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The Garda Strike

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 676 ✭✭✭Edups


    Didn't see a thread on this but if I was a criminal i'd be preparing for Christmas.

    A one day strike... you realise they'll just find you the day after?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭fizzypish


    Sucks to be a guard or nurse if you joined up in the last 10 (?) years. They should be getting more money but is the money even there? Anyway, makes little difference to me or mine. If we get in trouble theres a minimum of 30 minutes till they get to the home place. Welcome to the thunder dome!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,365 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Is the strike off?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    THE PURGE IS COMING!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 102 ✭✭Kadser


    Ronald Reagan would have sacked the lot of them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭TOEJOE


    Kadser wrote: »
    Ronald Reagan would have sacked the lot of them.
    And look what happened to him,bang bang.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Is the strike off?

    Not a chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Hope they get a pay restoration as they deserve it. Pretty bad pay for the job they do.

    I think the strike option was the wrong one. If they refused to issue summonses and refused to collect fines they would hit the Govt in the pocket and the courts would be ineffective. That would get the attention of the Govt much quicker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,730 ✭✭✭AllGunsBlazing


    Something on six one about rank and file rejecting a new offer? Only got the tail end of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    I see the "Government Commissioner" now demanding that the garda turn up for work on Friday.
    I say Government Commissioner because that's what she is and not a Garda Commissioner, looking after her buddies instead of her garda force.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    If you live in a rural area it's no difference if they strike for a week, you'd never see a Guard anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    I see the "Government Commissioner" now demanding that the garda turn up for work on Friday.
    I say Government Commissioner because that's what she is and not a Garda Commissioner, looking after her buddies instead of her garda force.



    Not the right way to be going about getting a solution is it ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭testaccount123


    If you live in a rural area it's no difference if they strike for a week, you'd never see a Guard anyway.

    Dont live in a rural area then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Time for a clear out of the ould guard(s) methinks

    A second law enforcement outfit moseying on into town would do no harm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,377 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    I support the right to strike and the right to industrial action for all workers. I do believe that a Garda strike will lead to chaos, especially in the big cities and on the roads. The government should be ashamed that it's come to this, but it's typical half arsed brinksmanship.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Something on six one about rank and file rejecting a new offer? Only got the tail end of it.

    There's no substantial offer. The government said they would imalgamate the rent allowance into normal pay over the next few years. Would work out at about an extra tenner a week for normal members and maybe 85 a week for new members. The government also offered to pay members to come in fifteen minutes early every shift for briefings. As offers go it was pathetic. The government have so many bargaining chips aside from a big pay increase that their offer shows just how little they give a ****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,832 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Something on six one about rank and file rejecting a new offer? Only got the tail end of it.

    RTE reported that the offer on the table was an extra €2500 pay per year plus back pay of frozen increments


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,789 ✭✭✭Alf Stewart.


    I'm torn over this one tbh.

    I would state that the first public servants that should see any benefit of the so called recovery should be (in this order) nurses, guards, and teachers.

    However, this striking lark isn't going to do the guards any favours, in the PR department, especially from members of the public.

    Imo, in light of all the recent allegations of corruption from within the Guards, and this current pay dispute, might be the best solution all round to just go nuclear on them and restructure the whole organisation from the ground up , ala PSNI/RUC style.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    There's no substantial offer. The government said they would imalgamate the rent allowance into normal pay over the next few years. Would work out at about an extra tenner a week for normal members and maybe 85 a week for new members. The government also offered to pay members to come in fifteen minutes early every shift for briefings. As offers go it was pathetic. The government have so many bargaining chips aside from a big pay increase that their offer shows just how little they give a ****.

    The government this, the government that, you'd swear the way some people go on that they think it's the cabinets money. It's not. It's your money and your children's money.

