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2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

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  • #6632
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,016 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Sofa Spud wrote: »
    Might want to take a look again - he gives it 58.3 - 41.7 to Clinton....

    Look at which state?

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • #6633
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Democrats want polls left open beyond the time they close. That is not right either.
    If they are down in an area they use local radio to get message out and then the go to courts to keep polls open .


  • #6634
    Sparks43
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    Brian? wrote: »
    I don't believe in the silent voter phenomenon, it has never been shown to exist. Most of the election shocks like Brexit were in the polls margin for error.

    There is a huge turnout though, that may play into Trump's hands.

    That does sound so counter-intuitive though. So much has been said about republican vote suppression.

    On the silent voters i may be proved wrong on this and if i am then i will hold my hands up straight away.


  • #6635
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,016 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Democrats want polls left open beyond the time they close. That is not right either.
    If they are down in an area they use local radio to get message out and then the go to courts to keep polls open .

    They want to hold them open due to malfunctioning equipment. get a grip.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • #6636
    Sofa Spud
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Sofa Spud


    Brian? wrote: »
    Look at which state?

    Apologies Brian - was speed reading the posts between you and price 690 and I thought you had said Trump will take NV based on 538 - will read more slowly in future...


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  • #6637
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I would gladly keep polls open for a week. Doesn't offend me that more people I disagree with would vote. Everyone should get the chance to vote.


  • #6638
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,016 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Sofa Spud wrote: »
    Apologies Brian - was speed reading the posts between you and price 690 and I thought you had said Trump will take NV based on 538 - will read more slowly in future...

    No worries.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • #6639
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,174 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Brian? wrote: »
    They want to hold them open due to malfunctioning equipment. get a grip.

    B-b-but it's stealing the election for Crooked HillaREEEEEEEEE!

    Let's just ignore any instance of the same being done in a pro-Trump precinct...


  • #6640
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Brian? wrote: »
    They want to hold them open due to malfunctioning equipment. get a grip.

    They need an excuse . Is here malfunctioning equipment , who knows.
    Can't just come up with excuses, if it's broken it's broken. Time won't fix that.
    Leaving polls open for people to use faulty equipment is no use.


  • #6641
    Sparks43
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    Overheal wrote: »
    I would gladly keep polls open for a week. Doesn't offend me that more people I disagree with would vote. Everyone should get the chance to vote.

    And between 2 threads and near 17k post this is the closest any post gets to being bang on the money.


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  • #6642
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,107 ✭✭✭Christy42


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    They need an excuse . Is here malfunctioning equipment , who knows.
    Can't just come up with excuses, if it's broken it's broken. Time won't fix that.
    Leaving polls open for people to use faulty equipment is no use.

    Equipment can be fixed or replaced. They have people dotted around to respond to these situations.

    Really how do you not see that counterargument coming.


  • #6643
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Overheal wrote: »
    I would gladly keep polls open for a week. Doesn't offend me that more people I disagree with would vote. Everyone should get the chance to vote.


    I agree. But it's funny that it's in a location that Hillary is losing that they want polls left open. It's funny they are on local radio in same area telling Hillary supports to get down to vote, that they will keep polls open for them.
    Coincidence that all that is happening in place they are down and it's same place with ''faulty equipment ''


  • #6644
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Equipment can be fixed or replaced. They have people dotted around to respond to these situations.

    Really how do you not see that counterargument coming.


    As long as it's fair.


  • #6645
    learn_more
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭learn_more


    Feminist being asked on Vincent Brown if a woman being elected president would make much of a difference to your cause.

    'Not really', was the reply.

    lol


  • #6646
    m1ck007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 573 ✭✭✭m1ck007


    Leave was 5/1 on referendum night


  • #6647
    26000 Elephants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭26000 Elephants


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Equipment can be fixed or replaced. They have people dotted around to respond to these situations.

    Really how do you not see that counterargument coming.

    Plus, with 10 machines you get a certain throughput, with only 8 working machines throughput is reduced, hence later opening to allow everyone to vote.


  • #6648
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,016 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    They need an excuse . Is here malfunctioning equipment , who knows.
    Can't just come up with excuses, if it's broken it's broken. Time won't fix that.
    Leaving polls open for people to use faulty equipment is no use.

    You're talking through your hat. The machines shut down so they switched to paper ballots. Slowed things down a bit. Let the people vote and stop cribbing.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • #6649
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    price690 wrote: »
    Based on what?

    I think he will take Nevada personally but I'm not pretending to be sure of it

    NPR were reporting Trump's team had privately more or less conceded Nevada.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #6650
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Brian? wrote: »
    I don't believe in the silent voter phenomenon, it has never been shown to exist. Most of the election shocks like Brexit were in the polls margin for error.

    There is a huge turnout though, that may play into Trump's hands.

    There was supposed to be a Bradley effect (think that is the name!) against Obama in 08 and it never really happened.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #6651
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Mod:
    There are 2 live threads going for election night, best we keep the election night talk to those 2. No point having the same discussion going in 3 threads!

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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  • #6652
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,542 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Ana Navarro on CNN is just clarifying that she isn't a trump supporter. She even spoke Spanish and it didn't sound complimentary.


  • #6653
    Sofa Spud
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Sofa Spud


    K-9 wrote: »
    NPR were reporting Trump's team had privately more or less conceded Nevada.



    Slate are showing the vote in NV as 473k for Hillary and 465k for Trump - 2012 total vote was 990k, so there's still some voting to be done - probably a couple of hours from when the numbers were released and the close of the polls.

    Still, it's way to close to call now, but if the Latino vote has increased by as much as is anecdotally being said, then you would have to think that will benefit Hillary.


  • #6654
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,558 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Trump swaying between 4/1 and 5/1 on Paddy Power, at 4/1 now.


  • #6655
    InTheTrees
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    K-9 wrote: »
    There was supposed to be a Bradley effect (think that is the name!) against Obama in 08 and it never really happened.

    If anything I'd expect these "silent" voters to turn out for Hillary, I don't get why people think they'd be for trump? Because they're ashamed to be voting for trump? That doesn't sound like his supporters.


  • #6656
    Amazingfun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Fox called Indiana and Kentucky for Trump.......Vermont for Hillary....more coming


  • #6657
    Sofa Spud
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Sofa Spud


    OK, so first exit polls...

    Virginia Clinton leading - no call

    Georgia No call - interesting, should be Trump's

    Vermont Hillary

    South Carolina No call - interesting, should be Trump's

    Indiana Trump

    Kentucky Trump

    So, no real shockers but interesting that 2 blue states are too close to call


  • #6658
    Sparks43
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    Fox call SC and Georgia too close to call.

    Think i heard trump cursing from here


  • #6659
    26000 Elephants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭26000 Elephants


    InTheTrees wrote: »
    If anything I'd expect these "silent" voters to turn out for Hillary, I don't get why people think they'd be for trump? Because they're ashamed to be voting for trump? That doesn't sound like his supporters.

    Absolutely. Trump supporters feel the need to advocate. If there is a 'silent' vote, it will go against him.


  • #6660
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,542 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Sparks43 wrote: »
    Fox call SC and Georgia too close to call.

    Think i heard trump cursing from here
    Haha.


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  • #6661
    TheOven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭TheOven


    Nothin of interest yet, so far matching 538.


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