2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

FISMA. · 04-11-2016 12:20AM

Uh oh. Philly Transit Strike

It's hard to believe that Pa is a difficult win for Trump, given its excellent 2nd Amendment. But then there's Philly.

Looks like the Demo's better get this strike settled. No mass transit on an election day would be a disaster for Clinton.

Even with buses, she cannot expect the turnout Obama had.

FISMA. · 04-11-2016 12:39AM

Overheal wrote: »

And NC is back to Clinton leaning

Early voting already up by 10% wrt 2012.

Obamacare premiums going up 40%-50% NC.

Cause & effect? We'll soon see.

alastair · 04-11-2016 01:11AM

walshyn93 wrote: »

Are you saying the Democratic Party hasnt changed since the 80s? A laughable suggestion.

Indeed, but one you introduced, and not anything I claimed.

BorneTobyWilde · 04-11-2016 01:14AM

Funny feed blip on CNN
Conway on there with Anderson via link,
'' we have a democratic nominee who says she's going to fucck for women and children''

Suppose to be fight, but feed fell for 1/2 second so came out clear as day as fucck ''

I had to look around at tv to see what the hell did she just say.
I rewind it and it was a feed blip that turned word fight into fucck/

ancapailldorcha · 04-11-2016 01:24AM

The Economist has released a PDF guide to the election for anyone interested.

aloyisious · 04-11-2016 01:35AM

Pennsylvania, N/C and Florida are the major state battlegrounds over the next days and seem to be seen by both camps as swing states. New Hampshire might be a loser for Don. It's really too close to call now despite the polls, what with the TV news shows doing on-street interviews of voters. Hillary has Bernie stumping N/C for her. Melania might just persuade some female voters to vote for Don, she's playing the Immigrant card on how getting into the US is seen as a hope for improvement.

mrkiscool2 · 04-11-2016 01:37AM

aloyisious wrote: »

Pennsylvania, N/C and Florida are the major state battlegrounds over the next days and seem to be seen by both camps as swing states. New Hampshire might be a loser for Don. It's really too close to call now despite the polls, what with the TV news shows doing on-street interviews of voters. Hillary has Bernie stumping N/C for her.

Nevada and N/C definitely but Florida over the last week has only been heading one way and in the last week Trump has had his chances over double in NH.

rossie1977 · 04-11-2016 02:25AM

Sanders got more people to his rallies than either trump or clinton and Clinton still ended up beating him by more than 3 million votes in the primaries. I see those comparison pics on twitter all the time but fact is most of these rallies are in small venues

Iceboy wrote: »

This woman (Donna Brazille) is a Disgrace to the Country. She is a Fraud, a Liar, and should be prosecuted with Hillary, she was caught in the wikileaks red handed giving heads up question to Hilary before live televison debates. They all need to go to jail!

Not just jail..the death penalty!

The fact that in 2016 in the usa, supporters of one candidate are calling for the imprisonment of their political opponents tells you everything you need to know.

aloyisious · 04-11-2016 02:35AM

Don has gotten support from two sources that he'd rather not, one he'd disavowed, David Dukes. The other is the KKK newspaper. Duke, who is running for US Senate in Louisiana, has, like many other white nationalists, been a vocal supporter of Donald Trump during the 2016 election. Duke, a heavy underdog in that race, reaffirmed his support for Trump during a debate with his opponents on Wednesday night.

Eric Trump fell for the old trick of a radio host's prompt-suggestion when the host interviewing him suggested DD deserves a bullet to the head. Eric agreed saying that DD deserves a bullet. Clarification will follow but the quote is out there.

Melanie will probably try to keep Don away from mic's for a day or so to avoid an outburst from him causing loss of votes.

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwid5OXu9o3QAhXLB8AKHeLuB1gQqQIIHTAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2016%2F11%2F03%2Fpolitics%2Feric-trump-on-david-duke%2F&usg=AFQjCNGQOdYJ3MqqES-AlpgLvaG-TUtayQ

While she was at a rally earlier in the night, Hillary brought up Don's reported links with DD. Taken along with Barak's quotes while he's stumping for her in Florida about Don, it look's like the Dems have recognized over the past three or so days that the black vote isn't a sure thing for the Dems, something TV news interviews have revealed.

4068ac1elhodqr · 04-11-2016 02:43AM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Funny feed blip on CNN
Conway on there with Anderson via link... Suppose to be fight, but feed fell for 1/2 second so came out clear as day as fucck ''

Heard that also and thought 'that can't be right'. Apart from that, she isn't doing a bad job.