    The question is then: do you want to pay more tax so public servants can get a pay rise?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭hawkelady


    There's no substantial offer. The government said they would imalgamate the rent allowance into normal pay over the next few years. Would work out at about an extra tenner a week for normal members and maybe 85 a week for new members. The government also offered to pay members to come in fifteen minutes early every shift for briefings. As offers go it was pathetic. The government have so many bargaining chips aside from a big pay increase that their offer shows just how little they give a ****.

    The government this, the government that, you'd swear the way some people go on that they think it's the cabinets money. It's not. It's your money and your children's money.

    The question is then: do you want to pay more tax so public servants can get a pay rise?


    But it's just pay restoration they are looking for and not a pay rise. Or am I wrong


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    hawkelady wrote: »
    But it's just pay restoration they are looking for and not a pay rise. Or am I wrong

    Pay restoration is the PR friendly euphemism for a pay rise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl



    The question is then: do you want to pay more tax so public servants can get a pay rise?

    I'd sooner see the tax I pay now spent properly.

    Pay the people upholding the law/caring for the sick/educating the nations children a good wage for the job they do rather than throwing an extra 5 quid on all welfare payments and restoring the Christmas bonus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭hawkelady


    Edups wrote: »
    Didn't see a thread on this but if I was a criminal i'd be preparing for Christmas.

    A one day strike... you realise they'll just find you the day after?

    Really?? Will you get your car back too the next day when some scumbags decide to joyride it knowing they will get away with their couple hours of "fun" ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    Dont live in a rural area then
    Might as well just say "kill yourself then". :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,728 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    im taking orders for christmas now

    ....on a serious note, best of luck to the gardai, one of the most important jobs in society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Bambi wrote: »
    Time for a clear out of the ould guard(s) methinks

    A second law enforcement outfit moseying on into town would do no harm.

    How many of the representative bodies have come out against actual day to day management in any real way?

    They seem more than happy to demand more money while saying nothing to suggest that there's any problem there.

    Gardai are clearly unhappy about it so why are their rep groups silent on it?

    They're as bad as management or the government and happy to maintain the current status quo

    Do the GRA board members still pay their wives a €200 bonus at Christmas?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Pay restoration is the PR friendly euphemism for a pay rise.
    So that 5K the TD's got was a pay rise after all.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,100 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Pay restoration is the PR friendly euphemism for a pay rise.

    Bull. Pay restoration is completely different to a rise, and if you can't see that, well you can't be helped.

    I think it's disgraceful that the commissioner is directing every member in, even cancelling rest days and leave. She should be behind her force, not against it. And not one mention in the media of the EU courts stating that making it illegal for Gardai to strike is in breach of their rights. No, media is trying (as it nearly always does) to turn public opinion against the Gardai.

    I support them all day long. I think the strike is a horrible thing to have to happen, but the government has basically treated the Gardai like children, ignoring all the issues towards pay and operational issues. Along with a Government puppet running the organisation, and the point blank refusal to let the GRA and AGSI have the legal right to become a union, the refusal to allow it's members become part of a union... it's all after getting too much for the Gardai.

    While politicians are getting 5k a year, judges threatening to withdraw service due to not being paid enough (hah!), it's a kick in the face of the Gardai who are looking for nothing more than pay parity with new recruits, and restoration of pay to pre-recession levels. That's it. Yes, they'd love better equipment (1.6 diesel i30's as patrol cars...), better legislation, etc, but to avoid the strike it's simple. Restoration, parity, no more free hours. Offer that, the strike will be averted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Lol at the thinly veiled threat from government lackey Noirin O'Sullivan ordering the Guards to go to work Friday or else....

    What you going to do Noirin, sack them all? They're panicking in Garda HQ/Leinster House alright.

    Can't understand why the Garda get no respect of the Govt. If anyone deserves pay restoration its them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Lol at the thinly veiled threat from government lackey Noirin O'Sullivan ordering the Guards to go to work Friday or else....

    What you going to do Noirin, sack them all?


    She could get them arrested ..no wait...


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