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High Noon with George Hook.

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  • #242
    Discodog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,014 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Does anyone know what's happened to the viewing figures since the changes ?


  • #243
    Muff Richardson
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭Muff Richardson


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    Obviously it suits the anti-foreigner crowd to invent this nonsense.

    anti-foreigner? this is mainly due to all inclusive religious sensitivity area...and there's plenty of that going around from our own.


  • #244
    Grolschevik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote:
    Apparently George got a letter from some crank today claiming that an unnamed school has banned the phrase "Happy Christmas", and asks students to send "Happy Holidays" cards.

    This sort of thing has previously been media hysteria in English tabloids and the like.


  • #245
    [Deleted User]
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    Muff Richardson wrote: »
    anti-foreigner? this is mainly due to all inclusive religious sensitivity area...and there's plenty of that going around from our own.
    Inclusivity? How awful.

    I will bet you, here and now, a wager of twenty quid there isn't a school in the country advancing this rule. I suspect that the crank letter-writer invented the whole thing, or else the school in question suggested that when speaking to a Muslim or Hindu child, you wish them 'Happy holidays' instead of Happy Christmas.

    If anyone can find the school in question which prohibits wishes of 'Happy Christmas', that twenty quid is yours.


  • #246
    Muff Richardson
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭Muff Richardson


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    Inclusivity? How awful.

    I will bet you, here and now, a wager of twenty quid there isn't a school in the country advancing this rule. I suspect that the crank letter-writer invented the whole thing, or else the school in question suggested that when speaking to a Muslim or Hindu child, you wish them 'Happy holidays' instead of Happy Christmas.

    If anyone can find the school in question which prohibits wishes of 'Happy Christmas', that twenty quid is yours.

    whoahhhh there, easy boy. did you even read my post? or try reading slower without seeing through that cloud of red mist that is getting in the way of your comprehension skills.

    my point which went sky rocketing over your head is that we have enough people here on anti-religious rampage irrespective of race and the crux of such 'happy holidays' campaigns stems from religious sensitivities and respecting each and every one of them or not and not ramming Christianity down peoples throats at the same time every year who do not want it but do want to be part of the festivities...again irrespective of race.


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  • #247
    [Deleted User]
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    Muff Richardson wrote: »
    the crux of such 'happy holidays' campaigns stems from religious sensitivities and respecting each and every one of them or not and not ramming Christianity down peoples throats at the same time every year who do not want it but do want to be part of the festivities...again irrespective of race.
    I'm not being rude but this is really clunky syntax, and it took me a couple of attempts to parse your points; your previous post was vague and did come across as defensive of Hook's point.

    If that's not the case, very well, I unreservedly apologize.

    In any event, my 'wager' was an annex to my last post. It's a general statement, and doesn't apply to yourself alone.


  • #248
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    It's just a soap box isn't it?


  • #249
    Lady Chatterton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,585 ✭✭✭✭Lady Chatterton


    George's show has gone to hell since he moved to midday, I used to enjoy him in the evening but now, I wish he had retired gracefully :(


  • #250
    DeadHand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    or else the school in question suggested that when speaking to a Muslim or Hindu child, you wish them 'Happy holidays' instead of Happy Christmas.

    Which would be almost as bad.

    If someone gets offended by being wished a happy Christmas they should settle instead in a society where Christmas is not widely celebrated.


  • #251
    Pickpocket
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Pickpocket


    Discodog wrote: »
    Does anyone know what's happened to the viewing figures since the changes ?

    The viewing figures for radio stations are traditionally quite low.


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  • #252
    Birneybau
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,420 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Pickpocket wrote: »
    The viewing figures for radio stations are traditionally quite low.

    What about the webcams?


  • #253
    A Shaved Duck?
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭A Shaved Duck?


    Lady Chatterton wrote: »
    George's show has gone to hell since he moved to midday, I used to enjoy him in the evening but now, I wish he had retired gracefully :(

    Hooks Ego wont allow that, plus now his "take the oppposite stance on everything" approach meant he was right about trump getting in means he pontificate as long as possible.


  • #254
    Lady Chatterton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,585 ✭✭✭✭Lady Chatterton


    Discodog wrote: »
    Does anyone know what's happened to the viewing figures since the changes ?
    The most recent listenership figures can be found here:

    http://www.ilevel.ie/media-blog/radio#twilink


  • #255
    Lady Chatterton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,585 ✭✭✭✭Lady Chatterton


    A Shaved Duck? wrote: »
    Hooks Ego wont allow that, plus now his "take the oppposite stance on everything" approach meant he was right about trump getting in means he pontificate as long as possible.
    I will say one thing for Hook, he isn't afraid to talk and to listen to the average Joe and Mary.

    He mentioned in an interview that he knew Trump was going to win because that was the feedback he was getting when he'd talk to regular Americans when during his visits to the States He'd talk to so called experts on his shows but then he'd ask the hotel cleaner or the waiter for their views.

