2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

Phoebas · 06-11-2016 11:11AM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

You ignored the eye witness account also of what actually happened.

What actually happened was that there was no assassination attempt.
So there couldn't have been an eye witness account of an assassination attempt, because you can't see something that didn't occur.

There were mistaken accounts - like yours.

I guess I could have said it looks like someone tried to shoot Trump, would that have made you happier?

It didn't look like that - there was nobody trying to shoot Trump and there was no gun.
There was someone who wrongly claimed to have seen a gun, and some active imaginations.

brevity · 06-11-2016 11:12AM

Trump would be terrible for America. As bad as Clinton is, Trump would be worse.

I think both parties should be ashamed at the candidates the have running for President. The fact that the Democratic candidate is struggling against someone like Trump speaks volumes.

TheCitizen · 06-11-2016 11:13AM

brickmauser wrote: »

Look who she associates with:

- Anthony Weiner who sends dick pics to underage girls

- Huma Abbedin the wife of Weiner and Clinton's reputed lesbian lover her "body woman" whose parents are high ranking Muslim Brotherhood members associated with Saudi Wahhabists and the global jihadist network.

- John Podesta who attends "spirit cooking" black magick style parties hosted by Serbian witch Marina Abramovic where blood and semen are eaten and has been caught red handed arranging to attend pedophile pool parties.

- Her husband Bill Clinton a serial rapist who flew on billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein's Lolita Express private plane to his private Caribbean island where under age girls recruited by Robert Maxwell's daughter and other socialites were forced to have sex with powerful figures such as Prince Andrew and Alan Dershowitz among others. Dershowitz infamously defended both Von Below and Simpson and gave legal council to the Bush administration.

Hillary Clinton's Clinton Foundation is massively funded by corporations and Arab Muslim governments to the tune of millions of dollars.
This money was given to her while she was Secretary of State and supposedly fighting the war on terror. Strangely jihadists have taken control in Libya Syria and Iraq on her watch.

Hillary is clearly a monster - she accompanied her husband to Epstein's rape island on his rape jet - she associates with perverts and she is guilty of massive corruption and war crimes.

Would you really vote for this evil psychopathic witch?

Even if that was all true she's still a better pick than Trump.

brickmauser · 06-11-2016 11:14AM

The Hill Billy wrote: »

Guilt by association is a pathetic argument, particularly when you look at the other option.

If you delve a little deeper you might be surprisd who qualified for bonus air miles for flying on the 'rape jet' to the 'rape island'.

Yes Trump.
He is a project for a later day but on scales of evil Hillary eclipses him.
For the reasons I listed.
What associations though!
You would forgive maybe one association that was distantly connected.
But key people in her camp?
People right at the heart of her inner circle?
You have to start seeing a disturbing pattern of monstrous associations.
Trump's pussy grabbing and peeping tom carry on a beauty contests and other sleazy carry on pales in comparison.

Hank Scorpio · 06-11-2016 11:16AM

brickmauser wrote: »

It is utterly tragic.

The rape case where she laughed about getting the guy off was disgusting too. A 12 year old girl.. Advocates for women, give me a break.

brickmauser · 06-11-2016 11:20AM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

The rape case where she laughed about getting the guy off was disgusting too. A 12 year old girl.. Advocates for women, give me a break.

How is this not more widely known?

It's mind boggling that this has not been covered.

Gaddafi had it coming but to actually throw her head back and laugh "We came we saw he died" after the man literally died with a knife up his hole is nuts. i don't think Truman and Eisenhower gloated when Hitler blew his brains out?

The Hill Billy · 06-11-2016 11:20AM

Typical Trumpish diversion tactics TBH.
Flood social medial with all manner of half-truths & outlandish claims, then "Yeah, I know he's no angel, but she's the devil, etc, etc..."
Pathetic & amateurish, but unfortunately these tactics work on people of a certain intelligence level.

Igotadose · 06-11-2016 11:23AM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Anyway, here is a great piece by Abby Martin on John Podesta.

Abby Martin, RT employee, presenting on US 'politics.' What, Putin wasn't available for commentary?

Sad - no one to pull for Trump these days except Russian tools

Hank Scorpio · 06-11-2016 11:24AM

@Phoebus

You said Trump supporters beat him up because he's a Republican that didn't agree with them.

I posted context that this wasn't the case, he was beat up because he was shoving people over trying to get to the front to heckle Trump.

I'm not going to continue the argument over my reaction to the secret service covering Trump and telling him to run. I believe it's natural to instinctively think someone had a gun, you don't. That's fine.

joe_99 · 06-11-2016 11:24AM

brickmauser wrote: »

How is this not more widely known?

It's mind boggling that this has not been covered.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/10/donald-trump/trump-says-clinton-laughed-about-rape-case/

Been covered a hundred times. Let's not let facts get in the way.

