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2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

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  • #7052
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Yes, an abortion clinic. A place where women get to exercise autonomy over their reproductive health, unless a religiously-motivated nineteenth-century-fixated regressive political party dominated by old men decides that they can't be allowed to do so.

    A lot of people find partial birth abortion absolutely horrific and something Hillary supports.
    I won't describe it as I don't know how anyone supports it, and it would make one sick.


  • #7053
    Harry Angstrom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Yes, an abortion clinic. A place where women get to exercise autonomy over their reproductive health, unless a religiously-motivated nineteenth-century-fixated regressive political party dominated by old men decides that they can't be allowed to do so.

    I was referring to the absurdity of somebody calling it a "pro-choice" clinic. I have no interest in debating the rights or wrongs of abortion here, I just wish people would call a spade a spade, instead of using ridiculous euphemisms.


  • #7054
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Hillary wins Virginia.


  • #7055
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,412 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    A lot of people seem to be fully taken in by what Trumo has been saying about building walls and all the crisp that was dug up by the democrats.
    Trump is a very intelligent man who has found a way to get the dumbest Americans to go vote. He is not going to build a wall, no chance of that happening, he is not going to make life tough for women, blacks, Hispanics or gay people. I think he might even improve the country.

    I'm not a Trump supporter and I was hoping that Hilary would win but it's not going to be nearly as bad as a lot of people are making out if Trump is the next US president.


  • #7056
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Suryavarman wrote: »
    NYT giving Trump an 87% chance of winning with ~290 electoral votes but Clinton winning popular vote by 1.5%.

    If he wins either Michigan or Wisconsin he wins.

    It's safe to say the big winner of this election is Nate Silver.

    Is the champagne warm or cold ;)


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  • #7057
    Liamalone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,020 ✭✭✭Liamalone


    Nellie the Elephant packed her trunk
    And said goodbye to the circus
    Off she went with a trumpety-trump

    Trump, Trump , Trump


  • #7058
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,984 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Harry Angstrom wrote: »
    I was referring to the absurdity of somebody calling it a "pro-choice" clinic. I have no interest in debating the rights or wrongs of abortion here, I just wish people would call a spade a spade, instead of using ridiculous euphemisms.

    Well, I guess if we are arguing semantics and what to call it, we aren't discussing the hypocrisy of having a country so defined by "freedom" not allowing women to have a free choice with regards their own bodies :rolleyes:


  • #7059
    TheOven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭TheOven


    eagle eye wrote: »
    A lot of people seem to be fully taken in by what Trumo has been saying about building walls and all the crisp that was dug up by the democrats.
    Trump is a very intelligent man who has found a way to get the dumbest Americans to go vote. He is not going to build a wall, no chance of that happening, he is not going to make life tough for women, blacks, Hispanics or gay people. I think he might even improve the country.

    I'm not a Trump supporter and I was hoping that Hilary would win but it's not going to be nearly as bad as a lot of people are making out if Trump is the next US president.

    It depends, the globalist elites will be fine. The people who hate them have the most to lose.


  • #7060
    mrkiscool2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭mrkiscool2


    dark crystal wrote: »
    She's won Virginia and Colorado and will win Iowa and Pennsylvania (by the votes counted so far). Nevada still hasn't declared, either.

    There's still a way to go yet.
    There is but he is looking more likely to break the firewall by winning Michigan which leaves her with very few paths to victory. It gives Trump multiple paths. It's not over, but it is more and more looking like Trump will be President.


  • #7061
    Suryavarman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Suryavarman


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Is the champagne warm or cold ;)

    Neither. The tea is warm though and the fry I'm about to start cooking will be nice and hot :P


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  • #7062
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    eagle eye wrote: »
    A lot of people seem to be fully taken in by what Trumo has been saying about building walls and all the crisp that was dug up by the democrats.
    Trump is a very intelligent man who has found a way to get the dumbest Americans to go vote. He is not going to build a wall, no chance of that happening, he is not going to make life tough for women, blacks, Hispanics or gay people. I think he might even improve the country.

    I'm not a Trump supporter and I was hoping that Hilary would win but it's not going to be nearly as bad as a lot of people are making out if Trump is the next US president.


    I think a lot felt Clinton, more of the same, a neocon war hawk, and 8 years of the controversy ridden Clintons was enough.
    People wanted change.


  • #7063
    Sierra Oscar
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,728 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    New York Times now predicting a 91% chance of a Trump victory.


  • #7064
    Harry Angstrom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Well, I guess if we are arguing semantics and what to call it, we aren't discussing the hypocrisy of having a country so defined by "freedom" not allowing women to have a free choice with regards their own bodies :rolleyes:

    Yes, and exercising that freedom by visiting an abortion clinic, not a "pro-choice" clinic :rolleyes:


  • #7065
    briany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,412 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Sierra Oscar wrote: »
    New York Times now predicting a 91% chance of a Trump victory.

