Clean up after you, you inconsiderate pig (Fast food restaurants rant)

lawred2 · 24-10-2016 12:44PM

No

HensVassal wrote: »

darkpagandeath wrote: »

People get paid to clean up.

Do you throw your rubbish on the footpath rather than putting it in the bin just because there are council workers paid to tidy the streets?

Sure you'd be doing them out of a job

Minderbinder · 24-10-2016 12:45PM

lawred2 wrote: »

Minderbinder wrote: »

What is so special about these fast food places? Instead of being adequately staffed they had the clever idea of brainwashing their customers into thinking we should work for them.

The more people that don't help them, the sooner they'll improve their service.

Credit to them for making this a social etiquette where by it's frowned upon if you don't clean up after yourself after paying 12 for a burger and chips. I won't be participating however.

Well I don't know about yourself but I've never paid 12 for a burger and chips outside of somewhere that provides seated table service.

Seated table service is not self service which is the category that McD, Bk, SuperMacs etc all fit into. I would have thought that the words self service in themselves were self explanatory to even the most dimmest of dim people.

Nobody is expecting you to clear your own table where there is table service.

But hey - you keep on fighting the good fight.

Who decides what category they are in? Themselves? I'm not fighting anyone. You go ahead and do what you have to do as suggested by some of the most profitable restaurants on the planet. I ain't making up for their staff shortages.

sashafierce · 24-10-2016 12:49PM

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ohnonotgmail · 24-10-2016 12:51PM

sashafierce wrote: »

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because they are the exact same thing, right?

sashafierce · 24-10-2016 12:56PM

No

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Advbrd · 24-10-2016 12:59PM

No

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I only do that if its in the disabled zone and i am in the Jag.

HensVassal · 24-10-2016 01:02PM

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

When people are eating in the establishment what the hell is wrong with serving the food on paper plates and not boxes , wrappers and packaging all over the place? Absolute waste of resources.

OP you are focusing on the wrong element here, change the mindset of the establishment and you're half way there.

Some people want to take their food out of the establishment.
Also you'll notice that the burgers are made and then put into a rack to keep them warm until the person serving at the counter is ready to dispatch the food to the customer. Putting the burger on a paper plate rather than in a paper box is not really feasible. The place would be even messier with lettuce and onions and tomato falling all over the place. And how is a paper plate any less messy than a paper box?

learn_more · 24-10-2016 01:04PM

I don't think fast food is particularly cheap anymore and I think the fast food restaurants should offer a bit more by constantly having someone go round and clear up the tables.

Another point is that if a customer does clear the table , they don't clean it down with a sanitizer. I don't like it when I take a seat at a table that looked clean from afar but when I sit down notice it's smeared with a bit of ketchup and coke spill. It's not so much the keptchup rather the germs that might be left by the previous customer.

Advbrd · 24-10-2016 01:08PM

No

learn_more wrote: »

I don't think fast food is particularly cheap anymore and I think the fast food restaurants should offer a bit more by constantly having someone go round and clear up the tables.

Another point is that if a customer does clear the table , they don't clean it down with a sanitizer. I don't like it when I take a seat at a table that looked clean from afar but when I sit down notice it's smeared with a bit of ketchup and coke spill. It's not so much the keptchup rather the germs that might be left by the previous customer.

Do you touch toilet door handles? Do you shake hands with people?

Buckfast W · 24-10-2016 01:38PM

This thread is getting crazy yo. Sometimes I clean up after myself sometimes I don't it depends.

I worked in a pub for many years and sometimes customers would take their glasses up to the bar and sometimes they wouldn't. Didn't really bother me as this was part of my job description. Same as anyone who works in a fast food place, I'm sure that it's made clear from day one that their duties will include cleaning of the premises. People might complain but that's the way it is. At the end of the day the company that's providing the service has a responsibility to make sure that their premises is clean not the customer.

And before anyone says anything I'm talking about leaving a bit of a mess on the table not people taking a dump on the floor. (Which working in a pub I've had to clean)

HensVassal · 24-10-2016 01:41PM

Minderbinder wrote: »

Who decides what category they are in? Themselves? I'm not fighting anyone. You go ahead and do what you have to do as suggested by some of the most profitable restaurants on the planet. I ain't making up for their staff shortages.

If you went to the Phoenix Park and had a picnic would you leave all your rubbish scattered around on the grass? Would you whinge that the place was understaffed because you actually had to clean up after yourself rather than having a park caretaker clean up your mess?

ohnonotgmail · 24-10-2016 01:45PM

HensVassal wrote: »

If you went to the Phoenix Park and had a picnic would you leave all your rubbish scattered around on the grass? Would you whinge that the place was understaffed because you actually had to clean up after yourself rather than having a park caretaker clean up your mess?

Again with the ridiculous analogies.

