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charolais0153 · 19-10-2016 09:30PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

She want to be well fat doubt if she would kill 52% at that weight more likely 50% or less. She would still have been worth a gamble in the factory if you were QA. If she was O=2+ she would have prices ad below.

240 X 3.63 (3.75 -0.24 +0.12)=871.

A butcher would have been the best option and more than likely bought her. He have paid 3.8 flat for her I imagine.

Its just we had two heifers like her, small butty types. We killed them both 3 oR 4 weeks ago. 3.90 to a butcher. He wouldn't trim then as much and I feel you get a better deal. The heavier one was sa x aa and killed 280kg and she was not more than 530 live.

Bass Reeves · 19-10-2016 09:40PM

charolais0153 wrote: »

Its just we had two heifers like her, small butty types. We killed them both 3 oR 4 weeks ago. 3.90 to a butcher. He wouldn't trim then as much and I feel you get a better deal. The heavier one was sa x aa and killed 280kg and she was not more than 530 live.

You would want to weight them to be sure. It would depend on whether they had got much ration or not. Cattle off grass this time of year will not KO without ration. AA X cattle are deceptive some will weight like lead some not it depends on if they have a belly or not. Like you said butchers do not trim as much as factories but unless heifers are mad fat most factories do not either. Butchers tend not to want heifers too fat most want heifers killing less than 250DW and FS2+/3-

charolais0153 · 19-10-2016 10:28PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

You would want to weight them to be sure. It would depend on whether they had got much ration or not. Cattle off grass this time of year will not KO without ration. AA X cattle are deceptive some will weight like lead some not it depends on if they have a belly or not. Like you said butchers do not trim as much as factories but unless heifers are mad fat most factories do not either. Butchers tend not to want heifers too fat most want heifers killing less than 250DW and FS2+/3-

We sold two otheir heifers to the mart previously so we had a good idea of weights

primary 2 · 20-10-2016 10:02PM

does any one know what kilkenny was like today?

MIKEKC · 22-10-2016 06:30PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Dozer1 wrote: »

Doubt it bar the grey ch
Both he had plenty dairy influence and 1 was 14
The lm at the end was butty and 14 born bought her this day last year 276kg 545 so didn't make me rich either. All got only silage and a shake of ration last winter and grass only from March

For the buyers there may be a twist in them four. They are the type of heifers that could be finished before end of January. If you put 80-90kgs on them and they killed 280kgs DW. You would want the post January price/kg for them to average 4.05 including HE premium on the herefords and all to make the QA.

Dozer1 wrote: »

Doubt it bar the grey ch
Both he had plenty dairy influence and 1 was 14
The lm at the end was butty and 14 born bought her this day last year 276kg 545 so didn't make me rich either. All got only silage and a shake of ration last winter and grass only from March

I always wonder how much a shake of ration is

orm0nd · 22-10-2016 07:09PM

MIKEKC wrote: »

I always wonder how much a shake of ration is

one of them white buckets between 8 of them :rolleyes:

Limestone Cowboy · 22-10-2016 08:00PM

Any bit of a bump in weanling prices this week with the sfp out? Have 10 bulls to go Monday.

Never wrestle with pigs · 22-10-2016 08:44PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Any bit of a bump in weanling prices this week with the sfp out? Have 10 bulls to go Monday.

Sold a few jan feb bulls, 425kg no meal atall. Nice u grade blonds, Lims got €1050, happy for the year that's in it.

The lighter 350kg more plane type were back to €780/€800

Another boat going to Turky if you have any light lads I'd hold a few weeks if you could 330kg max

Robson99 · 22-10-2016 08:46PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Any bit of a bump in weanling prices this week with the sfp out? Have 10 bulls to go Monday.

Cant see there being much of a rise until Larry feels like giving.
Stores / weanlings still overpriced in relation to finished prices

Who2 · 22-10-2016 08:50PM

Seen 300kg weanlings sell today for 1100 most between 8-900. 400kg 8-1000. It's not paying to feed get in early to the marts and hope the shippers haven't filled their trailers by the time you get there.

FeelTheBern · 22-10-2016 08:53PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Any bit of a bump in weanling prices this week with the sfp out? Have 10 bulls to go Monday.

