Road issues that irritate me.......

HellSquirrel · 07-11-2016 10:31PM

Jawgap wrote: »

Well it started with the status of child and parent spaces.....and especially the way some folks think they are of a similar status to disabled spaces, which they're not......

.....after that a procession of posters seemed to want to take issue with anyone dating to suggest that parents were anything other than deserving of preferential treatment when it comes to parking. I was simply making the point they're not, and child and parent spots are really just extra paint.

I actually backed out of that conversation around the point of the rant about feral children. It came across by the end of it that you feel that parents who dare have their children in a supermarket should be punished by having the parking spaces laid out by the store taken by drivers who want a bigger spot.

I mean..isn't that what it comes down to? It's a bigger, more convenient spot so you should have it? It's not a legal requirement, it's true, but I wonder how you'd feel about the whole situation if disabled spaces were more just guidelines relying on the goodwill of society to maintain too? Would courtesy trump convenience?

Still though, you're correct. It's nothing that is enforced, it is down to goodwill, and if you don't have that goodwill towards a parent that might be struggling, then the space is yours. I won't take one anyway. Hopefully it is a parent with a small child (or an elderly passenger, or someone else that needs it) that takes it rather than someone who feels it insulting that concessions should be made to certain demographics and not others.

I probably wouldn't take a trolley with a babyseat in it either! :P

Jawgap · 07-11-2016 10:38PM

HellSquirrel wrote: »

I actually backed out of that conversation around the point of the rant about feral children. It came across by the end of it that you feel that parents who dare have their children out in places where people might meet them should be punished by having the parking spaces laid out by the store taken by drivers who want a bigger spot.

I mean..isn't that what it comes down to? It's a bigger, more convenient spot so you should have it? It's not a legal requirement, it's true, but I wonder how you'd feel about the whole situation if disabled spaces were more just guidelines relying on the goodwill of society to maintain too? Would courtesy trump convenience?

Still though, you're correct. It's nothing that is enforced, it is down to goodwill, and if you don't have that goodwill towards a parent that might be struggling, then the space is yours. I won't take one anyway. Hopefully it is a parent with a small child (or an elderly passenger, or someone else that needs it) that takes it rather than someone who feels it insulting that concessions should be made to certain demographics and not others.

I probably wouldn't take a trolley with a babyseat in it either! :P

Yes, but disabled spots are legal. And if they weren't there's a lot more to be said for meeting a genuine need than a convenience. Should we also make concessions to allow some of the parking that goes on around schools? Such as double parking, parking on double yellows, parking close to pedestrian crossings, and junctions?

I wouldn't take a trolley with a baby seat either - far too big.

Armchair Andy · 07-11-2016 10:40PM

Drivers who take all day to overtake another car. Speed kills sure, but I've seen instances where lack of speed has seriously endangered more than the culprit himself.

Worse again, the white line hogger welded to the back of a slower moving car threatening to overtake but actually never does. Back up and leave a few car lengths if you've no intention of overtaking anything.

maudgonner · 07-11-2016 10:41PM

Jawgap wrote: »

Yes, but disabled spots are legal. And if they weren't there's a lot more to be said for meeting a genuine need than a convenience. Should we also make concessions to allow some of the parking that goes on around schools? Such as double parking, parking on double yellows, parking close to pedestrian crossings, and junctions?

I wouldn't take a trolley with a baby seat either - far too big.

Actually in a private carpark the disabled spots aren't enforced by the Gardaí/Parking Warden. It's up to the carpark operator to police them as they see fit, under the rules they lay down for the carpark. Just as they're allowed to enforce other rules, like Parent & Child spaces.

CalamariFritti · 07-11-2016 10:49PM

Clowns who overtake you on the motorway then slow down to less what you were doing before. Eventually you overtake them back cos you just wanna do your steady speed. Then the whole thing starts all over again. Wtf?

On a related subject. Yes, up the hill you have to press that pedal down a little harder or you will slow down.

