The Garda Strike

SEPT 23 1989 · 03-11-2016 06:08PM

I presume union spokesman ingrid miley will announce an end to this on the six one news

AllGunsBlazing · 03-11-2016 06:17PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I presume union spokesman ingrid miley will announce an end to this on the six one news

Have they come to an agreement?

SEPT 23 1989 · 03-11-2016 06:18PM

Just listening to this now

18 units asked to work

There will no protection for ordinary citizens against low level crime

suicide_circus · 03-11-2016 06:21PM

Bambi wrote: »

Property crash of 2008

Lot of the lads lost their bollix in that I'd say.

an awful lot of gardai became landlords during the boom

SEPT 23 1989 · 03-11-2016 06:22PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

an awful lot of gardai became landlords during the boom

Gardai were always landlords with multiple properties

CatFromHue · 03-11-2016 06:25PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

There will no protection for ordinary citizens against low level crime

Let's be realistic, that's no different than any other day.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 03-11-2016 06:25PM

What a ****ing country.

Mr.Micro · 03-11-2016 06:25PM

It's an absolute joke An Garda playing the poor mouth. They are well paid for what they do, plus allowances for this and that. Overhaul they whole force and see exactly what each individual does or does not do. Then pay according to merit and ability. Do their jobs and be glad to have one.

AllGunsBlazing · 03-11-2016 06:25PM

Good thing I haven't returned my Batman costume just yet. Somebody has to take up the slack.

suicide_circus · 03-11-2016 06:26PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Gardai were always landlords with multiple properties

wonder how they managed that on their low pay?

SEPT 23 1989 · 03-11-2016 06:28PM

CatFromHue wrote: »

Let's be realistic, that's no different than any other day.

You can ring 999 but they won't respond unless you are an ex president or a leading actor in the Hutch Kinehan fued

No traffic cops either

Ted111 · 03-11-2016 06:29PM

Anyone interested in forming a vigilante mob.

We'll need a name. And maybe a costume. Or should we be undercover?

SEPT 23 1989 · 03-11-2016 06:30PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

wonder how they managed that on their low pay?

I'm a local garda Mr local bank manager

How much do you need guard?

Mr.Micro · 03-11-2016 06:31PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Gardai were always landlords with multiple properties

Many of the Gardai in our town,when I was growing up, had 2-3 properties as well as their own house. There is no such thing as a poor Garda.

Mr.Micro · 03-11-2016 06:33PM

CatFromHue wrote: »

Let's be realistic, that's no different than any other day.

Nobody will notice. They will probably miss playing cards and pool.

Galwayguy35 · 03-11-2016 07:48PM

pah wrote: »

Never met a rich one either.

I know plenty of people with multiple properties, not just guards.

Facts are that rates of pay have been reduced by at least 15 % due to pension levies, USC and a direct paycut.

Everybody had to take pay cuts and has to pay the USC, may people lost their jobs and businesses went to the wall.

ThisRegard · 03-11-2016 07:49PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I presume union spokesman ingrid miley will announce an end to this on the six one news

You weren't far off.

suicide_circus · 03-11-2016 07:49PM

pah wrote: »

Never met a rich one either.

I know plenty of people with multiple properties, not just guards.

Facts are that rates of pay have been reduced by at least 15 % due to pension levies, USC and a direct paycut.

this wasn't done for a laugh though, there was a serious recession on which we've only just come out of and which we could be plunged back into any minute

Allinall · 03-11-2016 07:50PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Everybody had to take pay cuts and has to pay the USC, may people lost their jobs and businesses went to the wall.

Not everyone had to take pay cuts.

Spiro66 · 03-11-2016 07:53PM

Don'

Lackey · 03-11-2016 07:55PM

Guards must feel like their pissing against the wind.
Doing their jobs putting criminals infront of a judge 60plus times only to catch them and put them back in front of the same judge for the same crime 61 plus times.
They deserve more money just for dealing with that sh#te alone.

AllGunsBlazing · 03-11-2016 08:07PM

There's definitely a couple of housing estates around my way that could be very dicey after the sun goes down tomorrow evening. Not that they're all that great even at the best of times - but knowing that there wont be any squad cars being called out will embolden quite a few.

Edit: Anyone know the exact beginning and end time for the strike?

Jimbob1977 · 03-11-2016 08:12PM

Ted111 wrote: »

Anyone interested in forming a vigilante mob.

We'll need a name. And maybe a costume. Or should we be undercover?

'Petty vandalism such as graffiti is down 80%, while heavy sack beatings are up a shocking 900%.' The Simpsons

AllGunsBlazing · 03-11-2016 08:15PM

People can come up with statistics to prove anything. Forty percent of all people know that.

03-11-2016 08:18PM

pah wrote: »

I hear a lot of "They knew what they signed up for" Fair enough they did and they expected to be paid X for it. Now they are being paid X- 15% for the last four years
Do they not have cause to air their grievances?

So back then the average pay for a Garda was €70k?? 15% my hole.

sdanseo · 03-11-2016 08:21PM

Mr.Micro wrote: »

Many of the Gardai in our town,when I was growing up, had 2-3 properties as well as their own house. There is no such thing as a poor Garda.

That was then, this is now.

It takes 8 years as a Garda before you hit €40,000 (considerably less than the average industrial wage*). They start on €24,000 - that's an impossibly small amount of money to support any kind of family with. A receptionist worth his or her salt earns more. That's not taking into account the fact that 10% of the force is assaulted every year.

*2013 source

03-11-2016 08:23PM

sdanseo wrote: »

That was then, this is now.

It takes 8 years as a Garda before you hit €40,000 (considerably less than the average industrial wage*). That's not taking into account the fact that 10% of the force is assaulted every year.

*2013 source

The average industrial wage is above 40k? Lie.

€40k plus allowances equals...? Why just give the base rate when such a large amount is made up of allowances? Do you lose your rent allowance after 8 years? No? Then why not include it?

Allinall · 03-11-2016 08:23PM

Sergio Georgini wrote: »

So back then the average pay for a Garda was €70k?? 15% my hole.

I'd love to see your calculations for that one.

03-11-2016 08:25PM

Allinall wrote: »

I'd love to see your calculations for that one.

Indo today, CSO - Avg pay today is 62k. +15% =?

Little CuChulainn · 03-11-2016 08:41PM

I was bored so I worked out the average earnings of a Garda with 10 years experience excluding overtime assuming they take all days leave and work 7 public holidays during the year.

Salary 42,138
Rent Allowance 4153.30
Uniform allowance 380
Night and weekend allowance 9193
Public holiday allowance 1134

Total = 57k

Pension Levy = 3,841

Total = 53k

Hope that helps. For those trying to compare the old pay to the new pay, you would have to take into account the new roster which includes much more night and weekend shifts than the old one so the shift allowances would have been lower in the old roster. Also Gardaí work an extra 2 hours every public holiday now compared to the old roster so the old public allowance payment would have been lower too.

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