Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

Outlaw Pete

ASOT wrote: »

I love when people give out about the Ortiz ko, if he wasnt throwing headbuts it wouldnt have happened.

I'm not necessarily giving out about what Floyd did (that's a separate issue) I'm just pointing out that that in almost ten years that's the only KO or even a TKO that he has had (Ricky Hatton was in 2007 was the last one) and if he was was deserving of his reputation as the GOAT then that would not be the case.

Gamebred

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

I'm not necessarily giving out about what Floyd did (that's a separate issue) I'm just pointing out that that in almost ten years that's the only KO or even a TKO that he has had (Ricky Hatton in 2007 was the last one) and if he was as good as reputation is then that would not be the case.

When your a defending champion fighting the best of the best why does he need to be ko'ing people? have you watched him fight ever honestly or did you do a quick wiki check of his record?

darced

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wonderfullife

ASOT wrote: »

I love when people give out about the Ortiz ko, if he wasnt throwing headbuts it wouldnt have happened.

Also on topic theres more chance of Ali coming back from the dead and fighting Jon Jones than there is McGregor beating Mayweather in a boxing match.

Been a while since i seen it but didn't Ortiz go to touch his glove and Floyd just KO'd him instead?

It's bad etiquette at the worst.

Rainman16

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

He can and he will.

Conor's boxing is devastating enough when he is punching while also being mindful and ready to defend any attempt to kick, knee or grapple him. With just boxing to focus on then it is more than reasonable to assume that his boxing skills would be even greater than what we have witnessed them to be in mma fights.

Quite frankly I think he'd take Floyd's head clean off.

No chance mate. Floyd is the ultimate defensive fighter, Conor would be lucky to land clean at all in 12 round of boxing. The longer the fight went on the more it would play into Floyds hands. Conor would be embarrassed, seriously anyone who thinks it would be even close, really must know very little about boxing.

Outlaw Pete

Rainman16 wrote: »

I have to agree. 100mil and Conor would say fck the UFC, and retire a very wealthy man.

Well, if he does fight Mayweather, it will most likely involve the UFC at some level. Or at least that is what Dana's comments have suggested a few times when broached on the subject and his reply has pretty much always been that if Floyd wants to fight Conor, then he needs to call the UFC.

Interestingly, last week Dana made the following comments about the possible fight:

McGregor’s future after his fight with Alvarez is unclear, White said, but he shared an interesting story about his dinner on the town last night, where he ran into good friend of Floyd Mayweather and famed rapper 50 Cent.

“50 cent is in the other room. He and I start talking last night, and he’s like, ‘What’s up with your boy? Is he going to fight Floyd?’ I’m like my boy, who Conor? And he’s like yeah. I’m like Floyd’s never going to take that. He’s like ‘Dana, Floyd wants that fight. Floyd will take that fight.’ I said I’ll tell you what, you tell Floyd to call me, and if he’s serious about this, give me a call,” White said. “So he walked out and got on the phone and called Floyd, and he got on the phone with him when he was leaving, so I haven’t heard anything from either one of them today, but you know I don’t know how that negotiation goes.

“But I’ve been saying it all along, look at how long it took for Pacquiao-Mayweather to happen. You know what I mean? And they’re in the same sport.”

As for how a bout could take place between Mayweather and McGregor, with two different sporting rules, White wasn’t exactly sure.

“It would be completely unfair to do grappling or go to the ground or do any of that stuff, it makes no sense for Floyd. Plus, we could start at kicks, punches and elbows,” White said. “We can’t do straight boxing or we can’t do straight MMA. Or Joe Rogan said let him box him and fight him in MMA.”

White admitted that getting asked about the idea a possible Mayweather vs. McGregor bout once drove him crazy.

“This question use to drive me crazy. I would hate when people would ask me about Floyd and Conor, and then last night that happened. I don’t know. So we will see, I don’t know,” White said.

Source.

Subcomandante Marcos

Conor got tuned up by Chris Van Heerden.

Floyd would toy with him.

wonderfullife

Rainman16 wrote: »

No chance mate. Floyd is the ultimate defensive fighter, Conor would be lucky to land clean at all in 12 round of boxing. The longer the fight went on the more it would play into Floyds hands. Conor would be embarrassed, seriously anyone who thinks it would be even close, really must know very little about boxing.

Logic here seems to be: Very few professional boxers have given Floyd a hard fight or landed cleanly, so Conor has no hope whatsoever.

That's (probably) true.

