Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

Gamebred · 18-11-2016 01:54AM

Lukker- wrote: »

I think if you include prelims UFC 205 won't be beat on the strength of the overall card but 189 will probably go down as one of the most entertaining of all time.

Less can be more sometimes, great fights I find get lost in the big shows you dont give them full attention or maybe they'd be better served being 5 rd main events, as with 205 you get 2 25 minute decisions on the co mains it get late and interest wains natually come 6am , 199 had a good mix probably my favorite of the year.

Lukker- · 18-11-2016 01:59AM

Gamebred wrote: »

Less can be more sometimes, great fights I find get lost in the big shows you dont give them full attention or maybe they'd be better served being 5 rd main events, as with 205 you get 2 25 minute decisions on the co mains it get late and interest wains natually come 6am , 199 had a good mix probably my favorite of the year.

Speak for yourself Gamebred, I'm sprinting at 6 am

Mellor · 18-11-2016 02:54AM

wonderfullife wrote: »

Why are you opposed to Max v Aldo and Khabib v Ferguson?

Are you able to make a solid case for BOTH Khabib and Tony? Yes. So let them fight and then there is a clear contender.

Sure they could do that. But there's no they they have to do it to settle things.
This idea that a challenger should dispatch all contenders is nonsense. We usually hear it as a criticism of Conor's title run. It was nonsense there too.
If every title challenger had to clear all others contenders, we'd almost never be able to set up a undisputable match up.

It would be a lot easier if Khabib vrs Ferguson wet ahead as planned. In that the title picture would be clearer. But that's what happens.

wonderfullife wrote: »

The metrics on UFC 205 are really weird. It broke the gate record, the attendance record, the social media impressions record, it broke the Embedded series record, the highest attended weigh-in record, it had a 1.8m avg viewership for the prelims etc (all higher numbers than UFC 202). So i'd find it weird for the PPV number to come in below 202.

The gate is a function of the ticket prices, not the interest. The attendance is down to the venue, and it wasn't the record (that's Melbourne).

The numbers sneaked about 202. So the final total could be above 1.65m
I felt 1.8m was a big ask. 2m is simply a huge number.

You have to consider that with online PPVs, and faster internet for illegal streams. That 1.6m ppvs now, is much much bigger than 1.6m PPVs for UFC 100

Lukker- · 18-11-2016 02:57AM

He's approaching his final form
http://imgur.com/a/8AhrX

wonderfullife · 18-11-2016 04:52AM

Mellor wrote: »

This idea that a challenger should dispatch all contenders is nonsense. We usually hear it as a criticism of Conor's title run. It was nonsense there too.
If every title challenger had to clear all others contenders, we'd almost never be able to set up a undisputable match up.

It would be a lot easier if Khabib vrs Ferguson wet ahead as planned. In that the title picture would be clearer. But that's what happens.

One thing in this whole Khabib or Tony debate that a lot of people seem to be glossing over is this:

Tony Ferguson is managed by Audie Attar of Paradigm. Coincidentally, so is Conor.

Agents/managers generally receive between 15-20% of their fighters pay. It can vary but Myles Jury (UFC Featherweight) did a pretty good breakdown of a typical fighters expenses.

Let's assume Conor pays 15%. Paradigm would make $515,000 from his reported disclosed purse of $3,500,000 and whatever way they've structured the PPV split.

If Conor faces Khabib, Paradigms share stays the same.

If Conor faces Ferguson, they'll get 15/20% of the $2.5 million he's likely to make after PPV cut.

There's plenty of logical reasons for them to WANT that.

I'm sure Conor does whatever the hell he wants and doesn't pay much attention to Audie....... - just food for thought. If i was his manager, I'd certainly prefer he faces a fellow Paradigm client who likes to stand and bang rather than a Russian lunatic who wrestles bears lol.

Mellor · 18-11-2016 06:35AM

I'd be very surprised in Conor was giving up a flat percentage of his gross like that.
He could definitely insist on a sliding scale or a even a payment cap. Per fight.

How come I can think of liars of wats to save other people money. But can't use this info to put $$ in my bank account.

wonderfullife · 18-11-2016 06:40AM

Well Myles Jury was only making $10,000/$10,000 when he wrote the article but he was explaining if he won he had to give his manager $3,000. Probably works a lot differently at the top level.

