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El Presidente Trump

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  • #1802
    wes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    kilns wrote: »
    I have a feeling he will row back on many of his OTT claims and if does in 4 years times people might be saying he wasnt that bad a president.

    Except the people who voted for of course.

    There are already indications what with corporate lobbyist being part of his transition team. Its pretty funny as its starting to look like, his supporters have been had.


  • #1803
    lawlolawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    As opposed to what kind of racism ?

    The kind Trump was accused of for wanting to deport illegals and not allow criminals into the States from other countries.


  • #1804
    humanji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    lawlolawl wrote:
    The kind Trump was accused of for wanting to deport illegals and not allow criminals into the States from other countries.
    He was accused of racism for a hell of a lot more than just wanting to deport illegal immigrants like his wife.


  • #1805
    lawlolawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    humanji wrote: »
    He was accused of racism for a hell of a lot more than just wanting to deport illegal immigrants like his wife.

    He was accused of a lot of things by people who deliberately misunderstood his statements.


  • #1806
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    As opposed to what kind of racism ?



    What a dummy, good for him to congratulate Trump though.

    As opposed to these extreme leftist kids who were rallying all night chanting Trump supporters were racists. They need to go home to mommies house and STFU. It's only heating tensions.

    Trump stirred up a lot of it as did Hillary associating herself with groups like black lives matter. She had 88% of the black and Trump 2/3's of the white vote, things will be nasty for the next few days.


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  • #1807
    The_Valeyard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    As opposed to these extreme leftist kids who were rallying all night chanting Trump supporters were racists.

    Trump stirred up a lot of it as did Hillary associating herself with groups like black lives matter. She had 88% of the black and Trump 2/3's of the white vote, things will be nasty for the next few days.

    I have zero support for those protests. A vote was had, the will of the people carried. Protesting the vote is pointless. Wait until he actually gets into office, then protest his policies that you disapprove of, not simply because your team lost the race.


  • #1808
    Permabear
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  • #1809
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    lawlolawl wrote: »
    The kind Trump was accused of for wanting to deport illegals and not allow criminals into the States from other countries.

    I think you'll find he was called a racist for, you know... actually saying racist stuff.

    Like saying a judge in one of his many trials couldn't be fair since he is a Mexican (he's actually US born and raised in Indiana).


  • #1810
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    lawlolawl wrote: »
    He was accused of a lot of things by people who deliberately misunderstood his statements.

    Please tell me how I should interpret his Mexican and rapists comment.


  • #1811
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    I have zero support for those protests. A vote was had, the will of the people carried. Protesting the vote is pointless. Wait until he actually gets into office, then protest his policies that you disapprove of, not simply because your team lost the race.

    That's the thing, they have no base for their protests. They want everything handed to them, they believe there's only winners and no losers. They need a kick up the arse. The media and in a way modern PC bullcrap has ruined them.


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  • #1812
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    I have zero support for those protests. A vote was had, the will of the people carried. Protesting the vote is pointless. Wait until he actually gets into office, then protest his policies that you disapprove of, not simply because your team lost the race.

    The will of the people was actually in Clinton's favour if we want to be semantic about it.

    And given how big the Tea Party became just because Obama won the presidency I think these protests (the non-violent ones) are perfectly justified.

    edit: Joe :pac:

    http://i.imgur.com/rmqKMKf.mp4


  • #1813
    kilns
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    wes wrote: »
    kilns wrote: »
    I have a feeling he will row back on many of his OTT claims and if does in 4 years times people might be saying he wasnt that bad a president.

    Except the people who voted for of course.

    There are already indications what with corporate lobbyist being part of his transition team. Its pretty funny as its starting to look like, his supporters have been had.
    He said what they wanted to hear, he is not as dumb as he comes across, as soon as Cruz was out of the race he started to suck up to his core vote speaking on abortion etc to hover up their vote, whether he believed what he said is another story


  • #1814
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    @Christy42 , I agree there is bad eggs on both sides. Plenty of racists on Trumps side, aswell as Hillary's. It annoys me the extreme left claim themselves to be perfect and all Trump supporters are racist.