But I don't think it'd be a snooze-fest either. If Floyd danced his way around Conor for 12 rounds he'd be accused of being a chicken. So I think there'd be spells in the pocket - which almost immediately means it'd be more exciting that May-Pac.

everlast75

Completely agree that Floyd would unfortunately win.

As an aside, is there anything to discuss in terms of the gloves. Boxing gloves are a lot more padded. If the fight was MMA gloves, would that have even a slight effect?

Gamebred

wonderfullife wrote: »

Logic here seems to be: Very few professional boxers have given Floyd a hard fight or landed cleanly, so Conor has no hope whatsoever.

That's (probably) true.

But I don't think it'd be a snooze-fest either. If Floyd danced his way around Conor for 12 rounds he'd be accused of being a chicken. So I think there'd be spells in the pocket - which almost immediately means it'd be more exciting that May-Pac.

Do you think Floyd cares what the fans think about him? they've called him a chicken for a decade.

darced

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Lukker-

I think straight boxing with 4 oz gloves would level the playing field. It's never gonna happen, Floyd won't give an inch in something that removes his advantage.

weldoninhio

Gamebred wrote: »

Ha John absolutely burying a McGregor denier for making rubbish up absolute scenes,


@JK Any chance Gunni headlining London in March? time line suit his injury recovery?

If you'd read the subsequent comments, you'd see that was how it was reported. Apologies JK for misconstruing it.

Also, McGregor-denier?? FFS hahaha. That's the level I'm dealing with.

Gamebred

Also the reason on top of Floyd not ko'ing his opponents is his hands are like brittle constantly breaking, he would butcher Conor's face lads if you think otherwise I suggest you go and educate yourself on the greatness of Mayweather.

I like this thread but to be honest, anyone even trying to make a case for these two fighting needs to read more about both sports. Never the twain shall meet.
Conor is a good night in the national stadium, once 12-14Oz gloves are sewn on, AT BEST!

come down to earth folks, leave this shyte talk to the yanks and money makers!
its detrimental to the health of this thread

MagicIRL

I love watching Conor fight. I think he's brilliant. Superb mixed martial artist. Shown it time and time again from Cage Warriors right up to PPV UFC events.

Knocking boys out in MMA does not transition to pure Boxing. This is Floyd Mayweather yous are talking about. He's 49-0 in Boxing for a reason.

If Conor fights him, and makes a bucket load of money, then all the power to him. I don't see him winning a boxing match. It would be like putting Ronaldo/Messi into a GAA match.

Swashbuckler

No interest in seeing him fight Mayweather. All the Mayweather talk on here and in the media does my nut in.

GerryDerpy

Well to Conor's credit, he has the (big Irish) balls to give Mayweather a boxing match.

I bet Mayweather knows he couldn't get into an Octagon with Conor and survive the first attack.

Outlaw Pete

Lukker- wrote: »

I think straight boxing with 4 oz gloves would level the playing field. It's never gonna happen, Floyd won't give an inch in something that removes his advantage.

You never know. Floyd is on record saying he tried to make the fight happen but that it never worked out and so maybe there was some aspect to the rules, or glove size that was disagreed upon. Who knows. He could have been lying of course but I don't see why he would do that. I see the fight happening for sure, maybe towards the very end of next year in MSG.

darced wrote: »

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Some nice boxing, and dancing, but it was nothing special, didn't one of the judges call a draw. I don't think there is any doubt he's a great defensive boxer but his opponents haven't exactly been contenders for GOAT themselves and so yeah I absolutely am questioning his 'greatness' but not just him, I question his generation too, as with regards to the best P4P, none of them have ever been fit to be spoken of in the same breath as Sugar Ray Robinson, Joe Louis etc.

In fact, no way would he even have beaten a younger Pacquiao, not too mention the greats within his weight divisions back in the 70's and 80's. Floyd simply has been blessed with the era he was born in, in that his boring style has been able to see him saunter to the top without him ever being a genuine contender for the GOAT.

ianob7

GerryDerpy wrote:

I bet Mayweather knows he couldn't get into an Octagon with Conor and survive the first attack.

Of course he gets destroyed!! He's never grappled, kickboxed, wrestled or any of the other mma disciplines bar boxing.. Why can't people get this very simple aspect into their heads!!
Also Mcgregor wouldn't touch Floyd in a boxing match! If the best boxers in the world can't hit him how could you expect an mma fighter with excellent boxing (imo) to beat him..

The mind boggles

wonderfullife

MagicIRL wrote: »

Knocking boys out in MMA does not transition to pure Boxing. This is Floyd Mayweather yous are talking about. He's 49-0 in Boxing for a reason.