Seen an extract of the Mr Lasagna interview due to be broadcast this Saturday, apparently Julian himself thinks HC has it in the bag, as DT is too much of a risk.

walshyn93 · 04-11-2016 08:53AM

alastair wrote: »

Indeed, but one you introduced, and not anything I claimed.

You said the parties hadn't changed, only the GOP. This would imply that other parties have stayed the same. Are you walking this back now?

walshyn93 · 04-11-2016 08:55AM

rossie1977 wrote: »

Sanders got more people to his rallies than either trump or clinton and Clinton still ended up beating him by more than 3 million votes in the primaries. I see those comparison pics on twitter all the time but fact is most of these rallies are in small venues

Not just jail..the death penalty!

The fact that in 2016 in the usa, supporters of one candidate are calling for the imprisonment of their political opponents tells you everything you need to know.

Sanders lost because he didn't have name recognition and people weren't sure he would beat Trump.

walshyn93 · 04-11-2016 09:26AM

Clinton once again having a go at Trumps supporters, i.e. half the country.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=544677445737437&id=424741777731005

I'm curious to know if Trump has ever had a go at your average Clinton supporter, not her donors or operatives.

alastair · 04-11-2016 09:44AM

walshyn93 wrote: »

Clinton once again having a go at Trumps supporters, i.e. half the country.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=544677445737437&id=424741777731005

I'm curious to know if Trump has ever had a go at your average Clinton supporter, not her donors or operatives.

Not to worry - Trump has previously identified the Hillary base, and given us a clear description:

"Her supporters have very little enthusiasm. The only people enthusiastic about her campaign are Hollywood celebrities — in many cases celebrities that aren’t very hot anymore — and Wall Street donors, special interests, lobbyists, etcetera that want to control government, not to the benefit of our country, but to the benefit of their wallet.”

walshyn93 · 04-11-2016 09:57AM

What's with the poorly written code in podestas emails? There's no way this is not describing something illicit.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/30613

Miss you Herb. Happy Holidays and see you in 2016.

On Thursday, December 24, 2015, Sandler, Herbert <hms@sandlerfoundation.org>
wrote:

> Mary and John
>
> I think you should give notice when changing strategies which have been
> long in place. I immediately realized something was different by the shape
> of the box and I contemplated who would be sending me something in the
> square shaped box. Lo and behold, instead of pasta and wonderful sauces, it
> was a lovely, tempting assortment of cheeses, Yummy. I am awaiting the
> return of my children and grandchildren from their holiday travels so that
> we can demolish them.
>
> Thank you so much. I hope you and your gang are well.
>
> I miss you both
>
> Best wishes fro a merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
>
> Herb
>
>
>
> Ps. Do you think I’ll do better playing dominos on cheese than on pasta?

walshyn93 · 04-11-2016 09:59AM

alastair wrote: »

Not to worry - Trump has previously identified the Hillary base, and given us a clear description:

Yeah so has he attacked average Joe's who are supporting her or just the celebrities and special interests?

Blatter · 04-11-2016 09:59AM

I suppose the key to this election and Trump's chances is if he can get more working class white male voters to turn out in bigger number than they usually do. If he gets any sort of a sizable increase he can win.

Not easy to predict at all. This election has been so weird and 'out there' that it could spark an unusually high turnout. Or maybe it will be a similar turnout to previous elections!

Christy42 · 04-11-2016 10:02AM

walshyn93 wrote: »

Clinton once again having a go at Trumps supporters, i.e. half the country.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=544677445737437&id=424741777731005

I'm curious to know if Trump has ever had a go at your average Clinton supporter, not her donors or operatives.

Trump has insulted women (more than 50% of the population), muslims, veterans, Mexican's and men (by saying all men talk like that )

He has literally insulted everyone in the world.

alastair · 04-11-2016 10:02AM

walshyn93 wrote: »

Yeah so has he attacked average Joe's who are supporting her or just the celebrities and special interests?

Seemingly Hillary doesn't have any 'ordinary Joe' supporters - just celebs who aren't hot any more.

walshyn93 · 04-11-2016 10:13AM

Christy42 wrote: »

Trump has insulted women (more than 50% of the population), muslims, veterans, Mexican's and men (by saying all men talk like that )

He has literally insulted everyone in the world.

Only in SJW land where an attack on one is an attack on all.

Christy42 · 04-11-2016 10:21AM

walshyn93 wrote: »

Only in SJW land where an attack on one is an attack on all.