Not indicating or wrongly indicating or my favourite just flicking it on while they're turning. Nothing says clearer to everyone else here is someone who hasn't a clue. Indicating in general. Majority just not bothered I guess. Yet everyone seems to find the indicator when they expect to be let in.

Going half blind due to blown bulbs. For weeks. What are you going to do when that other bulb goes btw? In a long bend on a dark night at speed...

John_Rambo · 07-11-2016 11:00PM

Jawgap wrote: »

Well it started with the status of child and parent spaces.....and especially the way some folks think they are of a similar status to disabled spaces, which they're not......

.....after that a procession of posters seemed to want to take issue with anyone dating to suggest that parents were anything other than deserving of preferential treatment when it comes to parking. I was simply making the point they're not, and child and parent spots are really just extra paint.

Their house, their rules.

Trebor176 · 07-11-2016 11:06PM

- Queue jumpers
- Drivers leaving the exit of a motorway until the last second (that includes those that go from the outside all the way to the inside in one go)
- Slow drivers
- Lane hoggers
- Tailgaters

groucho marx · 07-11-2016 11:06PM

People using high beams on the motorway, not sure how high they think the barrier is.

railer201 · 07-11-2016 11:16PM

Cyclists who run red through pedestrian crossings when pedestrians are crossing on the green man.

Cyclists who cycle at speed on footpaths and expect pedestrians to give way.

Cyclists who may make excuses for the above behaviour.

Mister Vain · 07-11-2016 11:23PM

When you carefully overtake a cyclist only for them to skip to the front of the line at a traffic light a few minutes later. Then you have to overtake them again.

RainyDay · 07-11-2016 11:58PM

Mister Vain wrote: »

When you carefully overtake a cyclist only for them to skip to the front of the line at a traffic light a few minutes later. Then you have to overtake them again.

Why bother overtaking then? Just relax and wait behind the faster traffic.

The King of Moo · 08-11-2016 12:09AM

Mister Vain wrote: »

When you carefully overtake a cyclist only for them to skip to the front of the line at a traffic light a few minutes later. Then you have to overtake them again.

That's what they're supposed to do, to make sure they get away safely.

Commotion Ocean · 08-11-2016 12:15AM

People using sidelights at twilight

People indicating AFTER they've begun steering

People who take the first exit off a round about without indicating which causes me to stop unnecessarliy in anticipation of them crossing my path

People who hog the middle of overtaking lane

People who drive below the speed limit when conditions don't call for it

People who use bus lanes to skip traffic

Cyclists who skip red lights

People who don't let you out from an adjacent road (or let out too many people)

People who don't acknowledge you when you let them out

People who compensate a busted headlight with full heads on their one-eyed bandit

When I leave sufficient gap on front of me on motorway, people who fill this gap

People who drive down the overtaking lane then swerve like a bat out of hell to their exit and the last minute, sometimes without indicating or checking mirrors

People who don't merge properly onto motorways

Pac1Man · 08-11-2016 12:27AM

Whenever I am on a bike or driving a car, anytime I point my gun at the back of someone's head in a neighbouring car, they immediately speed away. How did they know what I was doing?

This is in GTA V by the way.

the14thwarrior · 08-11-2016 12:50AM

people that have stupid signs in the back of their cars.
the rain - after i've washed my car

the birds - doing their thing ON car and after i've washed it

people who won't let you reverse into a car spot, they get up your arse and think you can turn your car sideways on two wheels and reverse into a spot

people who think they can park and try to DRIVE into a car spot and spend the next ten minutes going back and forth in one position while you decide whether it's safe to go by them. and then they park, sticking out on the road and you have to turn your car sideways to avoid smashing into them

and cyclists. especially those who refuse to use the cycle lanes in the phoenix park, on one of the most dangerous roads and expect everyone to give them a wide berth

Pinch Flat · 08-11-2016 01:13AM

Mister Vain wrote: »

When you carefully overtake a cyclist only for them to skip to the front of the line at a traffic light a few minutes later. Then you have to overtake them again.

