Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

Mean Laqueefa wrote: »

its cool hoop i love ya, its just its used a fact all the time by people when we know its untrue. They are treated like employees when needed and when needed treated as contractors.

Suppose they can do that when the only one they pay well is Conor or his oppenent, keep the cheedar for the lawsuits and buy some nfl teams

I was under the impression that they are enployees in all but the work title and employee benefits. Win win for ufc. Not good for fighters

finglashoop wrote: »

I was under the impression that they are enployees in all but the work title and employee benefits. Win win for ufc. Not good for fighters

Sound like sports direct ! truthfully ask yourself and i know you will already agree its a sham Miesa gets 88K disclosed and its not unfair Conor gets 3.5 they took away ''some'' fighters other avenues for revenue so are that a contarctor issue or a employee ? cause an employee can join a union and dispute.

Conor is changing the game and ****ing hell id deal with bring back the pain if i know Miesha is getting an extra 200K for allowing sponsors and getting rightfully paid but Conor has othe avenues to make cash and i honestly believe everyone is emulating him now to try and make money. Id invest in a union behind Conor as he has leverage and i dont think Dana gives a **** anymore and he knows he is bolloxed if he even trys mess with conor.

If every fighter was still allowed individual sponsors at this moment in time, who make the best deal ?

good point but to me and speaking in general.
Wealth is you have a load of money invested making you money and this money alone(money from investment) makes you rich.
Rich is having a load of money but that money does not necessarily generate more money.

It's a bit of a chicken and egg thing maybe. Or maybe someone can explain better. On a side note, would be interested to know where mcgregor is getting his advice? Does he have good advisers or is it all him if he was saying this back in 2014? That was before he fought Brandao.
ps. sometimes love the diversity of this thread the way it goes of on tangents

wonderfullife wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/taoiseach-enda-kenny-rejects-suggestions-he-is-not-a-conor-mcgregor-fan-after-failure-to-congratulate-him-35218806.html

The Taoiseach has defended himself as a true fan of Conor McGregor in the wake of accusations that he failed to tweet congratulations after his win. His spokesman sent the Indo a photo of himself with Dee and Conor earlier this year, claiming and implying they got on famously well together.

Just another thing in a list of bizarre and surreal things. This time 4 years ago he was prepping for Buchinger in the Helix with less than 3,000 followers on Twitter. Now the leader of our country is called out for failing to congratulate him alongside his 3 million followers.

Mad times. It'd almost be similar to someone on Boards getting a shoutout on the world famous MMA Hour with the legendary Ariel Helwani presenting and it being available on Youtube to watch 734 times daily.

Wonder if we'll ever find out who this wonderlife is?

wonderfullife wrote: »

You're one of the lucky ones who was there, I'd imagine it was one of the best nights of your life?

Absolutely. I honestly feel blessed to have attended both the Aldo fight and the Alvarez fights. Just special nights that I'll honestly take with me for the rest of my life. Kinda funny how it doesn't really sink in till you're leaving MSG or on the Subway home.

Loved the change of walkout tune too. Wasn't a fan till I heard the lyrics "I get it, I get it, I get, I run New York!" Class.

Depp wrote: »

the walkout couldnt have been any more perfect! I can only imagine what it was like live!

His walkouts are always the best. By far and away the best in the UFC. When he walks to the center of the cage when his name being read is class too. Imagine how small Alvarez or whoever feels when he's there staring at you, hands out wide and the whole arena going nuts for him!

wonderfullife wrote: »

So, I know people dismiss the "Amateur Psychology" out of hand on here. I put together a 30 second clip comparing the RDA and McGregor fights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ylol1AL24M

It's something to behold.

Eddie's eyes never once wavered from RDA. He was locked on to RDA before Herb Dean called them in, locked on to him during the instructions, and never took his eyes off him after they separated.

Against Conor, he looked at the ground 3 times before John McCarthy called them in. As soon as he locked eyes on Conor, he immediately looked away to John McCarthy. When they separated the first thing he did was look at the ground again.

Whether it's the mental warfare pre-fight or the enormity of the occasion or just Conor flashing that enormous wingspan during his introduction....... fighters tend to react in ways they wouldn't react in any other fight.

That's a very real thing. The fight against Conor begins the minute they sign the contract. That's a unique thing to even the most-seasoned of competitors like Eddie.