If Conor fights him, and makes a bucket load of money, then all the power to him. I don't see him winning a boxing match. It would be like putting Ronaldo/Messi into a GAA match.

I'd def watch Ronaldo playing GAA.

I guess that's the crux of the issue - regardless of who wins or loses, the thing would do ridiculous numbers on PPV.

I think the fight happens in 2017. WME/IMG are all about cross-promotion and fluid content and, most importantly, taking risks. Ari Emmanuel is one of the biggest risk takers out there. Conor likes to take risks. They all like money. Co-promoting a boxing fight against Floyd would make them a fortune.

Sure we'll see. Wouldn't be surprised.

dashoonage

Khabib is going to teach Floyd to wrestle.

Outlaw Pete

MagicIRL wrote: »

It would be like putting Ronaldo/Messi into a GAA match.

He'd be grand :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYVu2MHMSBs

Rory28

ianob7 wrote: »

Of course he gets destroyed!! He's never grappled, kickboxed, wrestled or any of the other mma disciplines bar boxing.. Why can't people get this very simple aspect into their heads!!
Also Mcgregor wouldn't touch Floyd in a boxing match! If the best boxers in the world can't hit him how could you expect an mma fighter with excellent boxing (imo) to beat him..

The mind boggles

Conor should definitely lose a boxing match against Floyd but Floyd is a 40 year old man. That has to be taken in to account aswell.

Hopefully the fight never happens because it would suck. I want to see him fight Khabib next or give Aldo a rematch or go for belt number 3 against Woodley/Thompson.

GerryDerpy

ianob7 wrote: »

Of course he gets destroyed!! He's never grappled, kickboxed, wrestled or any of the other mma disciplines bar boxing.. Why can't people get this very simple aspect into their heads!!
Also Mcgregor wouldn't touch Floyd in a boxing match! If the best boxers in the world can't hit him how could you expect an mma fighter with excellent boxing (imo) to beat him..

The mind boggles

Sorry bud I get it. I was pointing it out as it is a testament to McGregor that having a boxing match is even a remote consideration. Whereas Mayweather is not on that level.

Gamebred

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Some nice boxing, and dancing, but it was nothing special, didn't one of the judges call a draw. I don't think there is any doubt he's a great defensive boxer but his opponents haven't exactly been contenders for GOAT themselves and so yeah I absolutely am questioning his 'greatness' but not just him, I question his generation too, as with regards to the best P4P, none of them have ever been fit to be spoken of in the same breath as Sugar Ray Robinson, Joe Louis etc.

In fact, no way would he even have beaten a younger Pacquiao, not too mention the greats within his weight divisions back in the 70's and 80's. Floyd simply has been blessed with the era he was born in, in that his boring style has been able to see him saunter to the top without him ever being a genuine contender for the GOAT.

Questioning his opponents now pmsl all a gang of bums alright


Cotto
Maidana x2
Oscar Del la Hoya
Hatton
Pacquiao
Mosley
Judah
Canelo
Marquez
Gatti
Castillo x2
Corrales

Killergreene

Conor to be in artem corner tomorrow. The champ cornering his punch bag!

dilapidating

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Some nice boxing, and dancing, but it was nothing special, didn't one of the judges call a draw. I don't think there is any doubt he's a great defensive boxer but his opponents haven't exactly been contenders for GOAT themselves and so yeah I absolutely am questioning his 'greatness' but not just him, I question his generation too, as with regards to the best P4P, none of them have ever been fit to be spoken of in the same breath as Sugar Ray Robinson, Joe Louis etc.

In fact, no way would he even have beaten a younger Pacquiao, not too mention the greats within his weight divisions back in the 70's and 80's. Floyd simply has been blessed with the era he was born in, in that his boring style has been able to see him saunter to the top without him ever being a genuine contender for the GOAT.

So now it's his generation's fault.:rolleyes:

ianob7

GerryDerpy wrote:

Sorry bud I get it. I was pointing it out as it is a testament to McGregor that having a boxing match is even a remote consideration. Whereas Mayweather is not on that level.

Didn't mean to be snarky dude!! Easy for Mcgregor to challenge Floyd cause he boxes within his sport of MMA. Floyd can't go to Mcgregors Sport cause he only boxes. So not really a testament as you stated

wonderfullife

Killergreene wrote: »

Conor to be in artem corner tomorrow. The champ cornering his punch bag!

Very easy to slate Artem for his pro-record but he's put in countless hours sparring over the years helping Conor improve. If the above is true, it's great to see Conor in the trenches with him.