Was at weanling sale in Roscrea last weds. You'd want to have good quality ch/lm bulls to get around 2.40/kg - something very exceptional to get over that, maybe nice white ch. Anything ok but not real good quality back at around 2.10 to 2.25/kg and plainer again back nearer the 2.00/kg.

One difference I thought from last year was that fellows weren't paying big money for handy (less than 300kg weanlings) - price per kg nearly at same level as the heavier lads.

Welding Rod · 22-10-2016 08:59PM

Got rid of a few. Yellow lims off char cows.

318kg. 820
325kg. 850

Was very late in mart. Saw plainer stock than what I had pay 60 earlier in the day.

charolais0153 · 22-10-2016 10:31PM

Welding Rod wrote: »

Got rid of a few. Yellow lims off char cows.

318kg. 820
325kg. 850

Was very late in mart. Saw plainer stock than what I had pay 60 earlier in the day.

Bulls or heifers

Welding Rod · 23-10-2016 06:57AM

charolais0153 wrote: »

Welding Rod wrote: »

Got rid of a few. Yellow lims off char cows.

318kg. 820
325kg. 850

Was very late in mart. Saw plainer stock than what I had pay 60 earlier in the day.

Bulls or heifers

Bulls.

patsy_mccabe · 23-10-2016 01:01PM

Right or wrong I like to let off the glut before selling my weanlings. Usually mid November. No choice this year as I am locked up till then anyway.

restive · 24-10-2016 10:49AM

Was in Roscommon Mart Friday evening. The following were top bids. Many did not sell.

525 kg chx â‚¬1140
520kg chx â‚¬1085
498kg chx â‚¬1125
472kg chx â‚¬1035
500kg chx â‚¬1185
575kg chx â‚¬1235
575kg chx â‚¬1145
565kg chx â‚¬1310
565kg chx â‚¬1335

Limestone Cowboy · 24-10-2016 11:06AM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Right or wrong I like to let off the glut before selling my weanlings. Usually mid November. No choice this year as I am locked up till then anyway.

Biggest sale of the year in local mart is today week, it'll be small enough tonight and like yourself I try to avoid it. Normally get a few local farmers following our calves which is a big help compared to getting pen 60 in Ennis and a few dealers picking and choosing what they will bring home.

Bass Reeves · 24-10-2016 11:10AM

restive wrote: »

Was in Roscommon Mart Friday evening. The following were top bids. Many did not sell.

525 kg chx â‚¬1140
520kg chx â‚¬1085
498kg chx â‚¬1125
472kg chx â‚¬1035
500kg chx â‚¬1185
575kg chx â‚¬1235
575kg chx â‚¬1145
565kg chx â‚¬1310
565kg chx â‚¬1335

Looking at them accross the board they are averagiong 532kgs. Put 150 kgs onto them in the shed they be at 680kgs and kill about 375kgs. They are averaging 1177 so nearly 1200 landed in the yard.

What will they make in the factory next February/March. Give it that we get a bit of a rise in the factory price for the winter and let it get to 4/kg of a base( and most lads think it will not). If they average U- and you get 4.24/kg then they will average 1590. You would not want the base to be back to 3.8c/kg when selling. The real killer is if a lad is replacing stock just sold and is working off that he is gertting 1460 he is at a hiding to nothing. Unless they have a contract such lads are not doing the sums.

Welding Rod · 24-10-2016 11:17AM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Right or wrong I like to let off the glut before selling my weanlings. Usually mid November. No choice this year as I am locked up till then anyway.

Biggest sale of the year in local mart is today week, it'll be small enough tonight and like yourself I try to avoid it. Normally get a few local farmers following our calves which is a big help compared to getting pen 60 in Ennis and a few dealers picking and choosing what they will bring home.

Oddly enough the north Clare sale in the week before the big bank holiday sale is often dearer than the big one.
My trailer borrowed for tonight by a fella who always goes to today's sale. Reckons he does better!

Limestone Cowboy · 24-10-2016 01:12PM

Welding Rod wrote: »

Oddly enough the north Clare sale in the week before the big bank holiday sale is often dearer than the big one.
My trailer borrowed for tonight by a fella who always goes to today's sale. Reckons he does better!