BoJack Horseman · 06-11-2016 11:25AM

The Hill Billy wrote: »

but unfortunately these tactics work on people of a certain intelligence level.

F*cking plebs eh!
They should listen to what their betters tell them.

conditioned games · 06-11-2016 11:25AM

TheCitizen wrote: »

Even if that was all true she's still a better pick than Trump.

Trump has his faults but is way a better option. He wants to protect the falling living standards of the middle class, work with Russia to fight ISIS instead of starting a war against them and China, stop the flow of illegal immigrants, fight the flow of illegal drugs into the country, eliminate lobbying by special interests in Washington and get America off the life support of massive debt creation. At this stage he offers the better solution.

SterlingArcher · 06-11-2016 11:26AM

She would have been trounced had the other option not been Trump.

I seriously wonder about people that have turned a blind eye to Clintons evils that have left countries in ruin. cost hundreds of thousands of lives in exchange for corporate dollars . lybia?? Haiti?. If thats an example of her leadership skills. The writings on the wall. Lives for $$$.

Yet the same people chanting Clinton with the blinkers on. condemn Trump for his buffoon remarks.

Guess talking nonsense hurting people's feelings matters more than actually taking peoples lives.

BoJack Horseman · 06-11-2016 11:27AM

conditioned games wrote: »

Trump has his faults but is way a better option. He wants to protect the falling living standards of the middle class, work with Russia to fight ISIS instead of starting a war against them and China, stop the flow of illegal immigrants, fight the flow of illegal drugs into the country, eliminate lobbying by special interests in Washington and get America off the life support of massive debt creation. At this stage he offers the better solution.

No no no..... The world needs Hillary and her war with Russia.

Trump opposing that & preferring to work with Russia is only for the cretins remember?

The Hill Billy wrote: »

these tactics work on people of a certain intelligence level

Phoebas · 06-11-2016 11:32AM

@Hank

That's fine. You claimed there was an assassination attempt. Your imagination got the better of you. You claimed that all 100k people watching made the same mistake. Again, an over active imagination. No problem. Time to move on.

brickmauser · 06-11-2016 11:34AM

The Hill Billy wrote: »

Typical Trumpish diversion tactics TBH.
Flood social medial with all manner of half-truths & outlandish claims, then "Yeah, I know he's no angel, but she's the devil, etc, etc..."
Pathetic & amateurish, but unfortunately these tactics work on people of a certain intelligence level.

I challenge you to fact check everything I said.
Abbedin is imbedded with the Muslim Brotherhood.
Why was Clinton on Epstein's rape plane and rape island?
Why is Podesta mixed up with the Serbian witch?
Why is Hillary associating with these freaks?
Why is she talking money while Secretary of State from rich Arabs and at the same time jihadists - trained in Jordan by US special forces or released from Gitmo - are running amok?

Work it out genius

Nody · 06-11-2016 11:35AM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

F*cking plebs eh!
They should listen to what their betters tell them.

Well if the Brexit campaign and the "We need no experts telling us things" is anything to go by; yes very much so seeing how many lies were believed...

BoJack Horseman · 06-11-2016 11:37AM

Nody wrote: »

Well if the Brexit campaign and the "We need no experts telling us things" is anything to go by; yes very much so seeing how many lies were believed...

How would you lads ensure that only people deemed by you intelligent enough to vote get to do so?

We can't have those "of a certain intelligence level" (as said above) spoiling what needs to happen do we!?

Hank Scorpio · 06-11-2016 11:38AM

The Hill Billy wrote: »

but unfortunately these tactics work on people of a certain intelligence level.

I had no real interest in Politics until this election with no affiliation to either side and these type of insults seem to come up a lot from extreme Clinton supporters whenever her integrity is questioned ( which it should be, she's under multiple criminal investigations ).

Middle class America are now of low iq and have been fooled by the Donald is that what you're implying? Half of America is dumb for supporting Trump? Hillary and her team target minorities by brian-washing them with her control of the media and portray Trump as the second coming of Hitler, imo she does worse things for race relations than anybody else.

Nody · 06-11-2016 11:40AM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

How would you lads ensure that only people deemed by you intelligent enough to vote get to do so?

We can't have those "of a certain intelligence level" (as said above) spoiling what needs to happen do we!?

That one is easy enough; people who are stupid enough to vote in the likes of Trump or hard Brexit will be the once who suffer the most from it due to the lack of mobility and marketable skills. As the healthcare is cut, social service payments are reduced etc. that tend to sort things out naturally one way or the other (the ideals of the American dream is dead of working hard and becoming rich; the sooner that's accepted by the low to middle class and starts to deal with their actual reality of low tax for high income takers and no trickle down economics the better; now that will come one way or the other be it from revolution, disgust or simply starting to think on their own rather than watch another MTV See my Crib show and dream that it will be them one day).

