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2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

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  • #6602
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Ironically had he not run Ted Cruz would have won this in a landslide against someone like Hillary. So in a way trump is handing it to her if he loses.


  • #6603
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Its fair to say whoever gets elected will have to have a serious security team for the next 4 years (if they last) and considering the polarised detest for both, there will be some nasty events on the horizon.


  • #6604
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    46% want more conservative policies according to CNN exit poll.


  • #6605
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    captbarnacles wrote: »
    woah what just happened? trump went from 7 to 8's in 30 secs

    Reacting to people who put money on Hillary. They don't know anything except more and more money is going on Hillary.
    That is the trend and people are following it to win some money, but no one truly knows a lot just yet .


  • #6606
    TheOven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭TheOven


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    Its fair to say whoever gets elected will have to have a serious security team for the next 4 years (if they last) and considering the polarised detest for both, there will be some nasty events on the horizon.

    If Obama can survive, anyone can. I'm sure there will be some attempts but Y'allqueda tend to be mostly talk when it comes to actually doing anything with those guns.


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  • #6607
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    Its fair to say whoever gets elected will have to have a serious security team for the next 4 years (if they last) and considering the polarised detest for both, there will be some nasty events on the horizon.

    Trump has some crazy people out there who think he represents them, he does not though, not at all .


  • #6608
    Rjd2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,291 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Reacting to people who put money on Hillary. They don't know anything except more and more money is going on Hillary.
    That is the trend and people are following it to win some money, but no one truly knows a lot just yet .

    Aye its just bookies covering liabilities nothing else. The lads in Powers etc that is all they are reacting to, lads who think that HC is free money. They have no more knowledge than many here on this election.


  • #6609
    Sparks43
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    Im calling it either deadlocked or a very narrow Trump victory.

    I called Brexit early as well :eek:


  • #6610
    Sofa Spud
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Sofa Spud


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Ironically had he not run Ted Cruz would have won this in a landslide against someone like Hillary. So in a way trump is handing it to her if he loses.

    ??
    Based on what - he's hated by his own party, not even his daughters like him - he's the one other contender in the primaries that Hillary could have beaten handily. If Kaisich had been the nominee, he could have walked it...


  • #6611
    IamtheWalrus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭IamtheWalrus


    The exit polls at midnight will give accurate result?


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  • #6612
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    TheOven wrote: »
    If Obama can survive, anyone can. I'm sure there will be some attempts but Y'allqueda tend to be mostly talk when it comes to actually doing anything with those guns.

    Not at all. The reaction to Obama being elected was one of the most moderate electoral reactions in decades. (including Clinton). His only problems were that he was far too moderate a POTUS. Left little legacy really.


  • #6613
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,563 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Sparks43 wrote: »
    Im calling it either deadlocked or a very narrow Trump victory.

    I called Brexit early as well :eek:

    I'm calling it Hillary with at least 50 electoral college votes to spare

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • #6614
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Trump has some crazy people out there who think he represents them, he does not though, not at all .

    He ain't gonna win but if he did he would also most likely soon face the wrath of some of his most extreme supporters.


  • #6615
    Sparks43
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    Akrasia wrote: »
    I'm calling it Hillary with at least 50 electoral college votes to spare


    Are you of the opinion that trump loses Florida NC NV MI?


  • #6616
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,016 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Sparks43 wrote: »
    Are you of the opinion that trump loses Florida NC NV MI?

    Trump loses NV and MI, definitely . NC is trending blue.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • #6617
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Sofa Spud wrote: »
    ??
    Based on what - he's hated by his own party, not even his daughters like him - he's the one other contender in the primaries that Hillary could have beaten handily. If Kaisich had been the nominee, he could have walked it...

    Based on fact he would of won nomination I guess had Trump not ran.
    He is clean cut and appealed to the masses. Had Trump came down those stairs last year and not had a go at Mexicans he too could have won.
    Looking back it was a huge mistake. It was only in last month that he appealed to them and the black community . He burned those bridges though.


  • #6618
    Ronin247
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭Ronin247


    price690 wrote: »
    Wasn't the stay campaign for Brexit similarly odds on aswell when polls closed?