    Lighten the mood

    https://s14.postimg.org/cxvwnbnz5/1234.jpg

    Sorry if I misunderstood your post but using the term real Racism makes it sound like anything else that had been complained about was not real Racism.

    Certainly the left behaving badly nearly annoys me more as it is how I associate myself and they do it a lot.

    I also agree not all Trump supporters are racist. I will repeat that they all support a racist (or well I guess we're willing to vote for one ad it might not be the same thing).


  • #1815
    lawlolawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Please tell me how I should interpret his Mexican and rapists comment.

    Some of the people coming into the states from Mexico illegally are rapists. Some are not.

    Just because you want to interpret it differently to suit your argument doesn't mean that other people think that way.

    He wants people coming into the country legally and being *gasp* properly vetted.


  • #1816
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    The will of the people was actually in Clinton's favour if we want to be semantic about it.

    And given how big the Tea Party became just because Obama won the presidency I think these protests (the non-violent ones) are perfectly justified.

    They would have protested regardless even if Donald won the popular vote.

    I think everyone should be to a degree happy he won, IMO there was a decent chance a rebellion of sorts would have occurred if Clinton won.


  • #1817
    humanji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    lawlolawl wrote: »
    He was accused of a lot of things by people who deliberately misunderstood his statements.
    No, people defended him by putting a slant on what he said or pretending he never actually said them, despite there being video evidence. He, himself, has had to row back on nearly everything he said in order to distance himself from the original comments. And this is all just from the current election. There's everything before that too. Stop pretending he's god's gift. He is an incredibly flawed man and time will tell if he's able to overcome these flaws for the betterment of that country.


  • #1818
    humanji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    That's the thing, they have no base for their protests. They want everything handed to them, they believe there's only winners and no losers. They need a kick up the arse. The media and in a way modern PC bullcrap has ruined them.
    Is it also the fault of PC bullcr@p that Trump wasn't going to accept anything other than a win or that many republican figureheads were telling people to fight if they lost? The answer is no.

    What's caused the current divide is not the easy answer of "it's the liberals fault". It's the fault of two parties who, instead of fighting for the people, just fought each other out of spite. That's why the Us is in the shape it is.


  • #1819
    lawlolawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    That's the thing, they have no base for their protests. They want everything handed to them, they believe there's only winners and no losers. They need a kick up the arse. The media and in a way modern PC bullcrap has ruined them.

    Spoiled babies literally crying that their girl didn't win like the media promised them she would ;(


  • #1820
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    I have zero support for those protests. A vote was had, the will of the people carried. Protesting the vote is pointless. Wait until he actually gets into office, then protest his policies that you disapprove of, not simply because your team lost the race.

    It's hilarious.

    "When Trump loses, he isn't going to accept the vote. What a prick"
    "Trump won. We better protest."


  • #1821
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    lawlolawl wrote: »
    Spoiled babies literally crying that their girl didn't win like the media promised them she would ;(

    Yes, because Trump supporters weren't talking about violent revolution if their candidate didn't win this 'rigged' election…

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/28/us/politics/donald-trump-voters.html?_r=0

    What's going on seems pretty mild in comparison to what they were talking about doing…


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  • #1822
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,214 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    You conveniently stop after saying he's going to round them up. His plan is to deport people that have no right to be in the country and send them back to their own country, not gas them.

    How many people were depored from America over the last 8 years?

    Look, illegal immigrants are deported all the time, but the act of actively rounding up 11 million people would have serious social consequences.

    You're talking about 3% of the population, the vast majority of whom are peaceful, law abiding productive members of society who would love to become legal citizens.