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

I had no real interest in Politics until this election with no affiliation to either side and these type of insults seem to come up a lot from extreme Clinton supporters whenever her integrity is questioned ( which it should be, she's under multiple criminal investigations ).

As is Trump with the difference there's a clear record of him using illegal ways to pay his way out of them from his "charity" fund and the fact he's actually sued to court over multiple cases.

SterlingArcher · 06-11-2016 11:44AM

The Hill Billy wrote: »

Typical Trumpish diversion tactics TBH.
Flood social medial with all manner of half-truths & outlandish claims, then "Yeah, I know he's no angel, but she's the devil, etc, etc..."
Pathetic & amateurish, but unfortunately these tactics work on people of a certain intelligence level.

Even regardless of the rape jet collusion with unsavory characters.

You would need to do some serious mental gymnastics to ignore her tenure as Secretary of state.

Like a person who could pretend like that was all just in some Trumpish imagination would have to be bordering on a Clinton Zealot.

The Hill Billy · 06-11-2016 11:44AM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

F*cking plebs eh!
They should listen to what their betters tell them.

That's not what I said or implied at all.

Phoebas · 06-11-2016 11:44AM

Claiming that Trump supporters are dumb = Insulting.
Claiming that Clinton supporters are brain washed = OK.

BoJack Horseman · 06-11-2016 11:45AM

The Hill Billy wrote: »

That's not what I said

Something wrong with the quote function then.... you should look into that.

BoJack Horseman · 06-11-2016 11:48AM

Nody wrote: »

That one is easy enough; people who are stupid enough to vote in the likes of Trump or hard Brexit will be the once who suffer the most from it due to the lack of mobility and marketable skills. As the healthcare is cut, social service payments are reduced etc. that tend to sort things out naturally one way or the other.

That's retrospective though.
Sure, it may purge your hated dumb-dumbs.... thin out their herd (as you allude).

You don't fix your problem of having the folks you deem too simple voting in the first place.
Retrospective punishment doesn't stop the damage done by those you deem simpletons not voting the way you want...

So, how you stop the ones you deem not smart enough to vote correctly from doing so in the first place?

You know... prevention is better than cure.

brevity · 06-11-2016 11:49AM

conditioned games wrote: »

Trump has his faults but is way a better option. He wants to protect the falling living standards of the middle class, work with Russia to fight ISIS instead of starting a war against them and China, stop the flow of illegal immigrants, fight the flow of illegal drugs into the country, eliminate lobbying by special interests in Washington and get America off the life support of massive debt creation. At this stage he offers the better solution.

Trump is a psycho that cannot believe he has got this far.

Trump doesn't give a **** about the middle class. He is a liar and a cheat that boasts about sexually assaulting women and has issues with free speech. Anyone thinking he is good for America or anywhere needs their head examined.

Hank Scorpio · 06-11-2016 11:49AM

Phoebas wrote: »

Claiming that Trump supporters are dumb = Insulting.
Claiming that Clinton supporters are brain washed = OK.

Targeted may have been a better choice of word but it's just politically correct poo poo.

Hank Scorpio · 06-11-2016 11:51AM

No worries.. I don't feel too bad, the MSM made the same mistake.

Oafley Jones · 06-11-2016 11:53AM

brickmauser wrote: »

Look who she associates with:

- Anthony Weiner who sends dick pics to underage girls

- Huma Abbedin the wife of Weiner and Clinton's reputed lesbian lover her "body woman" whose parents are high ranking Muslim Brotherhood members associated with Saudi Wahhabists and the global jihadist network.

- John Podesta who attends "spirit cooking" black magick style parties hosted by Serbian witch Marina Abramovic where blood and semen are eaten and has been caught red handed arranging to attend pedophile pool parties.

- Her husband Bill Clinton a serial rapist who flew on billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein's Lolita Express private plane to his private Caribbean island where under age girls recruited by Robert Maxwell's daughter and other socialites were forced to have sex with powerful figures such as Prince Andrew and Alan Dershowitz among others. Dershowitz infamously defended both Von Below and Simpson and gave legal council to the Bush administration.

Hillary Clinton's Clinton Foundation is massively funded by corporations and Arab Muslim governments to the tune of millions of dollars.
This money was given to her while she was Secretary of State and supposedly fighting the war on terror. Strangely jihadists have taken control in Libya Syria and Iraq on her watch.

Hillary is clearly a monster - she accompanied her husband to Epstein's rape island on his rape jet - she associates with perverts and she is guilty of massive corruption and war crimes.

Would you really vote for this evil psychopathic witch?

I like these posts (and those who like them) because it's a handy guide as to the who's who of their odd little reality.

The Hill Billy · 06-11-2016 11:54AM

Goddammit, you folk are right & I apologise. As you rightly say, Trump supporters come with a background of all levels of education & I unequivocally accept that they are not dumb or necessarily of low intelligence.

'Gullible' would be a better description.

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