I had someone overtake me in a car earlier (I was cycling), then turned suddenly left into a turn across me. Except it was the wrong left, so they swerved out right again, just as I was passing them. Hi vis and extremely bright strobes, obviously not enough for the clowns that frequent our roads. I can never understand why cars overtake a cyclist at a junction, then turn suddenly left.

On the point of traffic lights, what do you expect a cyclist to do? If I was to wait behind every car stuck in a traffic jam it would take me hours to get to work. Cyclists can legally pass slow moving or stationary traffic on the left.

StinkyMunkey · 08-11-2016 01:40AM

Total lack of manners and ignoring the rules of the road. Some notable mentions:

Muppets driving with fog lights on

Cyclists with a death wish

Sunday drivers

Jembo in his 15yr old piece of **** thinking he is F1 driver

Gob****es texting or chatting on phone while driving

Inner city scum crossing the road playing chicken with you

Complete retards treating a housing estate like a race track

Militant cyclists, other people have the right to use the road

Idiots undertaking on motorway just to tailgate the guy in front of you

Morons who nearly cause pile up cause the miss exit on motorway and perform a totally retarded manoeuvre.

Bad lane discipline.

Ginger83 · 08-11-2016 01:53AM

Drivers that think every speed limit is a target.

Drivers who overtake forcing oncoming vehicles off the road onto the hard shoulder (someday 1 of those cars wont move over!)

learn_more · 08-11-2016 02:23AM

I think the main reason drivers complain about cyclists is not really because of all the rules they break but because there are just there in the first place, even if all of them stuck to the rules 100%. There are times when a driver cannot overtake simply because a cyclist is there, like when a bend is coming up. Cyclists just slow drivers down , even if they do nothing wrong. Noting worse than being slowed down, when your a motorist.

StinkyMunkey · 08-11-2016 02:41AM

learn_more wrote: »

I think the main reason drivers complain about cyclists is not really because of all the rules they break but because there are just there in the first place, even if all of them stuck to the rules 100%. There are times when a driver cannot overtake simply because a cyclist is there, like when a bend is coming up. Cyclists just slow drivers down , even if they do nothing wrong. Noting worse than being slowed down, when your a motorist.

I've seen a lot of very competent cyclists, I believe in good manners while using the road whether you be cyclist, car driver, pedestrians or any other road user. You mode of transport is unimportant, how you treat and interact with other road users is.

gammygils · 08-11-2016 02:50AM

People who drive behind me at night with full lights. WTF?
I drive a lot at night. And this is becoming more and more common. Even in the distance you just don't do it!!!!!

GrumpyMe · 08-11-2016 05:58AM

Mister Vain wrote: »

Then you have to overtake them again.

There's the "issue"- you don't HAVE TO overtake them!

Overtake if you wish but understand, and take comfort from the fact that, they "suffer" the same frustration - every time they pass you - you go on to pass them again.
That's life - sometimes the pigeon, sometimes the statue.

whoopsadoodles · 08-11-2016 06:35AM

On the parent and child space thing.

Not that some arseholes will give a fcuk, but I'll give my anecdote anyway.

I once parked my nissan micra in a supermarket carpark. There were no parent and child spots available which was fine.

Having done my shopping and arrived back to the car with my brand new baby in her rock a tot carry car seat, the man beside me had parked so close to my passenger door that I couldn't open it and definitely couldn't put my baby into the car.

He arrived back eventually and I pointed out how close he'd parked and he told me that life was hard sometimes and to get over it. I hadn't been rude to him at all, I was in fact a nervous wreck. He was just a prick.

My shiny new baby had been born just a week before and within days of the first anniversary of my other two children who had been killed in a car accident. I knew all too well how hard life could be.

I sat in my car and sobbed.

You can choose to be a cnut, or you can choose to actually think about whose life you might be making just that little bit more difficult.

Moral of the story; don't be a cnut.

For what it's worth, I think that once a child is able to hop in and out of the car themselves then you should be parking elsewhere.

mfceiling · 08-11-2016 06:46AM

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

On the parent and child space thing.

