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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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  • #1382
    .ak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    wonderfullife wrote: »
    https://boltossmma.wordpress.com/2016/11/19/until-the-next-day-i-die/

    Catch ya's later. Much love.

    Wow. Very powerful stuff. I know you've been told this before, but you are a rare talent in terms of writing. I'm very poor at reading articles, they often just don't hold my interest and feel forced. Your articles are the complete opposite, they're superb and keep my interest totally.

    Extremely brave of you also to discuss what you did - a lot of people would just bottle that up but fair play to you. That is brave.

    I hope you realize you have hope in your writing - it's something that you can happily devote the rest of your life too, and if you make enough noise who knows, it could be a genuine career path. You're already better than most sport journo's, and you already have the guile and guts to approach the people you wanted to talk to! 99.9% of this forum wouldn't have the balls to do that.

    Honestly think you could make a career from it, if you approach the right people.
    Who knows, I might even join SBG and learn jiujitsu and write all about it.

    Please, do. I can't recommend 'doing' enough, I watched rugby for years but nothing compares to playing it, being involved, working for a spot in the starting 15, making new friends and relationships along the way. It's a beautiful thing, people think MMA and Rugby and football are all physical sports, exercise for the body... couldn't disagree more. It's your brain and mental well being that's being trained. That's not just my opinion, but fact. Why do the most intelligent animals on this planet 'play'? It's no coincidence. Get in there and roll.


  • #1383
    Swashbuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    JohnMc1 wrote:
    So the "Its not a money fight" is the modern "He has no aura" Why does one get praised while the other got vilified?

    I didn't praise of vilify either but it's the reality of the ufc nowadays. It's the way it has gone. Not for the purists. Conor has definitely changed the game completely.


  • #1384
    darced
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  • #1385
    Swashbuckler
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    JohnMc1 wrote:
    Both are responsible. And both will deserve the inevitable backlash.

    My honest opinion is I'd prefer if he just left the 145 belt behind. I'm not interested in seeing him fight Max or Aldo again.


  • #1386
    JohnMc1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    My honest opinion is I'd prefer if he just left the 145 belt behind. I'm not interested in seeing him fight Max or Aldo again.

    Agreed. Its clear he has no intention of ever returning there. He's hanging onto it more for ego than anything else.


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  • #1387
    .ak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    It's in UFC's interest for him to hold the belts.

    People seem to get their panties in a bunch by UFC's 'interpretations' and Dana's lies... but as much as the sport inside the octagon is real, UFC is not. It's not a proper, legit sport. Why? Because it was born in an era of capitalism and self interest. If I'm the owner of UFC I'm going to go down the route of making money, and not what's morally correct, because I'm not bound to a sporting tradition because my sport is a new age sport.

    That's why McGregor got to fight for the 155 belt after the Diaz saga. That's why McGregor will probably get to keep both belts whilst wars wage for interim belts until next year. Why? Because that's what makes money. End of.


  • #1388
    JohnMc1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    .ak wrote: »
    It's in UFC's interest for him to hold the belts.

    People seem to get their panties in a bunch by UFC's 'interpretations' and Dana's lies... but as much as the sport inside the octagon is real, UFC is not. It's not a proper, legit sport. Why? Because it was born in an era of capitalism and self interest. If I'm the owner of UFC I'm going to go down the route of making money, and not what's morally correct, because I'm not bound to a sporting tradition because my sport is a new age sport.

    That's why McGregor got to fight for the 155 belt after the Diaz saga. That's why McGregor will probably get to keep both belts whilst wars wage for interim belts until next year. Why? Because that's what makes money. End of.

    In a nutshell. MMA is a real sport. UFC is a prowrestling organization.


  • #1389
    JohnMc1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    I didn't praise of vilify either but it's the reality of the ufc nowadays. It's the way it has gone. Not for the purists. Conor has definitely changed the game completely.

    Not saying you directly. I just noticed on other mma forums the same guys that trashed Rickson for the "he has aura" excuse to duck fighting Sakuraba and anyone else legit are the same ones that are praising Conor with "Its not a money fight" to duck defending his titles.


  • #1390
    weldoninhio
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    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    The reason is, his fights are big bucks. That's all. Nothing to do with hissy fits. That "hissy fit" led to one of the highest grossing ufc ppv events of all time.

    So screw everyone else?? There'll be fighters around long after him. Why would any 145lb fighter wanna stick around in the UFC when the division is held up, the "champ" refuses to fight there and the company refuses to strip him??? They're wasting their time.


