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Limestone Cowboy · 24-10-2016 10:46PM

charolais0153 wrote: »

How many cows do you have

45, all outwintered. Only feed silage for about 6 weeks

Bullocks · 24-10-2016 10:53PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

45, all outwintered. Only feed silage for about 6 weeks

Not many on the west coast could get away with that short feeding period

Limestone Cowboy · 24-10-2016 10:53PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Would it have paid to feed them bulls and heifers about 2kg/day for last 40 days. At say 25c/kg it would have cost you 20 euro/head. You might even have squeezed another 2-3 euro off that depending on what you paid for the ration/nut.

An easy system is to have a fence or a gate with a trough they can come through for the ration.

I doubt it to be honest, I averaged 2.84/kg or 768e over the ten on a bad year and there was 6 inches of hair on them, farmers love hairy calves. If I fed them I'd have knocked it off them and they wouldn't have been half as saleable. If you take out the lad at 605 I should have left at home I'm up nearer 3e/kg. I seen 320kg Charolais paying less than mine tonight.

Limestone Cowboy · 24-10-2016 10:54PM

degetme wrote: »

kilmallock mart???

Kilfenora.

Limestone Cowboy · 24-10-2016 11:01PM

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Ya I hear what your saying. Sometimes less really is more.and if it works for you than keep at it. Do you think the lighter weights were down to the year?

My own fault really, was too late closing silage and had no aftergrass for them. Just grazing rough rocky ground for the last 2 months and while the look lovely coming out of that kind of ground they never weigh. I'm happy enough anyway. All they got was 2 shots of blackleg vaccine and a worm dose. This time last year they would have been a bit heavier and averaged 100 a head more at least, with the year that's in it I'll take it. Most of the heifers have stars and had a few lads asking me at the mart about the after seeing the bulls so might get to shift a few of them at home.

Limestone Cowboy · 24-10-2016 11:04PM

Bullocks wrote: »

Not many on the west coast could get away with that short feeding period

It's a completely different system to be honest. Try to put as little as possible into them and pocket what you can. Lucky we can turn them up a mountain for 4-5 months and they survive away on it. A lot of our summer ground isint great though.

charolais0153 · 24-10-2016 11:44PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

45, all outwintered. Only feed silage for about 6 weeks

And me thinking you only had 16-17 cows.

Limestone Cowboy · 25-10-2016 12:07AM

charolais0153 wrote: »

And me thinking you only had 16-17 cows.

I'm not stuck for cows at all, have a few too many if anything. Things would be a lot more comfortable with ten less and I'd have very little expense with them.

limo_100 · 25-10-2016 11:37AM

Lads have 3 Limousin bullocks to sell 18 month old. they are probably between 550 and 620. Should I sell them now or hold for a few weeks with the weather being dry?

Bass Reeves · 25-10-2016 11:44AM

limo_100 wrote: »

Lads have 3 Limousin bullocks to sell 18 month old. they are probably between 550 and 620. Should I sell them now or hold for a few weeks with the weather being dry?

Cannot see store price holding with factory price. Good article in today's FI in mart section regardiong prices. When weather really breakks I think stores will flood into marts and only one way they can go IMO.

Danzy · 25-10-2016 01:20PM

What do people think of Saler X heifers, there was a pen of them at the mart today and they went for 670-680 a head, nice enough looking bout 400kg weight.

Are they worth a crack at for finishing next year.

Cavanjack · 25-10-2016 03:44PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Cannot see store price holding with factory price. Good article in today's FI in mart section regardiong prices. When weather really breakks I think stores will flood into marts and only one way they can go IMO.

Can't understand lads still paying crazy money for weanlings, store prices are sure to fall further. Saw 450kg black lim stores going for €900 last week yet lads will still pay over €900 for 300kg weanlings and €1100 for 400kg. Maybe they're been bought for the factories?

patsy_mccabe · 25-10-2016 04:24PM

The guy selling 300kg weanlings for €900 isn't exactly cleaning up, is he? People buy the animal in front of them and how they expect it to be in12 months time. They don't pay much attention to weight or price per kg. Has always been that way.

Muckit · 25-10-2016 05:09PM

There was a lad on here a few years ago Bob Charles that gave good advice. Buy the animal, not the weight.

jimmy G M · 25-10-2016 05:32PM

Muckit wrote: »

There was a lad on here a few years ago Bob Charles that gave good advice. Buy the animal, not the weight.