Not that some arseholes will give a fcuk, but I'll give my anecdote anyway.

I once parked my nissan micra in a supermarket carpark. There were no parent and child spots available which was fine.

Having done my shopping and arrived back to the car with my brand new baby in her rock a tot carry car seat, the man beside me had parked so close to my passenger door that I couldn't open it and definitely couldn't put my baby into the car.

He arrived back eventually and I pointed out how close he'd parked and he told me that life was hard sometimes and to get over it. I hadn't been rude to him at all, I was in fact a nervous wreck. He was just a prick.

My shiny new baby had been born just a week before and within days of the first anniversary of my other two children who had been killed in a car accident. I knew all too well how hard life could be.

I sat in my car and sobbed.

You can choose to be a cnut, or you can choose to actually think about whose life you might be making just that little bit more difficult.

Moral of the story; don't be a cnut.

For what it's worth, I think that once a child is able to hop in and out of the car themselves then you should be parking elsewhere.

Sorry to hear about your loss.

_Jamie_ · 08-11-2016 08:52AM

learn_more wrote: »

I think the main reason drivers complain about cyclists is not really because of all the rules they break but because there are just there in the first place, even if all of them stuck to the rules 100%.

Yep, there will always be motorists who complain about cyclists. Even if cyclists paid road tax. Even if cyclists required a licence. Even if every single cyclist followed every single rule of the road. If all these things happened, there would still be motorists moaning about them.

Because ultimately, there is a sizeable portion of motorists who believe cyclists should not be on the road. They are wrong on that, but they will never waver from that viewpoint. So they hide behind complaining about the mistakes some cyclists make. They need to build a bridge.

_Jamie_ · 08-11-2016 08:56AM

Jawgap wrote: »

Well it started with the status of child and parent spaces.....and especially the way some folks think they are of a similar status to disabled spaces, which they're not......

.....after that a procession of posters seemed to want to take issue with anyone dating to suggest that parents were anything other than deserving of preferential treatment when it comes to parking. I was simply making the point they're not, and child and parent spots are really just extra paint.

I think maybe you were hoping for and expecting more agreement with you here, that you'd tap into a stream of people with a similar simmering resentment towards parents and their kids but in reality you are just coming across petty and sanctimonious. And I say this as a childless person. All I can I say is that you have little to be bothering you!

pajero12 · 08-11-2016 09:00AM

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

On the parent and child space thing.

Not that some arseholes will give a fcuk, but I'll give my anecdote anyway.

I once parked my nissan micra in a supermarket carpark. There were no parent and child spots available which was fine.

Having done my shopping and arrived back to the car with my brand new baby in her rock a tot carry car seat, the man beside me had parked so close to my passenger door that I couldn't open it and definitely couldn't put my baby into the car.

He arrived back eventually and I pointed out how close he'd parked and he told me that life was hard sometimes and to get over it. I hadn't been rude to him at all, I was in fact a nervous wreck. He was just a prick.

My shiny new baby had been born just a week before and within days of the first anniversary of my other two children who had been killed in a car accident. I knew all too well how hard life could be.

I sat in my car and sobbed.

You can choose to be a cnut, or you can choose to actually think about whose life you might be making just that little bit more difficult.

Moral of the story; don't be a cnut.

For what it's worth, I think that once a child is able to hop in and out of the car themselves then you should be parking elsewhere.

So Sorry to hear about your loss!

whisky_galore · 08-11-2016 09:07AM

Inability to use indicators.

Baby of Board signs (and their unfunny derivatives, Little Princess of Board, Mini Man U Fan on Board etc.)
Yes, you can reproduce, would you like a medal?

OldMrBrennan83 · 08-11-2016 09:07AM

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Brian? · 08-11-2016 09:14AM

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Using the brake instead of just decelerating in time

The brake is for emergencies or bringing a car to a stop

Not when you drive an auto.

Road issues that irritate me.......

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