Man killed clondalkin/neilstown area...

tomofson · 01-11-2016 11:25AM #1

A man was stabbed last night/early this morning in the neilstown area of clondalkin and fatally injured.... I know the name of the person though wont be making it public until media does.

Possible gangland connection.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/man-furiously-banged-on-door-after-being-fatally-stabbed-in-gang-chase-from-halloween-bonfire-35178180.html

Little CuChulainn · 01-11-2016 12:37PM

The fact he is dead won't really surprise many. The manner in which he was killed is pretty brutal though.

tomofson · 01-11-2016 12:39PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

The fact he is dead won't really surprise many. The manner in which he was killed is pretty brutal though.

Yeah on a second guess I would say it was a fight at a bonfire that got out of control rather than an organised attack.

No its not really surprising he was the victim at all.

Dravokivich · 01-11-2016 12:39PM

And now to Jean for the weather...

Your Face · 01-11-2016 12:44PM

Why did you post this OP?

Mr. Incognito · 01-11-2016 12:53PM

That's a horrible way to die. Chased and stabbed to death.

My condolences to his poor family.

tomofson · 01-11-2016 12:54PM

Your Face wrote: »

Why did you post this OP?

Because its in the publics interest to know and maybe comment on the issue if they want.

Wouldn't be the first time people have commented on murders in boards.ie

Mr. Incognito · 01-11-2016 12:58PM

tomofson wrote: »

Because its in the publics interest to know and maybe comment on the issue if they want.

Wouldn't be the first time people have commented on murders in boards.ie

Is it?

How is it?

Are we all entitled to give our opinions? To who, each other?

The Media reporting and Salacious Voyeurism of most media is frankly disturbing.

The Grief orgy that accompanied the death of Axel Foley where his poor widow and children were rolled out as some sort of pantomine characters for example was fairly disquietning.

People need to relearn boundaries, especially around the dead and the reporting of the dead.

tomofson · 01-11-2016 01:05PM

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Is it?

How is it?

Are we all entitled to give our opinions? To who, each other?

The Media reporting and Salacious Voyeurism of most media is frankly disturbing.

The Grief orgy that accompanied the death of Axel Foley where his poor widow and children were rolled out as some sort of pantomine characters for example was fairly disquietning.

People need to relearn boundaries, especially around the dead and the reporting of the dead.

I'm not disagreeing with that

inforfun · 01-11-2016 01:57PM

Title of thread is misleading.

01-11-2016 01:58PM

Gangland killing in Dublin shocker.

padd b1975 · 01-11-2016 02:12PM

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Outside of his family I can't imagine there'll too much genuine remorse for his death.

SEPT 23 1989 · 01-11-2016 02:15PM

was he not shot in the end?

s4uv3 · 01-11-2016 02:23PM

padd b1975 wrote: »

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Outside of his family I can't imagine there'll too much genuine remorse for his death.

That's a fierce nasty comment on a forum where his friends/family could stumble across it so easily.

SnakePlissken · 01-11-2016 02:36PM

s4uv3 wrote: »

That's a fierce nasty comment on a forum where his friends/family could stumble across it so easily.

Ah sure he died doing what he loved...

From 2013;

Two men who were part of a gang that terrorised west Dublin have been jailed for their roles in a horrific machete attack that almost severed the victim's hand.

The victim, Luke O'Toole (25), was lured to an apartment in Cherry Orchard after he was told by Robert Ellis (22), via text messages and phone calls, that his ex-girlfriend, Ellis's sister, wanted to meet him there.

A Battered Mars Bar · 01-11-2016 02:42PM

The pc brigade rushing again to preserve this man's dignity in death....tell me did he contribute anything to society in his 24 years? Other than a life of crime.

Zubeneschamali · 01-11-2016 02:44PM

SnakePlissken wrote: »

he was told by Robert Ellis (22), via text messages and phone calls, that his ex-girlfriend, Ellis's sister, wanted to meet him there.

Ellis has 31 previous convictions including one for assault. In 2009 he received a sentence of seven years with four suspended for distribution of drugs.

Judge Mary Ellen Ring imposed a prison sentence of three-and-a-half years' imprisonment on McDonnell and one of four years on Ellis. She suspended the last 18 months on both terms.

also:
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/man-shot-in-gangland-attack-is-friend-of-notorious-criminal-31048155.html

Ellis shot in 2015.

tomofson · 01-11-2016 02:57PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

was he not shot in the end?

