Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

Can't see much in this game olg will fancy there chances they always seem to be able to win a fight against shamrocks the kearns will have to be watched closely by the officials what they got away within the semi final last year against us was a disgrace. As for the captain of olg win surly they would have to nominate someone from another club Berlin probably won't be on the panel next year.

brookville wrote: »

bhale will be warm favourites and rightly so but it certainly wouldn't be a huge suprise if olg won.the last few meetings have being tight.if olg can get on top in their half back line gorta,kelly and bergin could do a bit of harm.who would be county captain if olg win would it be bergin?

Noddy33 wrote: »

The use of the term "shafted" would give me the impression that you are assuming Tullaroan would have won had the sending offs not happen. People are forgetting the shocks were hurling the absolute shoyte out of Tullaroan at the time pf red cards and Carrickshock also had a man sent off.

Obviously Padraig Walsh was a bigger loss that what Franks was to the Shocks but to purely blame the final result and outcome on the sending off of Padraig is highly presumptuous.If you ask me Tullaroan have nobody but themselves to blame and using Sean Cleere as a scapegoat is only a cop out from them to hide the fact they hurled crap for the 20mins when Padraig was on the field and hurled no better when he was gone. It was Tommy that struck Tennyson and it was Padraig who decided to get involved when he didnt have to so that was all there own doing. For all what happened it still impossible to condone some of he carry on from Tullaroan players and officials at the final whistle from a club that I hugely admire

I echo these sentiments entirely. Tullaroan have nobody to blame but themselves. Hurled well for a 12 minute period midway through the second half other than that Carrickshock were the better team and full value for their victory. Tullaroan did not play well enough over the hour. Blaming Sean Cleere is too simplistic of an excuse for defeat. That entire situation was started by a Tullaroan player!!

kilkennyboy wrote: »

if you are struggling in a game start a fight
oldest trick in the book

Well it didnt work did it cause A- they were beaten and B- they lost there best and most influential player.

dobbs2210 wrote: »

Well it didnt work did it cause A- they were beaten and B- they lost there best and most influential player.

its about breaking momentum.stopping the play for a few minutes.the game was going away from tullaroan they got into the dressing room 4 down it could have been 10.

JoeQuimby wrote: »

Bad decision again, Richie power was through on goal, he fumbled the ball and chance was gone, there was a scrum in front of the goal and he called for a penalty just as the ball was about in Tullaroan possession.

i dont know where you were sitting but the number 12 had risen the ball after richie spilled and was rugby tackled from behind as he was about to strike.

kilkennyboy wrote: »

carrickshock were winning by 5pts and were peppering the tullaroan goal when the sending off happened.all brought about by tommy getting caught in possession and giving away a free then he lashed out.padraig tried to pick teno up who was out cold.bit of pushing then with franks and he books tommy crazy.cards will deffo be overturned as ban would cary to next year for p walsh .tommy could be upgraded thats the chance you take with an appeal.mick rice is only 31 the rest of the x county shock boys are only 30.gorta henry bob alyward would have a few years on them.you could be like tullaroan and not give them the respect they deserve.who knows

Couldn't give a **** who won. Happy for Carrickshock as i hadn't seen them play since last year when they were woeful. As for Tennyson, if he was out cold he should've been taken off for a potential concussion. Reel that neck back in. It'll only get you in trouble.

Awful awful awful management by Shamrocks today. Stacking their half forward line and leaving no full forward line to do any scoring. Once the scores dried up from out the field they had no answer. You have to put either TJ or Colin in full forward. Amazing how they're so utterly reliant on TJ to not only score but to win the ball and lay off the ball for other scorers.

Fair play to Loughlins. Brilliant in the 2nd half

Congrats to the Loughs. Worthy winners in the end even though they only took the lead halfway through the second half. It might seem obvious but it was in that second half when the Loughs ground out the win. Shamrocks seemed to run out of steam and ideas. Loughs had youth on their side and it really told in the end. They had strong performers in the two Paddys at midfield, Lawlor at half back and their uncompromising full back line which held off the late but predictable Shamrocks surge. Bar Gorta, their fowards were well held.
For the Shamrocks, TJ was the main man but had to spend too much time winning ball instead of taking the pop pass and likely score. Colin Fennelly was full of running but was wasteful with either a stray pass or shot wide. Henry had a frustrating day and it showed with some of his antics. A mere mortal wouldn't have gotten away with it.

Interesting to see which OLG players will be on the Kilkenny Panel and, by extension, in contention to captain the Cats next year. Has Mark Kelly ruled himself out? If so, you would say that Mark Bergin, Paddy Deegan and Huw Lawlor might make the panel with Bergin being named as captain though none of these would be favourite to start at the moment.

phkk wrote: »

Thought Anthony Forristal was excellent today, especially in the second half. Tough, tenacious and clever with ball in hand, I was really impressed with him

We definitely need competition in the backs as we struggled at full back, corner back and centre back and had little cover for any position. Rob Lennon, Conor Delaney, Evan Cody Jason Cleere and Huw Lawlor should also be pushing those currently in possession

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Does Cha still play for Ballyhale or his brother? Noticed Cha wasnt named on the starting 15 today?

No, would you believe Cha retired this year. A huge loss, he was really missed today

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Jeez sure he is still young enough to play club. He seemed to just lose his whole love for the game the last few years? or was he suffering injuries?

I don't think Cha was ever the same after getting the mumps in 2009, he didn't seem to cover the same amount of ground which was unfortunate as he had skill to burn

True about cha.but great to see gorta giving his all for his club.ballyhale could have done with cha yesterday.as regards the county team no one already involved stood out for me.

OLG well deserved winners over lacklustre Ballyhale.Gorta was causing all problems and his score in early second half was point of the match.Paddy butler and Deegan were very good as was Forristal.i couldn't understand why shamrocks didn't put in one of their star forwards as they had nothing really inside that causing a threat and all their forwards were being sucked way back down the pitch.

The junior was dour affair and felt sorry for Callan as never nice to lose final like that.Mooncoin are really nice balanced team and they had 8 different scorers on the day so that's a fair spread.Hennebry is a real handful and they will certainly cause problems for teams next year at Intermediate.

Danesfort made few positional changes and brought in County minor panelist James Mullally who made very handsome contribution of 1-2 and won some crucial frees.Richie was outstanding and scored 5 brilliant points from play.Murphy played at half back and cleared a collosal amount of ball.Hard on Fenians but suppose some might say this was inevitable at some stage.Must give credit to the referee O'Sullivan who I thought applied the new advantage rule as it should be and was consistent throughout with this.Too often I have seen refs completely mess this rule up as if to suggest they struggling to interpret what exactly is an advantage....

Looking at the games over the weekend some impressive performers.Deegan has trained with KK senior panel and will be brought in again.He has a great engine but is very one sided.He does a lot of needless extra work just so he can into space to strike off the left.He also likes to just launch the ball as long as he again which is fine at club level but county level it's all about the delivery into the forwards which needs to be smart.He young so def has time to improve and would be a good squad option to have.Still no solution at full back but as corner backs go not many who have been better this year than Forristal.Another player that always impresses me is Conor Tobin.He is very consistent and always performs well. I just wonder what potential he could have if playing with players at a higher level

jeff bingham wrote: »

John Dalton probably the best full back I've seen this year but that ship has sailed.
Ya conor tobin has always been decent when iv seen him, he's probably a level or 2 below the top intercounty forwards though.

Kearns is probaly the best full back at club level but obviously won't be considered for county plus he probaly lacks pace.it was suprising colin didnt do a spell at 14