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2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    Can anyone explain why Trump is winning this.

    Did Clinton supporters just stay at home assuming a victory ?Unlikely as it looked lik a big turnout.

    Someone said on this or another thread that 20℅ of lations voted for Trump, have the media over exaggerated the numbers of minorities and women that they assumed were in the Clinton camp ?

    Even though I know full well that Clinton is as about as unlikeable as they come I'm still surprised by this.

    Trump targeted the rust belt states and it seems to have worked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Trump wins Utah.

    Hillary in 3rd place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Trump wins Utah.

    Hillary in 3rd place.


    That was the easiest prediction of the campaign.

    Feck all Democrat vote there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Winning by 50 is ridiculous prediction.

    Nate Silver (538) is currently predicting him winning by 30.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,869 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Based on Trump offering potential VP picks responsibility for 'Foreign and Domestic Policy' ie. fecking everything!! Trump just wanted the title of Presidency for his ego but leave the work of governing to Pence. So the question is are the GOP happy with having one of their guys in the VP seat and let the outsider Trump take all the heat or will we see that it'll ironically be the GOP and not the Dems that'll impeach Trump which then gets their guy Pence the Presidency. ie. Establishment GOP win in the end.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,187 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I've yet to see someone make a credible argument for this man in power.

    By credible I mean one supported by actual policies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Jake Tapper on CNN says a lot of veterans agreed with Trump that the US was getting involved too much in other countries abroad, which Hillary was defending.

    Trump had two speeches. one for if he lost and the other if he won, Dana Bash say his winning speech will gracious and will reach out to the Clinton side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,187 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Jake Tapper on CNN says a lot ov veterans agreed with Trump that the US was getting involved too much in other countries abroad, which Hillary was defending.

    Trump had two speeches. one for if he lost and the other if he won, Dana Bash say his winning speech will gracious and will reach out to the Clinton side.

    The bushes have been doing it for decades the grass roots republicans are the ones who voted for that in the pass woo America fk yeah.


    That's what's hilarious about this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭vetinari


    In the short term, we're probably entering a recession. He's going to be a ****ing disaster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Trump wins Utah.

    Hillary in 3rd place.

    Delighted! Egg McMuffin and the roaches in the NeverTrump movement will choke on that.

    This day/night is like a dream, just gets better and better....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,187 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Delighted! Egg McMuffin and the roaches in the NeverTrump movement will choke on that.

    This day/night is like a dream, just gets better and better....

    Why though what does it mean to you.

    Specifically on an Irish stage which I presume is where you personally get paid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    Can anyone explain why Trump is winning this.

    Did Clinton supporters just stay at home assuming a victory ?Unlikely as it looked lik a big turnout.

    Someone said on this or another thread that 20 of lations voted for Trump, have the media over exaggerated the numbers of minorities and women that they assumed were in the Clinton camp ?

    Even though I know full well that Clinton is as about as unlikeable as they come I'm still surprised by this.
    I think that's it. The media assumed because of the various scandals that latinos and women wouldn't vote for Trump but that was never backed up by the polls. The media also talked about a lot about hidden voters who are ashamed to admit to pollstars that they will vote for Trump. That might seem unlikely but to be fair CNN were talking about it early in the day when everyone was still predicting Clinton to win and before the results starting coming in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    #spiritcooking took away alot of the Latino and Black vote imo, power of twitter. The links to Podesta are much deeper than just satanic rituals though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Nabber


    I think that's it. The media assumed because of the various scandals that latinos and women wouldn't vote for Trump but that was never backed up by the polls. The media also talked about a lot about hidden voters who are ashamed to admit to pollstars that they will vote for Trump. That might seem unlikely but to be fair CNN were talking about it early in the day when everyone was still predicting Clinton to win and before the results starting coming in.

    The media never spoke of anything but a Clinton win.
    Only after the states began to swing did they start the reason why people didn't vote.

    Media still have reasons why Clinton lost, but refusing to tackle why Trump won.

