Man killed clondalkin/neilstown area...

tomofson

A man was stabbed last night/early this morning in the neilstown area of clondalkin and fatally injured.... I know the name of the person though wont be making it public until media does.

Possible gangland connection.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/man-furiously-banged-on-door-after-being-fatally-stabbed-in-gang-chase-from-halloween-bonfire-35178180.html

Little CuChulainn

The fact he is dead won't really surprise many. The manner in which he was killed is pretty brutal though.

tomofson

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

The fact he is dead won't really surprise many. The manner in which he was killed is pretty brutal though.

Yeah on a second guess I would say it was a fight at a bonfire that got out of control rather than an organised attack.

No its not really surprising he was the victim at all.

Dravokivich

And now to Jean for the weather...

Your Face

Why did you post this OP?

Mr. Incognito

That's a horrible way to die. Chased and stabbed to death.

My condolences to his poor family.

tomofson

Your Face wrote: »

Why did you post this OP?

Because its in the publics interest to know and maybe comment on the issue if they want.

Wouldn't be the first time people have commented on murders in boards.ie

Mr. Incognito

tomofson wrote: »

Because its in the publics interest to know and maybe comment on the issue if they want.

Wouldn't be the first time people have commented on murders in boards.ie

Is it?

How is it?

Are we all entitled to give our opinions? To who, each other?

The Media reporting and Salacious Voyeurism of most media is frankly disturbing.

The Grief orgy that accompanied the death of Axel Foley where his poor widow and children were rolled out as some sort of pantomine characters for example was fairly disquietning.

People need to relearn boundaries, especially around the dead and the reporting of the dead.

tomofson

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Is it?

How is it?

Are we all entitled to give our opinions? To who, each other?

The Media reporting and Salacious Voyeurism of most media is frankly disturbing.

The Grief orgy that accompanied the death of Axel Foley where his poor widow and children were rolled out as some sort of pantomine characters for example was fairly disquietning.

People need to relearn boundaries, especially around the dead and the reporting of the dead.

I'm not disagreeing with that

inforfun

Title of thread is misleading.

Gangland killing in Dublin shocker.

padd b1975

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Outside of his family I can't imagine there'll too much genuine remorse for his death.

SEPT 23 1989

was he not shot in the end?

s4uv3

padd b1975 wrote: »

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Outside of his family I can't imagine there'll too much genuine remorse for his death.

That's a fierce nasty comment on a forum where his friends/family could stumble across it so easily.

SnakePlissken

s4uv3 wrote: »

That's a fierce nasty comment on a forum where his friends/family could stumble across it so easily.

Ah sure he died doing what he loved...

From 2013;

Two men who were part of a gang that terrorised west Dublin have been jailed for their roles in a horrific machete attack that almost severed the victim's hand.

The victim, Luke O'Toole (25), was lured to an apartment in Cherry Orchard after he was told by Robert Ellis (22), via text messages and phone calls, that his ex-girlfriend, Ellis's sister, wanted to meet him there.

A Battered Mars Bar

The pc brigade rushing again to preserve this man's dignity in death....tell me did he contribute anything to society in his 24 years? Other than a life of crime.

Zubeneschamali

SnakePlissken wrote: »

he was told by Robert Ellis (22), via text messages and phone calls, that his ex-girlfriend, Ellis's sister, wanted to meet him there.

Ellis has 31 previous convictions including one for assault. In 2009 he received a sentence of seven years with four suspended for distribution of drugs.

Judge Mary Ellen Ring imposed a prison sentence of three-and-a-half years' imprisonment on McDonnell and one of four years on Ellis. She suspended the last 18 months on both terms.

also:
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/man-shot-in-gangland-attack-is-friend-of-notorious-criminal-31048155.html

Ellis shot in 2015.

tomofson

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

was he not shot in the end?

