pulled out of a junction and the bike hit it head on at 250km/h.

good thing there are no junctions on motorways

enda1 · 23-11-2016 03:07PM

Throw an egg against a car, see which one breaks. Clearly the heavier, stiffer structure is less vulnerable.

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