    I think the problem with some journalists and academics is many of them tend to mix in very comfortable social circles and they all end up sharing the same opinions on the world. I feel that's why so many of them were convinced Clinton was going to win.


  • #256
    duploelabs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,031 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Lady Chatterton wrote: »
    I will say one thing about Hook, he isn't afraid to talk and to listen to the average Joe and Mary.

    He mentioned in an interview that he knew Trump was going to win because that was the feedback he was getting when he'd talk to regular Americans when during his visits to the States He'd talk to so called experts on his shows but then he'd ask the hotel cleaner or the waiter for their views.

    I think the problem with some journalists and academics is many of them tend to mix in very comfortable social circles and they all end up sharing the same opinions on the world. I feel that's why so many of them were convinced Clinton was going to win.

    My issue is that he gives equal rating to his mis-informed opinion or the average joe on the street as he does to professionals who's field of expertise they have been studying for years


  • #257
    Lady Chatterton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,585 ✭✭✭✭Lady Chatterton


    duploelabs wrote: »
    My issue is that he gives equal rating to his mis-informed opinion or the average joe on the street as he does to professionals who's field of expertise they have been studying for years
    This is true, but is it any worse than listening to Marian Finucane's Sunday 'love in'? Marian's guests - academics, journalists, politicians and economists pontificate to the rest of us and most of the time they get it wrong as they have no idea of how the average person lives.

    I rarely listen to George's show anymore because when he invites experts on, he frequently ends up talking over them and rubbishing their views.

    I remember him chatting to the psychologist Maureen Gaffney and Dr. Ciara Kelly a few weeks back, both contributors are professionals with a lot of experience and training and George still felt he knew better.


  • #258
    A Shaved Duck?
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭A Shaved Duck?


    Lady Chatterton wrote: »
    I will say one thing for Hook, he isn't afraid to talk and to listen to the average Joe and Mary.

    He mentioned in an interview that he knew Trump was going to win because that was the feedback he was getting when he'd talk to regular Americans when during his visits to the States He'd talk to so called experts on his shows but then he'd ask the hotel cleaner or the waiter for their views.

    I think the problem with some journalists and academics is many of them tend to mix in very comfortable social circles and they all end up sharing the same opinions on the world. I feel that's why so many of them were convinced Clinton was going to win.


    George got lucky in his guess this time, he would have spoken to a handful of people on the minimum wage in his hotel and from this extensive research determined the outcome of the election.

    I travel a lot to oregon and seatlle with work and the people i generally spoke with said trump was a buffoon and didnt have a hope.

    When you consistently take the opposite view on something you are going to be right once in a blue moon..this does make George some sort of guru.


  • #259
    Floppybits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,021 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Did he just call someone who text the show a dick head for complaining about him talking about rugby?


  • #260
    Discodog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,014 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Floppybits wrote: »
    Did he just call someone who text the show a dick head for complaining about him talking about rugby?

    Yes followed by a half hearted apology


  • #261
    Vorenus400
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭Vorenus400


    Floppybits wrote: »
    Did he just call someone who text the show a dick head for complaining about him talking about rugby?

    Yep he did. He did apologise to anyone who was offended afterwards:rolleyes:

    Usually he reads out a text or tweet calling him names and then invokes free speech saying he is just giving an opinion or asking questions. good to know he has has double standards.

    I think its because Hook actually cares about rugby and the rest of his 'causes' are a show for the media. The problem is that he has cheapened himself, I now think of him as an anti vaxxer:mad:


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  • #262
    foxtrot101
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    Lady Chatterton wrote: »

    He mentioned in an interview that he knew Trump was going to win because that was the feedback he was getting when he'd talk to regular Americans when during his visits to the States He'd talk to so called experts on his shows but then he'd ask the hotel cleaner or the waiter for their views.

    Trumps own team was only giving him a 30% chance of winning when the counting began. George made a lucky guess in a two horse race and now he thinks he's an authority on all things Trump.


  • #263
    Mr Joe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭Mr Joe


    A Shaved Duck? wrote: »
    George got lucky in his guess this time, he would have spoken to a handful of people on the minimum wage in his hotel and from this extensive research determined the outcome of the election.

    I travel a lot to oregon and seatlle with work and the people i generally spoke with said trump was a buffoon and didnt have a hope.

    That is wide of the mark because Seattle and Oregon are well known as two of the most Liberal cities and states in the whole of the US. So while it is no suprise that is what people there said to you, that is in no way a representation of the United States as a whole.

    For instance in Seattle, Clinton crushed Trump by 72% to 22% so it stands to reason most people there wouldn't have been given him favourable remarks. I think George deserves praise for his predictions, partly due to the fact 99% of the Irish media including his own Newstalk colleagues are just sycophants and cheerleaders for the Democratic party and Hillary Clinton.


  • #264
    foxtrot101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭foxtrot101


    Mr Joe wrote: »
    That is wide of the mark because Seattle and Oregon are well known as two of the most Liberal cities and states in the whole of the US. So while it is no suprise that is what people there said to you, that is in no way a representation of the United States as a whole.