    I listened to all his speeches, I see no reason other than he is REP that would make him lose the Black vote.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭Jericho Caine


    listermint wrote: »
    I've yet to see someone make a credible argument for this man in power.

    By credible I mean one supported by actual policies.

    Amazingfun, want to chip in here? I will fall out of my ****ing chair if you post ANYTHING resembling knowledge on Trumps policies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭FISMA.


    Drudge calls pa for trump. Citing ny times


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,187 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Nabber wrote: »
    The media never spoke of anything but a Clinton win.
    Only after the states began to swing did they start the reason why people didn't vote.

    Media still have reasons why Clinton lost, but refusing to tackle why Trump won.

    I listened to all his speeches, I see no reason other than he is REP that would make him lose the Black vote.

    Ehh taking away their health care life line. You know the stuff they need for their families....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    Nabber wrote: »
    The media never spoke of anything but a Clinton win.
    Only after the states began to swing did they start the reason why people didn't vote.

    Media still have reasons why Clinton lost, but refusing to tackle why Trump won.

    I listened to all his speeches, I see no reason other than he is REP that would make him lose the Black vote.

    Fox has been fair to Trump, the rest should be ashamed of themselves. Trump took them all on and in a lot of cases made them look incredibly silly. Wikileaks also destroyed them and showed the corruption.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,187 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Fox has been fair to Trump, the rest should be ashamed of themselves. Trump took them all on and in a lot of cases made them look incredibly silly. Wikileaks also destroyed them and showed the corruption.

    Fox fair...

    LOL fox plays to a specific audience always has.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    #spiritcooking took away alot of the Latino and Black vote imo, power of twitter. The links to Podesta are much deeper than just satanic rituals though.

    This for sure. And it is nowhere near being over. Do you follow Mike Cernovich?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Given Wikileaks showed the Democrats wanted either Trump or Cruz for Hillary to go up against, it is a case of be careful what you wish for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    This for sure. And it is nowhere near being over. Do you follow Mike Cernovich?

    Nope, followed stuff on reddit and read all the wikileak releases though on his gmail and work accounts. #pizza :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Given Wikileaks showed the Democrats wanted either Trump or Cruz for Hillary to go up against, it is a case of be careful what you wish for.


    Yes, their "Pied Piper" strategy. Wonder what heads will be rolling for this?

    https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/796222841612042240


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Delighted! Egg McMuffin and the roaches in the NeverTrump movement will choke on that.

    This day/night is like a dream, just gets better and better....

    I am happy for Romney, the Bushes and John Kasich.

    Romney was so bitter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭IamtheWalrus


    Is Fox News or Sky news on saorview?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Nabber


    listermint wrote: »
    Ehh taking away their health care life line. You know the stuff they need for their families....

    But people wanna work and provided for themselves, not live on benefits.
    Build the wall, create jobs and lock Hillary up. Still not sure why Black vote would be against him.

    Any part of society who shuns work in favour of benefits shouldn't be pandered for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    #pizza :mad:

    I was the same. Didn't sleep well the first day it dropped, very dark stuff.

    Well @Cernovich will be a good follow in the coming months, says he plans to go after suspected pedophiles in Government next.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,187 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Nabber wrote: »
    But people wanna work and provided for themselves, not live on benefits.
    Build the wall, create jobs and lock Hillary up. Still not sure why Black vote would be against him.

    Any part of society who shuns work in favour of benefits shouldn't be pandered for.

    Healthcare is not in reach of people including those that work.

    Its clear from your Irish comfortable seat you have no idea how working people in the US can't send their children for checkups relying solely on charity clinics.

    You should really investigate more rather than relying on soundbites


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    Assange hinted the emails closer to the election are far worse than that we've see so far. Joke she's gotten away with everything for so long. There's literally emails of them talking about the foundation of how to hide the corruption. FBI sold their soul.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭IamtheWalrus


    When is the result likely to be confirmed?


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