Was the dearest sale there last year anyway but a lot has changed in the meantime!

valtra2 · 24-10-2016 08:29PM

Second bunch of bulls sold tonight. Jan Feb calf
442kg 1060 hefirs calf
470kg 1120
455kg 1035
495kg 1125

Limestone Cowboy · 24-10-2016 08:49PM

TITANIUM. · 24-10-2016 09:11PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

What was the 245 kg lad?

Limestone Cowboy · 24-10-2016 09:19PM

TITANIUM. wrote: »

What was the 245 kg lad?

Lim out of a hex cow, plain calf in fairness. Rest were all red Lims

TITANIUM. · 24-10-2016 09:56PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Lim out of a hex cow, plain calf in fairness. Rest were all red Lims

I've seen some of your stock on the photo thread. You've very good stock do you think it would pay you to carry them to heavier weights?
That calf couldn't have left a whole lot after him. Am I right in saying that you outwinter all your stock? I know this means that your cost per cow a year are well below mine but surely the likes of that lad could be carried over and leave a good few pound more in late spring for the grass men?

Limestone Cowboy · 24-10-2016 10:13PM

TITANIUM. wrote: »

I've seen some of your stock on the photo thread. You've very good stock do you think it would pay you to carry them to heavier weights?
That calf couldn't have left a whole lot after him. Am I right in saying that you outwinter all your stock? I know this means that your cost per cow a year are well below mine but surely the likes of that lad could be carried over and leave a good few pound more in late spring for the grass men?

Bit of a double edged sword really, I could calf the majority of my cows in February instead of the middle of April but it's adding a lot of expense to feed them for 2-3 months until we have grass. Not sure I'd be much better off for it. Those calves were lighter than I'd normally have too, normally have the from roughly 280-320kg. No it didn't pay to sell that lad but I can't keep them all for the winter. That's that cows last calf here too. Will keep 25 mostly heifers till next spring/summer and that's my limit. The 290kg calf was out of an aa cow and a bit plain too. The rest all red Lims out of lim cows.

charolais0153 · 24-10-2016 10:16PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Bit of a double edged sword really, I could calf the majority of my cows in February instead of the middle of April but it's adding a lot of expense to feed them for 2-3 months until we have grass. Not sure I'd be much better off for it. Those calves were lighter than I'd normally have too, normally have the from roughly 280-320kg. No it didn't pay to sell that lad but I can't keep them all for the winter. That's that cows last calf here too. Will keep 25 mostly heifers till next spring/summer and that's my limit. The 290kg calf was out of an aa cow and a bit plain too. The rest all red Lims out of lim cows.

How many cows do you have

degetme · 24-10-2016 10:17PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

kilmallock mart???

Bass Reeves · 24-10-2016 10:19PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Bit of a double edged sword really, I could calf the majority of my cows in February instead of the middle of April but it's adding a lot of expense to feed them for 2-3 months until we have grass. Not sure I'd be much better off for it. Those calves were lighter than I'd normally have too, normally have the from roughly 280-320kg. No it didn't pay to sell that lad but I can't keep them all for the winter. That's that cows last calf here too. Will keep 25 mostly heifers till next spring/summer and that's my limit. The 290kg calf was out of an aa cow and a bit plain too. The rest all red Lims out of lim cows.

Would it have paid to feed them bulls and heifers about 2kg/day for last 40 days. At say 25c/kg it would have cost you 20 euro/head. You might even have squeezed another 2-3 euro off that depending on what you paid for the ration/nut.

An easy system is to have a fence or a gate with a trough they can come through for the ration.

TITANIUM. · 24-10-2016 10:26PM

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Bit of a double edged sword really, I could calf the majority of my cows in February instead of the middle of April but it's adding a lot of expense to feed them for 2-3 months until we have grass. Not sure I'd be much better off for it. Those calves were lighter than I'd normally have too, normally have the from roughly 280-320kg. No it didn't pay to sell that lad but I can't keep them all for the winter. That's that cows last calf here too. Will keep 25 mostly heifers till next spring/summer and that's my limit. The 290kg calf was out of an aa cow and a bit plain too. The rest all red Lims out of lim cows.

Ya I hear what your saying. Sometimes less really is more.and if it works for you than keep at it. Do you think the lighter weights were down to the year?

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