    How do they figure that?


  • #7066
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Love Trumps hate becomes Donald trumps Hillary.


  • #7067
    Sierra Oscar
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,728 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    briany wrote: »
    How do they figure that?

    Path to victory in the electoral college. Hillary's options are closing. Trump's opening up big time. His strategy of focusing on the rust belt is paying off big time.


  • #7068
    RobbingBandit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,479 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    He needs Florida North Carolina and Nevada to give him breathing room.


  • #7069
    mrkiscool2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭mrkiscool2


    briany wrote: »
    How do they figure that?
    He breaks the firewall in Michigan and holds onto Arizona, that is enough to win the election for him based on the map!


  • #7070
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,766 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39qCGJFMa9E

    This too shall pass.



  • #7071
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    swinging again a bit in Clinton's favour. Trump probably wins but will be very tight.


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  • #7072
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,859 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    RobertKK wrote: »
    A lot of people find partial birth abortion absolutely horrific and something...
    ...that doesn't exist. Don't mindlessly parrot conservative talking points; they just make you look silly.
    RobertKK wrote: »
    People wanted change.
    Well, it looks like they're going to get it. I wonder who they'll be blaming their woes on in four years' time?


  • #7073
    briany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,412 ✭✭✭✭briany


    mrkiscool2 wrote: »
    There is but he is looking more likely to break the firewall by winning Michigan which leaves her with very few paths to victory. It gives Trump multiple paths. It's not over, but it is more and more looking like Trump will be President.

    Didn't some Detroit paper call Michigan for Hillary?


  • #7074
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    eagle eye wrote: »
    A lot of people seem to be fully taken in by what Trumo has been saying about building walls and all the crisp that was dug up by the democrats.
    Trump is a very intelligent man who has found a way to get the dumbest Americans to go vote. He is not going to build a wall, no chance of that happening, he is not going to make life tough for women, blacks, Hispanics or gay people. I think he might even improve the country.

    I'm not a Trump supporter and I was hoping that Hilary would win but it's not going to be nearly as bad as a lot of people are making out if Trump is the next US president.

    This is if we believe he is going to be a hands-on President. I think this is primarily about his narcissism and feeding his ego. I believe he will be a figurehead. They will hand him his speeches and he'll say what they want and he'll not give a damn as he is in this for the photo ops, and the adoring crowds. He's going to be a puppet imo.

    Pence is the guy we're going to have to get to know, just like with Cheney. He will be the one doing the bulk of the policy as he is the career politician of the two.


  • #7075
    Mr.Micro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    ...that doesn't exist. Don't mindlessly parrot conservative talking points; they just make you look silly.

    Well, it looks like they're going to get it. I wonder who they'll be blaming their woes on in four years' time?

    They will find someone or some country, rather than look at themselves.


  • #7076
    Liamalone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,020 ✭✭✭Liamalone


    Nellie the Elephant packed her trunk
    And said goodbye to the circus
    Off she went with a trumpety-trump

    Trump, Trump , Trump


  • #7077
    Harry Angstrom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    Slight disparity with bookmakers at the moment - Trump 1/6 with Ladbrokes but 3/10 with Paddy Power.


  • #7078
    Sparks43
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    Liamalone wrote: »
    Nellie the Elephant packed her trunk
    And said goodbye to the circus
    Off she went with a trumpety-trump

    Trump, Trump , Trump


    Once is funny

    Twice is annoying


  • #7079
    mrkiscool2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭mrkiscool2


    briany wrote: »
    Didn't some Detroit paper call Michigan for Hillary?
    It did, but that was on a very early call. It wasn't supposed to be close but once it became close it shouldn't have been called. The way the votes are going in districts are showing huge wins for Trumps where he was expected to win and small (and, in some parts of Detroit, loses) wins for Clinton. That gives Trump the win there.


  • #7080
    Amazingfun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Love Trumps hate becomes Donald trumps Hillary.


    Same thing ;)


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  • #7081
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,859 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    This is if we believe he is going to be a hands-on President. I think this is primarily about his narcissism and feeding his ego. I believe he will be a figurehead. They will hand him his speeches and he'll say what they want and he'll not give a damn as he is in this for the photo ops, and the adoring crowds. He's going to be a puppet imo.

    Pence is the guy we're going to have to get to know, just like with Cheney. He will be the one doing the bulk of the policy as he is the career politician of the two.

    I think you're partly wrong about the first part, and probably right about the second. Pence will likely dictate much policy, which is a terrifying prospect for anyone with any respect for science or, well, people.

    The problem with the first part is that Trump's ego won't allow him to settle for being a figurehead. He's emotionally incapable of ignoring a slight, and is entirely capable of starting an actual shooting war over a Twitter insult.


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