As i said, I'm sure the only person deciding who he fights next is Conor himself.....but If i was Tony Ferguson I'd be putting in a few nice text messages to Audie to see if he can swing that fight. Win-win for Paradigm if they make that fight. Win-win for the fans too. Ferguson has an even more eclectic style than Conor and is so easily hit. It'd be fun seeing what set-ups Conor would use to try land the left.

JohnSBG · 18-11-2016 06:42AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Effects wrote: »

He fought his way up to beat the Featherweight Champion.
RDA pulled out while Conor attempted to beat the Lightweight Champion. He was beaten by the replacement, Diaz, then just went back to prove he could beat Diaz.
Then he defeated Alvarez, the champion.

So Conor is cherry picking the fights by beating the guys who hold the belts? Who would you rather he fought? Fighters that aren't top of their division?

How many fighters get a title fight in their first ever fight in a new division?? How many fit and able fighters get to go on a sojourn through another division while holding up the division they hold the belt in??

He was told after Diaz 2 that he had to fight Aldo, they even had an interim fight in that division to see if Aldo was the No1 contender, but he went for the money fight. UFC is more of a circus than a competition. Ferguson is No 1 contender, Khabib is the only undefeated fighter in the division, but JK said that they'd prefer the trilogy fight with Diaz. It's "sports entertainment", being in the money and don't worry about who the number one contender is.

JK didn't say "they'd". I stressed it was just my opinion. It's an important distinction that social media has chosen to ignore.

Mellor · 18-11-2016 07:03AM

JohnSBG wrote: »

JK didn't say "they'd". I stressed it was just my opinion. It's an important distinction that social media has chosen to ignore.

This is the days of social-tabloidism John. You aren't allowed your own opinions. It'll always become "they said", "His team want" etc

wonderfullife · 18-11-2016 07:09AM

JohnSBG wrote: »

JK didn't say "they'd". I stressed it was just my opinion. It's an important distinction that social media has chosen to ignore.

It's sad that you even have to stress "This is just my opinion" when answering a question that asked for your opinion lol.

TimRiggins · 18-11-2016 08:42AM

JohnSBG wrote: »

JK didn't say "they'd". I stressed it was just my opinion. It's an important distinction that social media has chosen to ignore.

And you could not have stressed it more but they still took it out of context! I agreed with you too, I thought Diaz did turn a corner in the MJ fight. Looked in the best shape of his career. Shame he's reluctant to taking another fight to prove it though.

Subcomandante Marcos · 18-11-2016 10:26AM

JohnSBG wrote: »

JK didn't say "they'd". I stressed it was just my opinion. It's an important distinction that social media has chosen to ignore.

The funny thing is you were barely out of the studio and SB Nation sites were running the "mcgregor's camp" and "his team" angle on your opinion which you stressed was something you hadn't even talked to Conor about yet.

That must be annoying.

Gamebred · 18-11-2016 12:13PM

Ha John absolutely burying a McGregor denier for making rubbish up absolute scenes,

@JK Any chance Gunni headlining London in March? time line suit his injury recovery?

Outlaw Pete · 18-11-2016 01:25PM

Rainman16 wrote: »

..there is no way he can beat Floyd Mayweather under boxing rules.

He can and he will.

Conor's boxing is devastating enough when he is punching while also being mindful and ready to defend any attempt to kick, knee or grapple him. With just boxing to focus on then it is more than reasonable to assume that his boxing skills would be even greater than what we have witnessed them to be in mma fights.

Quite frankly I think he'd take Floyd's head clean off.

https://twitter.com/mma_gifs_/status/799262495433261056

Gamebred · 18-11-2016 01:30PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

He can and he will.

Conor's boxing is devastating enough when he is punching while also being mindful and ready to defend any attempt to kick, knee or grapple him. With just boxing to focus on then it is more than reasonable to assume that his boxing skills would be even greater than what we have witnessed them to be in mma fights.

Quite frankly I think he'd take Floyd's head clean off.

https://twitter.com/mma_gifs_/status/799262495433261056

Thanks for the laugh you've made my Friday.

Saipanne · 18-11-2016 01:34PM

I think Floyd would beat him, but I think McGregor would surprise people, all the same.