    I dont think it was that wide. Remain was about 2 / 5 which is nowhere near Hillarys 1 / 6.

    Bookies odds are usually a good predictor in American elections but are not infallible because a number of things come into play.....eg. larger bets sway the odds, but they would usually be from richer people, who would tend to be republican, so they cannot be relied on completely.

    It is a v e r y wide margin.


  • #6619
    Sofa Spud
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Sofa Spud


    http://www.slate.com/votecastr_election_day_turnout_tracker.html

    They just updated again - annoyingly, they are not giving a percentage of the vote, just the actual vote numbers, but Hillary is still up in all 7 states.

    Florida has a serious uplift in voter turnout - they've already well exceeded the total vote in 2012 - and Hillary still has a handy lead.

    All the rest are neck and neck, so too early to make any determination, but it does look like she'll carry Florida at least.

    NC is not included in this site, which is a pity, but my guess is that it'll look close and then in the end Hillary should exceed 300, possibly 323


  • #6620
    Sparks43
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    Brian? wrote: »
    Trump loses NV and MI, definitely . NC is trending blue.

    I think we are in for a night of surprises. Im not in anyway a Trump lover or Clinton for that matter so i have no axe to grind.


  • #6621
    price690
    Closed Accounts Posts: 664 ✭✭✭price690


    Brian? wrote: »
    Trump loses NV and MI, definitely . NC is trending blue.

    Based on what?

    I think he will take Nevada personally but I'm not pretending to be sure of it


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  • #6622
    glued
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,446 ✭✭✭glued


    Trump tried to stop some Latinos votes being counted in Nevada. That's horrendous!


  • #6623
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    price690 wrote: »
    Based on what?

    I think he will take Nevada personally but I'm not pretending to be sure of it

    I think the panic around Trump's team suggesting Democrat bias voting methods and the lawsuit today would suggest they are pretty confident/worried themselves they will lose Nevada.


  • #6624
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,542 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    CNN are reporting that the Clinton camp are extremely worried about North Carolina.


  • #6625
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,016 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    price690 wrote: »
    Based on what?

    I think he will take Nevada personally but I'm not pretending to be sure of it

    Based on the predictions of Nate Silver. He called 50/50 states correctly in 2012 and 49/50 correct in 2008.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=mobilebar&v=1

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • #6626
    26000 Elephants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭26000 Elephants


    Clinton has to be happy with the way things are developing in Florida and Nevada.


  • #6627
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,016 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    CNN are reporting that the Clinton camp are extremely worried about North Carolina.

    It's really close. She doesn't need it though. There's a decent chance she gets Florida, that's game over.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • #6628
    Sparks43
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    Brian? wrote: »
    Based on the predictions of Nate Silver. He called 50/50 states correctly in 2012 and 49/50 correct in 2008.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=mobilebar&v=1


    I have looked at that site more than any other in the last few months and if this was a normal :confused: election id be calling Clinton the winner

    This is not a normal election however and i just cant escape the feeling that a latent Trump vote exists.

    I will say this again though i am not a Trump lover the possibility of a Trump presidency scares the crap out of me


  • #6629
    Sofa Spud
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Sofa Spud


    Brian? wrote: »
    Based on the predictions of Nate Silver. He called 50/50 states correctly in 2012 and 49/50 correct in 2008.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=mobilebar&v=1

    Might want to take a look again - he gives it 58.3 - 41.7 to Clinton....


  • #6630
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,016 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Sparks43 wrote: »
    I have looked at that site more than any other in the last few months and if this was a normal :confused: election id be calling Clinton the winner

    This is not a normal election however and i just cant escape the feeling that a latent Trump vote exists.

    I will say this again though i am not a Trump lover the possibility of a Trump presidency scares the crap out of me

    I don't believe in the silent voter phenomenon, it has never been shown to exist. Most of the election shocks like Brexit were in the polls margin for error.

    There is a huge turnout though, that may play into Trump's hands.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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  • #6631
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    A majority of Americans are concerned or scared whoever wins.


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