Yeah. I used to enjoy reading his posts. I don't think he was ever reincarnated though?

cute geoge · 25-10-2016 05:42PM

Both bob and farmer pudsey gave a good insight into beef farming .I will always remember pudsey coming out with the price of jersey bull calves should be -50 euro as in the seller should give the buyer 50 euro with the calf

patsy_mccabe · 25-10-2016 06:14PM

jimmy G M wrote: »

Yeah. I used to enjoy reading his posts. I don't think he was ever reincarnated though?

Ya, same here. Great for a bit of banter too.

Bass Reeves · 25-10-2016 06:17PM

Muckit wrote: »

There was a lad on here a few years ago Bob Charles that gave good advice. Buy the animal, not the weight.

It is true to a certain extent. However if you look at average prices across breeds of animals at present hard to see a margin on lots of cattle going for finishing at present.

kollegeknight · 25-10-2016 06:34PM

Jan Big black limo bull -390kg- €770
Feb red limo bull - 295kg-€600
2 Late march red limo bulls 282.5kg (ave) €680 each

Late march red limo heifer 270kg €635
Late march black limo heifer 280kg €530
Mid march red limo heifer 260kg €540

The heifers went through the ring late in day around 4:30pm

All prices back on mine from previous years.

Cavanjack · 25-10-2016 07:08PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

The guy selling 300kg weanlings for €900 isn't exactly cleaning up, is he? People buy the animal in front of them and how they expect it to be in12 months time. They don't pay much attention to weight or price per kg. Has always been that way.

Yes the suckler man is struggling too at that money.
The 450kg store should be hanging up in 12 months time. The 300kg weanling if squeezed would still just be a heavy store in 12months time and need to be housed for a few months before finishing. Surely the store is way better value?

jimini0 · 25-10-2016 07:31PM

Late march red limo heifer 270kg €635
Late march black limo heifer 280kg €530
Mid march red limo heifer 260kg €540

Where were those light heifers sold? I'm in the market for a few light ones around 250kg to keep over the winter and out to grass in spring? When do ye think is best time to buy them budget around 500-550 each.

jimmy G M · 25-10-2016 07:35PM

cute geoge wrote: »

Both bob and farmer pudsey gave a good insight into beef farming .I will always remember pudsey coming out with the price of jersey bull calves should be -50 euro as in the seller should give the buyer 50 euro with the calf

I think Pudsey might be hanging around alright - may even be making the odd contribution on this thread.

So best for that, good to have a few cute kerrymen on board!

kollegeknight · 25-10-2016 07:41PM

jimini0 wrote: »

Late march red limo heifer 270kg €635
Late march black limo heifer 280kg €530
Mid march red limo heifer 260kg €540

Where were those light heifers sold? I'm in the market for a few light ones around 250kg to keep over the winter and out to grass in spring? When do ye think is best time to buy them budget around 500-550 each.

I sold in Ennis today. I wasn't there to comment on prices just my own.

_Brian · 25-10-2016 09:23PM

jimini0 wrote: »

Late march red limo heifer 270kg €635
Late march black limo heifer 280kg €530
Mid march red limo heifer 260kg €540

Where were those light heifers sold? I'm in the market for a few light ones around 250kg to keep over the winter and out to grass in spring? When do ye think is best time to buy them budget around 500-550 each.

Was in carnaross earlier and quite a few of this style heifers withdrawn under €600. Plainer continental weanlings were poor trade as were heavier lots.

Danzy · 25-10-2016 09:42PM

Saw AA heifer, March 15, 455 kg go for about 915.

Thought it was a good bit, all considered.

Genghis Cant · 25-10-2016 09:58PM

Sold 4 bull weanlings. Avg 430 kgs €1070. Ch X and Lim X. Good quality.

teddy 1223 · 25-10-2016 10:01PM

Genghis Cant wrote:

Sold 4 bull weanlings. Avg 430 kgs â‚¬1070. Ch X and Lim X. Good quality.

Not too bad for the year that's in it.

Dozer1 · 26-10-2016 10:46AM

was in Castleisland Monday,
sold 5 bulls
tough enough trade
3 good black LM bulls feb march calves

360 800
408 850
410 865

1 good red
342 800
1 crap red
278 690

bought 7 heifers all red lm's mainly march/april
216 560
270 580
300 605
278 620 2 in the lot
274 640
220 525 july calf

patsy_mccabe · 26-10-2016 10:58AM

Brexit really hitting the heifer trade, it seems.

Bass Reeves · 26-10-2016 12:02PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Brexit really hitting the heifer trade, it seems.

No export the boat is keeping a floor on bull weanlings going to Turkey.

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