  • #1391
    Dtp1979
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    wonderfullife wrote: »
    https://boltossmma.wordpress.com/2016/11/19/until-the-next-day-i-die/

    Catch ya's later. Much love.

    Best of luck with everything wonderfullife. Hope everything works out for you


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  • #1392
    how.gareth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭how.gareth


    wonderfullife wrote: »
    https://boltossmma.wordpress.com/2016/11/19/until-the-next-day-i-die/

    Catch ya's later. Much love.

    Fook me man hope ye find whatever it is ye need to keep ye goin, this place will miss your posts


  • #1393
    Swashbuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    weldoninhio wrote:
    So screw everyone else?? There'll be fighters around long after him. Why would any 145lb fighter wanna stick around in the UFC when the division is held up, the "champ" refuses to fight there and the company refuses to strip him??? They're wasting their time.

    I wasn't a fan of the second Diaz fight but I get it. I get why he did it and I get why he is getting special treatment . As for why would the fighters hang around, well it's simple really. To get paid. At the end of the day Aldo is interim champ. There's nothing stopping him defending that belt. It's not like the division can't book fights without McGregor.


  • #1394
    Swashbuckler
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    JohnMc1 wrote:
    Not saying you directly. I just noticed on other mma forums the same guys that trashed Rickson for the "he has aura" excuse to duck fighting Sakuraba and anyone else legit are the same ones that are praising Conor with "Its not a money fight" to duck defending his titles.

    I don't think he's ducking to be honest. He has made tonnes more money doing what he has done than if he had given Aldo an immediate rematch.


  • #1395
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    I wasn't a fan of the second Diaz fight but I get it. I get why he did it and I get why he is getting special treatment . As for why would the fighters hang around, well it's simple really. To get paid. At the end of the day Aldo is interim champ. There's nothing stopping him defending that belt. It's not like the division can't book fights without McGregor.

    How are they going to "get paid"?? Holding the belt gives you leverage come negotiation time, it's an achievement and I'm sure a source of huge pride to be number one in your division. They can fight alright, but what's their end goal?? There's no title to fight for, the interim means nothing.


  • #1396
    Easy Rod
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    Just sayin'...if someone organised it, I'd go to a Forum beers to have a chat with wonderfullife. Best of luck with everything man.


  • #1397
    JohnMc1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    I wasn't a fan of the second Diaz fight but I get it. I get why he did it and I get why he is getting special treatment . As for why would the fighters hang around, well it's simple really. To get paid. At the end of the day Aldo is interim champ. There's nothing stopping him defending that belt. It's not like the division can't book fights without McGregor.

    The Interim Championship is only defended when the actual Champion is out injured. Conor is not injured. He just refuses to defend his title. Why should he do Conor's job for him? He's still won't get his rematch with Conor. So why should he do the UFC and Conor favours? If demands a title fight at 145 he should look in Conor's direction first.


  • #1398
    JohnMc1
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    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    I don't think he's ducking to be honest. He has made tonnes more money doing what he has done than if he had given Aldo an immediate rematch.

    He's ducking alright. Just not in the traditional sense. He's not ducking a particular fighter but he is ducking fulfilling his obligations as champion.


  • #1399
    winston82
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭winston82


    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    I don't think he's ducking to be honest. He has made tonnes more money doing what he has done than if he had given Aldo an immediate rematch.

    He's ducking alright. Just not in the traditional sense. He's not ducking a particular fighter but he is ducking fulfilling his obligations as champion.
    Absolutely agree with this.
    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    I don't think he's ducking to be honest. He has made tonnes more money doing what he has done than if he had given Aldo an immediate rematch.

    He's ducking alright. Just not in the traditional sense. He's not ducking a particular fighter but he is ducking fulfilling his obligations as champion.
    Precisely.. how can a champion of 2 weight classes take this amount of time off. Absolutely ridiculous. If he wasn't a champion then fine but it's his duty to defend, which doesn't seem to be a priority. Is this the longest a non-injured, active champion has gone without defending a belt in recent UFC history?


  • #1400
    Swashbuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    Where's Gamebred when you need him. Haha. Too many posts to respond to. In my view I'd rather he dropped the belt. I don't agree with a champ being active outside his division indefinitely. It doesn't upset me though. Conor has done things in MMA that may not ever be done again. At least it's exciting. I'm not particularly upset for Aldo either.