If you insult a woman for being a woman then logic dictates that this insult could be applied to all women. Therefore you are insulting them.

Equally insulting someone for being a Trump supporter insults all Trump supporters.

Omy · 04-11-2016 10:25AM

Christy42 wrote: »

If you insult a woman for being a woman then logic dictates that this insult could be applied to all women. Therefore you are insulting them.

Equally insulting someone for being a Trump supporter insults all Trump supporters.

So if I say the KKK endorsement of trump is the support of racist evil and dangerous people, I therefore insult all Trump surporters? Interesting logic!

Christy42 · 04-11-2016 10:40AM

Omy wrote: »

So if I say the KKK endorsement of trump is the support of racist evil and dangerous people, I therefore insult all Trump surporters? Interesting logic!

No. You have twisted my logic beyond belief. If you say the KKK are evil because they support Trump then yes you are calling all Trump support evil.

If you call the KKK evil because they are racists (which is what you do in your example) then you insult the KKK and other racists and not other Trump supporters.

If you insult someone for having a trait then you can expect anyone who shares that trait to take offense. Whether you care about this is another thing, for instance I will happily insult someone for being a racist and not really care that other racists might take offense (as I would repeat the insult to them as well).

If you insult a women saying she can't have proper judgement if she is on her period like Trump did then surely the same logic applies to any woman on her period.

BoJack Horseman · 04-11-2016 10:52AM

A former head of the UK armed forces echoing some boardsie sentiment that Clinton's Russia war push should be avoided:

“Unless she’s prepared to do this properly and go to war with Russia, she shouldn’t talk about no-fly zones and nor should we. We would have to shoot down Russian aircraft in order to impose it. Do we really want to go to a shooting war over Aleppo?

“We want the humanitarian horror of Aleppo to come to a rapid halt. The best and quickest way of doing that is to encourage the opposition groups to leave.

“The alternative is for the West to declare a no-fly zone and that means you’ve got to be prepared to go to war with Russia ultimately.

walshyn93 · 04-11-2016 11:01AM

Christy42 wrote: »

If you insult a woman for being a woman then logic dictates that this insult could be applied to all women. Therefore you are insulting them.

Equally insulting someone for being a Trump supporter insults all Trump supporters.

When's the last time someone was insulted purely because they're a woman?

Are you sure it has nothing to do with the woman herself?

walshyn93 · 04-11-2016 11:03AM

Christy42 wrote: »

If you insult a women saying she can't have proper judgement if she is on her period like Trump did then surely the same logic applies to any woman on her period.

When did anyone say that? Are you sure you're not taking liberties with your interpretation?

If you're talking about Megyn Kelly. How was that a question of judgement? Are you just making things up as you go along based on half remembered soundbites?

20Cent · 04-11-2016 11:04AM

walshyn93 wrote: »

Clinton once again having a go at Trumps supporters, i.e. half the country.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=544677445737437&id=424741777731005

I'm curious to know if Trump has ever had a go at your average Clinton supporter, not her donors or operatives.

I saw the full part of that clip. Clinton had someone screaming abuse at her from the crowd. That bit was cut from the clip. It is edited to in order to make Clinton sound deranged, cropped to take away the context. Whoever edited it thinks his/her audience is digitally illiterate or just dumb. He/she is right.

walshyn93 · 04-11-2016 11:06AM

20Cent wrote: »

I saw the full part of that clip. Clinton had someone screaming abuse at her from the crowd. That bit was cut from the clip. It is edited to in order to make Clinton sound deranged, cropped to take away the context. Whoever edited it thinks his/her audience is digitally illiterate or just dumb. He/she is right.

How is that an excuse to go on a tirade about Trump supporters as a whole?

How does digital literacy come into this? I tried asking my minder who I dictate these posts to and she has no idea what you're on about either.

Why don't you post the full clip since I'm so digitally illiterate and need you to find it, and we'll see if the context makes it any better, smartypants.

alastair · 04-11-2016 11:16AM

walshyn93 wrote: »

How is that an excuse to go on a tirade about Trump supporters as a whole?

"As a whole"?

Perhaps you can post up the bit where she specifies that this description applies to every Trump supporter? Because I must have missed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W9oxStBtHE

Christy42 · 04-11-2016 11:16AM

walshyn93 wrote: »

When's the last time someone was insulted purely because they're a woman?

Are you sure it has nothing to do with the woman herself?

He didn't say anything to do with the woman specifically. He said it was because of her period. How else am I meant to interpret that?

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