Yeah at the end of the day these fighters are human and while some like Diaz will care nothing for that sort of stuff I'd imagine you just feel completely on your own going against him. Eddie is avoiding eye contact with Conor clearly but you'd imagine after a while to settle in he'd be fine in the fight. Conor doesn't allow that though. As he said himself to Megan Olivi, it doesn't take him long. To think that he dropped Alvarez 5 times in 8 minutes is just remarkable.

wonderfullife wrote: »

It's not just the 20,000 fans screaming for Conor and boo'ing Eddie (As big as that is to contend with).

They all have to face an unusual situation in the build up to the fight.

Eddie Alvarez had just over 30,000 Twitter followers when he signed to fight Conor. I'm gonna suggest nearly 99% of those were his own fans and people who admired him.

He now has 60,000 followers. And for the past 7 weeks, he's had to adjust from being shown love every day on social media to being abused from a height. Every post he has made over the past 2 months, the comments are all roughly the same. "You'll do fookin nuttin shut your mouth"....."Lord Conor is going to decapitate you".....

He made one beautiful post a week ago. A picture of his 4 kids together wearing "Underground King" t-shirts. And the comments section are all "You're gonna get mauled"..."you better make sure those kids aren't watching their daddy getting KO'd" etc.

It's a complete different kettle of fish fighting Conor and so many of the intangibles are impossible to prepare for. You have to experience it. Literally the only guys impervious to it seemed to be Max Holloway and Nate Diaz, and there's a fair % chance that has a lot to do with weed lol.

Yeah unless you're living under a rock like Dennis Siver was either. I think fighters under estimate not just fighting Conor himself but the occasion it is and the crowd he brings. There was eyes all over the world watching this fight. Its all anybody was talking about around New York. I got into a taxi and when the guy heard my voice the guy was like "Mystic Mac gonna sleep him. He learned from the Diaz fight." Just the support that he has is incredible and if I was fighter I think i'd travel away for my camp and stay off social media.

I actually thought Eddie was doing a good job not letting any of it get to him until the weigh ins. He seemed to be having good fun with it at the Pressers but when the lights hit its a different story. Not to mention the left hand. Eddie said he had never saw that sort of speed before and didn't know what Conor hit him with. Another point is it does seem that these camps seem to completely underestimate Conor's abillity on his feet.

You'd imagine after Eddie got dropped twice and McGregor shrugged off that takedown clipping him with a left on the way out he knew it was all over.

wonderfullife wrote: »

I could be wrong so don't quote me on this but i believe it was Kenny Florian who said yesterday the reason Nate Diaz didn't end up unconscious wasn't purely down to his granite chin. It was also down to the fact that he wasn't lunging forward like Aldo, Alvarez, Brimage etc. He was being dropped with counters but if he had been lunging forward it would have increased the impact of the punches.

That's where boxing and reach comes into play. Nate has the luxury of not needing to close distance. His gameplan isn't wrestling and his reach is superior to Conor.

On that basis alone, I believe Khabib would be the easiest fight for Conor out of Ferguson/Diaz/Khabib. He has a tiny reach for Lightweight, with really short arms and has no power in his hand. I.e. He's the only one out of the three whose gameplan will be 100% reliant on closing the distance rapidly.

Yeah I don't know what planet Nate Diaz comes from to be able to take those shots. Especially after seeing how Eddie was dropped so often and effortlessly.

One thing about the fight that I feel is being overlooked is that Conor never kept in range for Eddie to take him down. The rule of thumb in Wrestling is that if you can't reach and touch your opponent you shouldn't shoot. Conor just kept out of that range and when Eddie got him against the fence you could really see the work that Conor has put in on his TDD and the work with Dillon Danis seems to have done him wonders. Those two seem to be a great duo together.

I wouldn't say Khabib is the easiest (I rate him abit more highly then you though haha) but it's a fight he has the tools to win. I think Khabib would come out angry too and truth be told he's not in Conor's league on the feet. While he does have probably the best grappling in MMA you could see Conor keeping out of range and cracking him time and time again. Johnson had him in trouble and McGregor is a far better striker then Michael. Also the fact that after Khabib gets cracked he wouldn't be 100% there.

I think he'd make light work of Tony Ferguson too tbh, Lando Vanatta dropped him and Tony while he's great on the ground he doesn't have great or explosive takedowns. In saying that, after being worried going into this fight, I'll never doubt McGregor again!