Gamebred · 18-11-2016 01:36PM

He wouldnt win an All Ireland amatuer title never mind beat the greatest fighter of all time lads its too early for the bottle put it down.

Saipanne · 18-11-2016 01:40PM

Gamebred wrote: »

He wouldnt win an All Ireland amatuer title never mind beat the greatest fighter of all time lads its too early for the bottle put it down.

Calm down, pet. It's only midday. We're nearly at the weekend.

Outlaw Pete · 18-11-2016 01:56PM

Gamebred wrote: »

He wouldnt win an All Ireland amatuer title never mind beat the greatest fighter of all time lads its too early for the bottle put it down.

Was the greatest fighter of all time... perhaps.

Now he's a just a 40-year-old midget (well, he was always a midget) who can only knock people out with sucker punches.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieJPRhlkVh4

xtal191 · 18-11-2016 01:59PM

McGregor wouldn't be able to touch Floyd

Gamebred · 18-11-2016 02:03PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Was the greatest fighter of all time... perhaps.

Now he's a just a 40-year-old midget (well, he was always a midget) who can only knock people out with sucker punches.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieJPRhlkVh4

Ha is that you Skip Bayless?

I seen him give Manny Pacquoi a boxing seminar there about a year ago p4p one of the greatest ever its not even a debate, Conor couldnt beat Michael Conlon never mind Floyd Mayweather, send him over to the high performance team and they'd laugh at McGregor's boxing skills, 2 completely different sports mma boxing to actual boxing I hope your fishing.

ASOT · 18-11-2016 02:11PM

I love when people give out about the Ortiz ko, if he wasnt throwing headbuts it wouldnt have happened.

Also on topic theres more chance of Ali coming back from the dead and fighting Jon Jones than there is McGregor beating Mayweather in a boxing match.

GerryDerpy · 18-11-2016 02:15PM

Why should it be a boxing match? Allow kicks and Floyd sleeps within 3 secs.

darced · 18-11-2016 02:16PM

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Kirby · 18-11-2016 02:16PM

ASOT wrote: »

I love when people give out about the Ortiz ko, if he wasnt throwing headbuts it wouldnt have happened.

He was apologizing for the headbutt when Floyd sucker punched him. It was despicable and he got rightly booed for it....and he was also called out in the post fight interview for it. Its why he blew a gasket..... He knew what he had done was awful and it made him lose his cool.

Floyd may have made Manny look awful...he may be the best defensive fighter we have ever seen....but that doesn't change what he did against Ortiz. It was pathetic.

Outlaw Pete · 18-11-2016 02:17PM

Gamebred wrote: »

Ha is that you Skip Bayless

Skip's no fool.

send him over to the high performance team and they'd laugh at McGregor's boxing skills, 2 completely different sports mma boxing to actual boxing I hope your fishing.

You're underestimating Conor's punching power at that weight and his boxing skills also.

Here's some comments John (from SBG :P) made just before the Aldo fight:

A southpaw’s best weapon is the straight left. For whatever reason, nobody hits harder than Conor. I’ve got heavyweights in my gym and Conor can punch harder.

Contrary to popular belief, it tends to be tall, lanky, rangy fighters who punch the hardest. The proper technique means a punch comes from your back foot, driving through the leg and hip before power is generated by whipping through the shoulder.

Now I'm not saying that supports my assertion that Conor would beat 40-year-old Floyd, but it does suggest that you are underestimating McG's boxing skills.

DuffleBag · 18-11-2016 02:21PM

Why bother even discuss it. It's an opinion vs opinion. People saying "no way conor would beat Floyd".. or "mcgregor will knock floyd out" is ****e talk. Until they fight, or if they fight, none of ye will know.

Like whining bitches going at each other trying to point out why he will or wont. Keep the bull**** for twitter.

darced · 18-11-2016 02:24PM

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johnpatrick81 · 18-11-2016 02:24PM

Footage of the Mayweather McGregor Mega Mash has leaked;

Rainman16 · 18-11-2016 02:25PM

Tilikum wrote: »

He'd get battered but if I was him and I was offered €100m (which he won't be) I'd definitely take the hiding.

I have to agree. 100mil and Conor would say fck the UFC, and retire a very wealthy man.

Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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