    11 million people, Most of whom have been living peacefully for a decade or more, many of whom are children, who would be dragged out of schools, rounded up, processed in huge detention centres and shipped overseas.

    That's not a positive move. That's the plot of a cliche dystopian movie

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • #1823
    NI24
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭NI24


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It's hilarious.

    "When Trump loses, he isn't going to accept the vote. What a prick"
    "Trump won. We better protest."

    I'd say prick is the appropriate name for a man who called the electoral college a disaster for democracy and yet just scored a presidency because of it. If indeed he was called a prick for losing.


  • #1824
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,665 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    NSFW maybe, shows a bunch of African Americans beating on a white guy cause he voted for Trump

    https://streamable.com/6nwo

    This is what real Racism is

    Couldn't be racism, that's black people feeling persecuted against the white man, they are only defending themselves :rolleyes:


  • #1825
    lawlolawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    It's hilarious.

    "When Trump loses, he isn't going to accept the vote. What a prick"
    "Trump won. We better protest."

    Did you hear, she won the popular vote?!?

    I love that they only have a problem with the electoral system now that they didn't win.


  • #1826
    humanji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    lawlolawl wrote: »
    Did you hear, she won the popular vote?!?

    I love that they only have a problem with the electoral system now that they didn't win.
    Actually, people have been complaining about it for decades, including Donald Trump.


  • #1827
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    lawlolawl wrote: »
    Did you hear, she won the popular vote?!?

    I love that they only have a problem with the electoral system now that they didn't win.

    That's patently bollocks. People have had a problem with that electoral system since Bush won over Gore.


  • #1828
    lawlolawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    Yes, because Trump supporters weren't talking about violent revolution if their candidate didn't win this 'rigged' election…

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/28/us/politics/donald-trump-voters.html?_r=0

    What's going on seems pretty mild in comparison to what they were talking about doing…

    "Talking about ". Did they actually do anything?

    Also, a story from the New York Times? A paper that has been anti Trump for decades.


  • #1829
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    humanji wrote: »
    Is it also the fault of PC bullcr@p that Trump wasn't going to accept anything other than a win or that many republican figureheads were telling people to fight if they lost? The answer is no.

    What's caused the current divide is not the easy answer of "it's the liberals fault". It's the fault of two parties who, instead of fighting for the people, just fought each other out of spite. That's why the Us is in the shape it is.

    No to your first part. I think there was probably a lot of fake votes for Clinton. When they canceled the fireworks they knew they were in trouble, but didn't expect such a landslide. The count for even some of the small states dragged on for hours when Trump stormed into a lead. They've paid people to disrupt rallies and cause violence, I have no doubt they'd do anything to win. IMO Trump's team played much cleaner in the election and the Clinton team played morally dirty.

    Second point I agree with totally.


  • #1830
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,214 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    I see Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader in the Senate, has poured cold water on a number of Trumps key campaign promises. He said things like infrastructure spending, term limits on Congress, limits on lobbyists weren't on the Senate's agenda amongst other things. Trump will need to learn the game of politics fast.

    The things that might actually be a good idea are off the agenda. But throwing out all environmental regulations, 'We'll get right on that!'

    American cities will look like New Deli before Trump is done with the place. Air polution in Mumbai is literally off the scale. The equipment that monitors the air pollution is breaking down because of the amount of pollution in the air.
    http://www.popsci.com/air-pollution-new-delhi

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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  • #1831
    Butters1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Butters1979


    NI24 wrote: »
    I'd say prick is the appropriate name for a man who called the electoral college a disaster for democracy and yet just scored a presidency because of it. If indeed he was called a prick for losing.

    So surely it proved his point about the electoral college. You shouldn't win the presidency without the popular vote.

    These protest are the direct result of the snowflake generation coming out of the US universities when any difference of opinion was met with censorship and even disciplinary action. They just can't face life in the real world where not everyone panders to their sensitivities. They genuinely can't believe it didn't go their way for once.


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