Didn't hear anything like that i thought he was stabbed, do you mean when they caught up with him over the other side of the road they shot him?

seamus

Exactly the kind of characters you'd expect to find hanging around bonfires in Neilstown at 3am tbh. No surprise.

tomofson

A Battered Mars Bar wrote: »

The pc brigade rushing again to preserve this man's dignity in death....tell me did he contribute anything to society in his 24 years? Other than a life of crime.

Most of us realistically don't contribute a whole lot to society, doesn't mean anyone deserve that kind of death.

the groutch

tomofson wrote: »

Most of us realistically don't contribute a whole lot to society, doesn't mean anyone deserve that kind of death.

but you can also understand why there will be little or no sympathy for the premature death of a career criminal.

Fr_Dougal

tomofson wrote: »

Most of us realistically don't contribute a whole lot to society, doesn't mean anyone deserve that kind of death.

Think this guy might have had it coming to him.

The two men were both convicted and jailed for a horrific machete attack in 2011.

The victim almost had to have his hand severed due to the severity of the assault, in that incident.

tomofson

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Think this guy might have had it coming to him.

Violence begets more violence.

Pedro K

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

was he not shot in the end?

He was shot before and survived. Wasn't shot last night, as far as I know anyway.

Grayson

A Battered Mars Bar wrote: »

The pc brigade rushing again to preserve this man's dignity in death....tell me did he contribute anything to society in his 24 years? Other than a life of crime.

Is anyone actually doing that? I'm not saying he deserved to be stabbed to death although in his line of work violence is a job risk.

padd b1975

s4uv3 wrote: »

That's a fierce nasty comment on a forum where his friends/family could stumble across it so easily.

Scumbags like that rarely have any true friends, plenty of immature hangers-on but no actual friends.

As for his family, if they hadn't turned a blind eye to his lifetime of criminality (I would be 99.99% certain they've benefitted from it in some form or another ) then he might just not have racked up the type of enemies that brought about his violent end.

ChikiChiki

s4uv3 wrote: »

That's a fierce nasty comment on a forum where his friends/family could stumble across it so easily.

I for one will not weep at his departure from society.

tomofson

padd b1975 wrote: »

Scumbags like that rarely have any true friends, plenty of immature hangers-on but no actual friends.

As for his family, if they hadn't turned a blind eye to his lifetime of criminality (I would be 99.99% certain they've benefitted from it in some form or another ) then he might just not have racked up the type of enemies that brought about his violent end.

He would of been so far down on the criminal ladder I doubt hes family would of benefited in the slightest. Most of these so called "criminals" are far from serious money men.

One well known criminal linked to the most recent feud was arrested for snatching phones, one thing I can guarantee you wont find is a serious money man on the crime scene out snatching phones on a bicycle

REM76

Scumbag killed by other scumbags, who cares?

If only we could reopen Spike Island, send all these +20 convictions there to rot.

What do they offer anyone, only menace and fear.

Let them rot, start again.

I'd do it tomorrow morning if I could.

tomofson

REM76 wrote: »

Scumbag killed by other scumbags, who cares?

If only we could reopen Spike Island, send all these +20 convictions there to rot.

What do they offer anyone, only menace and fear.

Let them rot, start again.

I'd do it tomorrow morning if I could.

You cant do nothing though your powerless and drifting into bizarre revenge fantasies.

And as for who cares? Hes baby son will in years to come when hes old enough to understand, his girlfriend, his parents, his siblings, his friends. his neighbors and of course the concerned residents of the area who are sick and tired of this sort of carry on. In fact I believe all members of society should care I don't want one where this is the norm, luckily we dont have this on a daily basis in this country as much as the media and online hysterics try to sensationalize these incidents we are far from a violent society as a whole. Certain areas are very troubled however.

REM76

tomofson wrote: »

You cant do nothing though your powerless and drifting into bizarre revenge fantasies.

So many spelling and grammar mistakes, no doubt you're one of their uneducated ilk.

Luckily for me, I don't live in Ireland anymore, for many reasons including their acceptance of scum and of scummy behaviour as normal.