Didn't hear anything like that i thought he was stabbed, do you mean when they caught up with him over the other side of the road they shot him?

seamus · 01-11-2016 02:58PM

Exactly the kind of characters you'd expect to find hanging around bonfires in Neilstown at 3am tbh. No surprise.

tomofson · 01-11-2016 03:04PM

A Battered Mars Bar wrote: »

The pc brigade rushing again to preserve this man's dignity in death....tell me did he contribute anything to society in his 24 years? Other than a life of crime.

Most of us realistically don't contribute a whole lot to society, doesn't mean anyone deserve that kind of death.

the groutch · 01-11-2016 03:11PM

tomofson wrote: »

Most of us realistically don't contribute a whole lot to society, doesn't mean anyone deserve that kind of death.

but you can also understand why there will be little or no sympathy for the premature death of a career criminal.

Fr_Dougal · 01-11-2016 03:13PM

tomofson wrote: »

Most of us realistically don't contribute a whole lot to society, doesn't mean anyone deserve that kind of death.

Think this guy might have had it coming to him.

The two men were both convicted and jailed for a horrific machete attack in 2011.

The victim almost had to have his hand severed due to the severity of the assault, in that incident.

tomofson · 01-11-2016 03:14PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Think this guy might have had it coming to him.

Violence begets more violence.

Pedro K · 01-11-2016 03:30PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

was he not shot in the end?

He was shot before and survived. Wasn't shot last night, as far as I know anyway.

Grayson · 01-11-2016 03:48PM

A Battered Mars Bar wrote: »

The pc brigade rushing again to preserve this man's dignity in death....tell me did he contribute anything to society in his 24 years? Other than a life of crime.

Is anyone actually doing that? I'm not saying he deserved to be stabbed to death although in his line of work violence is a job risk.

padd b1975 · 01-11-2016 04:49PM

s4uv3 wrote: »

That's a fierce nasty comment on a forum where his friends/family could stumble across it so easily.

Scumbags like that rarely have any true friends, plenty of immature hangers-on but no actual friends.

As for his family, if they hadn't turned a blind eye to his lifetime of criminality (I would be 99.99% certain they've benefitted from it in some form or another ) then he might just not have racked up the type of enemies that brought about his violent end.

ChikiChiki · 01-11-2016 04:51PM

s4uv3 wrote: »

That's a fierce nasty comment on a forum where his friends/family could stumble across it so easily.

I for one will not weep at his departure from society.

tomofson · 01-11-2016 04:52PM

padd b1975 wrote: »

Scumbags like that rarely have any true friends, plenty of immature hangers-on but no actual friends.

As for his family, if they hadn't turned a blind eye to his lifetime of criminality (I would be 99.99% certain they've benefitted from it in some form or another ) then he might just not have racked up the type of enemies that brought about his violent end.

He would of been so far down on the criminal ladder I doubt hes family would of benefited in the slightest. Most of these so called "criminals" are far from serious money men.

One well known criminal linked to the most recent feud was arrested for snatching phones, one thing I can guarantee you wont find is a serious money man on the crime scene out snatching phones on a bicycle

REM76 · 01-11-2016 04:55PM

Scumbag killed by other scumbags, who cares?

If only we could reopen Spike Island, send all these +20 convictions there to rot.

What do they offer anyone, only menace and fear.

Let them rot, start again.

I'd do it tomorrow morning if I could.

tomofson · 01-11-2016 05:02PM

REM76 wrote: »

Scumbag killed by other scumbags, who cares?

If only we could reopen Spike Island, send all these +20 convictions there to rot.

What do they offer anyone, only menace and fear.

Let them rot, start again.

I'd do it tomorrow morning if I could.

You cant do nothing though your powerless and drifting into bizarre revenge fantasies.

And as for who cares? Hes baby son will in years to come when hes old enough to understand, his girlfriend, his parents, his siblings, his friends. his neighbors and of course the concerned residents of the area who are sick and tired of this sort of carry on. In fact I believe all members of society should care I don't want one where this is the norm, luckily we dont have this on a daily basis in this country as much as the media and online hysterics try to sensationalize these incidents we are far from a violent society as a whole. Certain areas are very troubled however.

REM76 · 01-11-2016 05:07PM

tomofson wrote: »

You cant do nothing though your powerless and drifting into bizarre revenge fantasies.

So many spelling and grammar mistakes, no doubt you're one of their uneducated ilk.

Luckily for me, I don't live in Ireland anymore, for many reasons including their acceptance of scum and of scummy behaviour as normal.

But, given my choice I would lock them all up in Spike Island and let them rot. They are a parasitic scourge on decent people. If Imelda in Finglas is heartbroken, well, I wouldn't lose much sleep over it.

Man killed clondalkin/neilstown area...

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