  • #1401
    Eatmore
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    McGregor decimated Aldo within 13 seconds after spending 12 months campaigning for the fight. Aldo doesn't have the chin to withstand McGregor. Not sure why people want to see it again and the PPV wouldn't sell well.


    McGregor has been very clear about his motives. He said he is going to be a simultaneous 2 weight champion, that he is here for big money and big fights.


    He has delivered on all his promises. I disagree with all this pontificating about McGregor not being a true champion.

    I hope he spends the next few months doing cardio and putting on some weight and takes on Woodley on his return.


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  • #1402
    .ak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    In a nutshell. MMA is a real sport. UFC is a prowrestling organization.

    Essentially. What happens in the octagon is real though, so they have a winning formula right now.

    All the power to them. We might not like it as sports 'purists', but it's a new age now.


  • #1403
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Eatmore wrote: »
    McGregor decimated Aldo within 13 seconds after spending 12 months campaigning for the fight. Aldo doesn't have the chin to withstand McGregor. Not sure why people want to see it again and the PPV wouldn't sell well.


    McGregor has been very clear about his motives. He said he is going to be a simultaneous 2 weight champion, that he is here for big money and big fights.


    He has delivered on all his promises. I disagree with all this pontificating about McGregor not being a true champion.

    I hope he spends the next few months doing cardio and putting on some weight and takes on Woodley on his return.

    McGregor can fight whoever he wants. But he can have no complaints when he's stripped of the 145 belt.


  • #1404
    Swashbuckler
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    weldoninhio wrote:
    McGregor can fight whoever he wants. But he can have no complaints when he's stripped of the 145 belt.

    Its very possible he won't be stripped


  • #1405
    sonofenoch
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    Eatmore wrote: »
    McGregor decimated Aldo within 13 seconds after spending 12 months campaigning for the fight. Aldo doesn't have the chin to withstand McGregor. Not sure why people want to see it again and the PPV wouldn't sell well.


    McGregor has been very clear about his motives. He said he is going to be a simultaneous 2 weight champion, that he is here for big money and big fights.


    He has delivered on all his promises. I disagree with all this pontificating about McGregor not being a true champion.

    I hope he spends the next few months doing cardio and putting on some weight and takes on Woodley on his return.

    ****em.....don't respond to them and their agenda's .......fuk all to say last week when he demolished the man they no doubt had as winning......less than a week later crying over a guy who's fought twice in 2 years......'hand him the belt automatically' ....yeah he deserves it


  • #1406
    JohnMc1
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    Eatmore wrote: »
    McGregor decimated Aldo within 13 seconds after spending 12 months campaigning for the fight. Aldo doesn't have the chin to withstand McGregor. Not sure why people want to see it again and the PPV wouldn't sell well.

    That is not a valid reason to deny Aldo his rematch. He was undefeated for over 10 years. Undefeated in 18 fights. 10 of those being title fights. He's more than earned a rematch.


    He has delivered on all his promises. I disagree with all this pontificating about McGregor not being a true champion.

    Conor is a Paper Champ until he actually defends them.


  • #1407
    Swashbuckler
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    JohnMc1 wrote:
    Conor is a Paper Champ until he actually defends them.

    No no nooooooo


  • #1408
    JohnMc1
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    .ak wrote: »
    Essentially. What happens in the octagon is real though, so they have a winning formula right now.

    All the power to them. We might not like it as sports 'purists', but it's a new age now.

    This " new age" isn't all that new. Pro Wrestling started out legit until promoters realized they could make more money by staging the fights. Fans shouldn't be celebrating the "big money" era just yet. There are too many parallels between MMA and Pro wrestling to ignore.


  • #1409
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    ****em.....don't respond to them and their agenda's .......fuk all to say last week when he demolished the man they no doubt had as winning......less than a week later crying over a guy who's fought twice in 2 years......'hand him the belt automatically' ....yeah he deserves it

    You can't be the champion of a division you refuse to fight in. It's that simple.


  • #1410
    xtal191
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    wonderfullife wrote: »
    https://boltossmma.wordpress.com/2016/11/19/until-the-next-day-i-die/

    Catch ya's later. Much love.

    Amazing work, that's a talent you have there.

    You know you've got friends on the mma forum!


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  • #1411
    JohnMc1
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    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    No no nooooooo

    Yes he is. Temper Tantrums won't change the reality of the situation. He'll truly be a Paper Champion if Aldo actually has to defend the Interim title. Many fans will start seeing Aldo as the true Champ while Conor is the one with the phony belt.


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