But, given my choice I would lock them all up in Spike Island and let them rot. They are a parasitic scourge on decent people. If Imelda in Finglas is heartbroken, well, I wouldn't lose much sleep over it.

tomofson

REM76 wrote: »

So many spelling and grammar mistakes, no doubt you're one of their uneducated ilk.

Luckily for me, I don't live in Ireland anymore, for many reasons including their acceptance of scum and of scummy behaviour as normal.

But, given my choice I would lock them all up in Spike Island and let them rot. They are a parasitic scourge on decent people. If Imelda in Finglas is heartbroken, well, I wouldn't lose much sleep over it.

Take your classist fantasies elsewhere pal, theres already enough of your ilk here.

Oh and its 2016 no one gives a **** about a few grammar mistakes.

REM76

tomofson wrote: »

Take your classist fantasies elsewhere pal, theres already enough of your ilk here.

Oh and its 2016 no one gives a **** about a few grammar mistakes.

...and spelling.

To Spike Island, one way ticket! Just give me the judge's hammer, all of you scum gone forever.

You can all feed on each other on that island. But if you set a foot off it, BANG! DEAD!

Buried at sea (chucked overboard)

If ten scum were shot dead, that's 300,000 euro saved every year, enough for 10 nurses to be employed.

seamus

tomofson wrote: »

One well known criminal linked to the most recent feud was arrested for snatching phones, one thing I can guarantee you wont find is a serious money man on the crime scene out snatching phones on a bicycle

No. Even most of the guys running around carrying out hits as part of a feud won't be getting briefcases of cash for it; they'll just be getting debts of a few grand written off.

tomofson

seamus wrote: »

No. Even most of the guys running around carrying out hits as part of a feud won't be getting briefcases of cash for it; they'll just be getting debts of a few grand written off.

True I would say they understand the risk of their own "crew" turning on them once they run out of use to.

hawkelady

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Oh and its 2016 no one gives a **** about a few grammar mistakes.[/quote]

Sorry , I know it's off topic but when I read it , if I was the monocle wearing type , it would have fell to the floor .. sorry again

But you should give a ..... about grammar and spelling mistakes !! It's 2016 and we aren't writing on cave walls anymore .. your attitude in this regard stinks . Do you mind me asking how old you are ?

REM76

tomofson wrote: »

True I would say they understand the risk of their own "crew" turning on them once they run out of use to.

Ah yeah, sure robbing someone's phone on a bike is nothing :rolleyes:

If they tried that on me, I'd wrench them from the bike, take the chain off and wrap it round their scum neck until they were lifeless.

I'd be cheered on by everyone around, no question.

Then I'd dump their scum corpse in a skip, no one would give a damn....one less scum off the street.

tomofson

hawkelady wrote: »

But you should give a ..... about grammar and spelling mistakes !! It's 2016 and we aren't writing on cave walls anymore .. your attitude in this regard stinks . Do you mind me asking how old you are ?

Do you mind me asking how you feel about the other individuals attitude? Hes obvious classist mentality and troll like comments???

tomofson

REM76 wrote: »

Ah yeah, sure robbing someone's phone on a bike is nothing :rolleyes:

If they tried that on me, I'd wrench them from the bike, take the chain off and wrap it round their scum neck until they were lifeless.

I'd be cheered on by everyone around, no question.

Then I'd dump their scum corpse in a skip, no one would give a damn....one less scum off the street.

Hahahaha

REM76

tomofson wrote: »

Do you mind me asking how you feel about the other individuals attitude? Hes obvious classist mentality and troll like comments???

Classist? Common thieves and aggressors has nothing to do with class. These repeat offenders are scum, pure scum.

Brought up with no parental supervision, no respect for person nor property, they are a parasitic scourge on common, decent people.

I want them off my street, away from my family, but I don't want to pay for them. I want them dead.

If they kill each other, all the better. Long may it continue.

tomofson

REM76 wrote: »

Classist? Common thieves and aggressors has nothing to do with class. These repeat offenders are scum, pure scum.