    For instance in Seattle, Clinton crushed Trump by 72% to 22% so it stands to reason most people there wouldn't have been given him favourable remarks. I think George deserves praise for his predictions, partly due to the fact 99% of the Irish media including his own Newstalk colleagues are just sycophants and cheerleaders for the Democratic party and Hillary Clinton.

    For well over a decade you couldn't find anyone more sycophantic about the Democratic party than George and he was Hillary's biggest cheerleader when she was up against Obama.

    Anyone who has listened to him play the "yellow dog" democrat to Michael Graham's arch-conservative for years could only conclude that his recent volt-face lacks credibility. But it does get George a bit of attention, something he is kind of partial to.


  • #265
    Mr Joe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭Mr Joe


    Lady Chatterton wrote: »
    I will say one thing for Hook, he isn't afraid to talk and to listen to the average Joe and Mary.

    He mentioned in an interview that he knew Trump was going to win because that was the feedback he was getting when he'd talk to regular Americans when during his visits to the States He'd talk to so called experts on his shows but then he'd ask the hotel cleaner or the waiter for their views.

    I think the problem with some journalists and academics is many of them tend to mix in very comfortable social circles and they all end up sharing the same opinions on the world. I feel that's why so many of them were convinced Clinton was going to win.

    I strongly agree with this. Steve Bannon, Trumps strategist summed your last point.

    "He later adds that the media is 'just a circle of people talking to themselves who have no f***ing idea of what's going on,'"

    Sums up my opinion of the mainstream and Irish media pretty well which is why I don't bother with it much. Always the same talking heads that generally have no real clue parroting the same rubbish. And how much of the media in Ireland does Denis O Brien own, he donated in the region of the $20-25 million dollars to the Clintons. It's no surprise most of his talking heads repeat the same barring George, and I'm sure George will be out the door as soon as feasible and replaced by another Chris O Donogue type.


  • #266
    Vorenus400
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    Mr Joe wrote: »
    And how much of the media in Ireland does Denis O Brien own, he donated in the region of the $20-25 million dollars to the Clintons. It's no surprise most of his talking heads repeat the same barring George, and I'm sure George will be out the door as soon as feasible and replaced by another Chris O Donogue type.

    Have you ever heard George criticise Denis OBrien? George ignores any news article criticising O Brien. Who do you think he was in Haiti with? George knows where his bread is buttered


  • #267
    Lady Chatterton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,585 ✭✭✭✭Lady Chatterton


    Vorenus400 wrote: »
    Have you ever heard George criticise Denis OBrien? George ignores any news article criticising O Brien. Who do you think he was in Haiti with? George knows where his bread is buttered
    In my view, Matt Cooper is one of the only broadcasters employed by Communicorp that has ever made serious attempts to report on Denis O'Brien related stories objectively. I remember when Katherine Murphy made her claims about the IBRC/Site Serve deal in the Dáil, Matt filleted O'Brien's spokesman at the time when he was a guest on the show. Surprise surprise, the interview never made the 'Very Last Word' podcast that week and it wasn't available on 'Listen Back' either.

    It's hard to blame journalists working for INM and Communicorp for keeping their heads down after witnessing where Sam Smyth's interest in the Moriarty Tribunal got him. O'Brien sued him in a personal capacity, and today, Smyth no longer writes for IMN and he lost his gig as presenter of the Today FM Sunday Show.

    The extent of Mr. O'Brien's ownership, control and influence over Irish media is the issue not the journalists who are trying to earn a living while working for him.


  • #268
    A Shaved Duck?
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭A Shaved Duck?


    Mr Joe wrote: »
    That is wide of the mark because Seattle and Oregon are well known as two of the most Liberal cities and states in the whole of the US. So while it is no suprise that is what people there said to you, that is in no way a representation of the United States as a whole.

    For instance in Seattle, Clinton crushed Trump by 72% to 22% so it stands to reason most people there wouldn't have been given him favourable remarks. I think George deserves praise for his predictions, partly due to the fact 99% of the Irish media including his own Newstalk colleagues are just sycophants and cheerleaders for the Democratic party and Hillary Clinton.

    Thats my point exactly if george was staying in a hotel in oregon he would have got his opinion from a different "man on the street"..and he could have come to a different conclusion based on his extensive "research" and would have been wrong.

    He continually takes the opposite stance on subjects to perpetuate his "grumpy old man" persona and gets it wrong a hell of a lot more than he is right. He will now lord his lucky guess over any guest that tries to debate the result with him... right before segwaying into some anecdote about the nuns in cork and rugby.


  • #269
    Pickpocket
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Pickpocket


    Birneybau wrote: »
    What about the webcams?

    I said quite low.


  • #270
    Birneybau
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,420 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Pickpocket wrote: »
    I said quite low.

    Was only kidding.


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  • #271
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    How does anyone listen listen to this for more than a few minutes? He's like the worst night in a pub.


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