Brought up with no parental supervision, no respect for person nor property, they are a parasitic scourge on common, decent people.

I want them off my street, away from my family, but I don't want to pay for them. I want them dead.

If they kill each other, all the better. Long may it continue.

Yeah whatever are you done now?

Odelay

REM76 wrote: »

Ah yeah, sure robbing someone's phone on a bike is nothing :rolleyes:

If they tried that on me, I'd wrench them from the bike, take the chain off and wrap it round their scum neck until they were lifeless.

I'd be cheered on by everyone around, no question.

Then I'd dump their scum corpse in a skip, no one would give a damn....one less scum off the street.

Well why didn't you do that instead if moving out of the country? You type like a big tough man.

osarusan

REM76 wrote: »

Ah yeah, sure robbing someone's phone on a bike is nothing :rolleyes:

If they tried that on me, I'd wrench them from the bike, take the chain off and wrap it round their scum neck until they were lifeless.

I'd be cheered on by everyone around, no question.

Then I'd dump their scum corpse in a skip, no one would give a damn....one less scum off the street.

Jaysus, watch out people, we've got a real hard man here.

Boom_Bap

REM76 wrote: »

Ah yeah, sure robbing someone's phone on a bike is nothing :rolleyes:

If they tried that on me, I'd wrench them from the bike, take the chain off and wrap it round their scum neck until they were lifeless.

I'd be cheered on by everyone around, no question.

Then I'd dump their scum corpse in a skip, no one would give a damn....one less scum off the street.

MOD
Give it a rest with your descriptive fantasies please, there's no need for that.

Also, no more grammar Nazism please, it adds absolutely nutting to the discustion.

REM76

Odelay wrote: »

Well why didn't you do that instead if moving out of the country? You type like a big tough man.

Well, my time is precious. I didn't want to live among scum, so I left for somewhere without scum.

Now I can browse the internet on my iphone walking about the city, I can get a train or bus at any time, I can leave my front door open if I'm around the house without a second thought.

No scumbags round here, the locals wouldn't put up with it. You'd be kicked out pronto.

Scum have no apologists here.

tomofson

REM76 wrote: »

Well, my time is precious. I didn't want to live among scum, so I left for somewhere without scum.

Now I can browse the internet on my iphone walking about the city, I can get a train or bus at any time, I can leave my front door open if I'm around the house without a second thought.

No scumbags round here, the locals wouldn't put up with it. You'd be kicked out pronto.

Scum have no apologists here.

Why would you of been afraid to use the bus or train at any time over here? since your such a tough muscle man grizzly bear?

I doubt there is any country on the planet you could move to without some sort of social problems.

DrumSteve

REM76 wrote: »

Well, my time is precious. I didn't want to live among scum, so I left for somewhere without scum.

Now I can browse the internet on my iphone walking about the city, I can get a train or bus at any time, I can leave my front door open if I'm around the house without a second thought.

No scumbags round here, the locals wouldn't put up with it. You'd be kicked out pronto.

Scum have no apologists here.

Do tell were this magical place is so we can pull up the crime stats for it.

Zubeneschamali

REM76 wrote: »

one less scum off the street.

That means one more scum on the street, which is not perhaps the idea you intended to convey.

My name is URL

DrumSteve wrote: »

Do tell were this magical place is so we can pull up the crime stats for it.

Up his own arse by the sounds of it

nelly17

The headlines make for very grim reading today from a law and order perspective.

seamus

REM76 wrote: »

Well, my time is precious. I didn't want to live among scum, so I left for somewhere without scum.

Now I can browse the internet on my iphone walking about the city, I can get a train or bus at any time, I can leave my front door open if I'm around the house without a second thought.

No scumbags round here, the locals wouldn't put up with it. You'd be kicked out pronto.

Scum have no apologists here.

Sounds like Dublin tbh. The only reason I wouldn't leave my front door open when I'm in the house is to keep the dog and the child in, not to keep the scum out.