ScumLord · 24-10-2016 01:56PM

If I'm going out spending McDonalds money on a fine dining experience then the mess is someone else's problem.

learn_more wrote: »

I don't think fast food is particularly cheap anymore

It's still extremely cheap.

uck51js9zml2yt · 24-10-2016 02:03PM

I'm waiting on a new thread entitled "they took our jobs"
After advocating the cleaning up if oneself in a fast food outlet,staff complain about the loss of their jobs to these selfish idiots.
Said staff would go on strike ( if unionised) to protest at this blatant thievery.
Paul Murphy and crew replied with their usual diatribe and called it political discrimination and outsourcing of respectable employees jobs!

HensVassal · 24-10-2016 02:04PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Again with the ridiculous analogies.

Why is it a ridiculous analogy?

The poster bemoaned cleaning up after themselves and put it down to there being an employee there to clean away the mess. They also stated that it's not their problem and that if there was rubbish everywhere it's because the place was understaffed.

If you left junk strewn all over the place in a park or beach would you have the same attitude? Screw the council! They're paid to clean up after me and if they don't then they are understaffed?

ohnonotgmail · 24-10-2016 02:16PM

HensVassal wrote: »

Why is it a ridiculous analogy?

The poster bemoaned cleaning up after themselves and put it down to there being an employee there to clean away the mess. They also stated that it's not their problem and that if there was rubbish everywhere it's because the place was understaffed.

If you left junk strewn all over the place in a park or beach would you have the same attitude? Screw the council! They're paid to clean up after me and if they don't then they are understaffed?

One is an establishment where you are paying for goods. one is a public park. Different situations.

HensVassal · 24-10-2016 02:28PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

One is an establishment where you are paying for goods. one is a public park. Different situations.

You pay for goods in a shop. Do you sling the wrapper of your sandwich or icepop on the floor and walk out?

And they maybe "different" situations but the logic applies to both. There are people paid to work in the fast food places and keep the place tidy just like there are people employed to keep the park tidy. It doesn't matter a damn that one is a business and the other is a public place. Why don't you leave litter in the park yet will leave litter in the restaurant? There is a person paid to keep both places tidy yet you will mess up one place and use this excuse yet you won't apply the same rationale to the park. Why?

And you claim it's a ridiculous analogy.

osarusan · 24-10-2016 02:30PM

I PAY MY TAX THAT PAYS FOR PARK STAFF SO I'LL DUMP MY STUFF THERE IF I WANT TO.

Yeah.

ohnonotgmail · 24-10-2016 02:31PM

HensVassal wrote: »

You pay for goods in a shop. Do you sling the wrapper of your sandwich or icepop on the floor and walk out?

And they maybe "different" situations but the logic applies to both. There are people paid to work in the fast food places and keep the place tidy just like there are people employed to keep the park tidy. It doesn't matter a damn that one is a business and the other is a public place. Why don't you leave litter in the park yet will leave litter in the restaurant? There is a person paid to keep both places tidy yet you will mess up one place and use this excuse yet you won't apply the same rationale to the park. Why?

And you claim it's a ridiculous analogy.

i may as well be talking to the wall.

sashafierce · 24-10-2016 02:44PM

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Walter H Price · 24-10-2016 02:47PM

HensVassal wrote: »

You pay for goods in a shop. Do you sling the wrapper of your sandwich or icepop on the floor and walk out?

And they maybe "different" situations but the logic applies to both. There are people paid to work in the fast food places and keep the place tidy just like there are people employed to keep the park tidy. It doesn't matter a damn that one is a business and the other is a public place. Why don't you leave litter in the park yet will leave litter in the restaurant? There is a person paid to keep both places tidy yet you will mess up one place and use this excuse yet you won't apply the same rationale to the park. Why?

And you claim it's a ridiculous analogy.

It's not the best analogy to be fair , a park or the beach are very different places to a fast food restaurant , like littering in a public place the rubbish can go anywere , looks unsightly, attracts rats etc ... leaving your tray behid in McD's or BK just means either the staff or the next person who wants the table will clean it up after you its no big deal like.

Definitly not worth getting worked up about , half the time i'll take the food off the tray and just chuck the tray on an empty table beside or whatever to get it out of the way and either a staff memeber or whoever wants the other table will take it away or put it somewhere else. like so long as your not going out of your way to dirty the place , make a mess or vandalise it i dont think the staff really give a sh!t weather or not you clear your own table

learn_more · 24-10-2016 02:49PM

Advbrd wrote: »

Do you touch toilet door handles? Do you shake hands with people?

Is your point that one can't totally shield oneself from germs completely so I should just accept it at a restaurant table as well ? Hmm.

I don't eat food when I'm shaking hands with someone or when I'm in the bathroom either.

The point is I won't enjoy the food that I pay for if I'm sitting at a table that hasn't been properly sanitised, not so much that I'll develop a cold after I leave. Again I don't think fast food is really that cheap and a clean sanitised table should be included in the price and that can only be provided by the staff in the restaurant. It can't and shouldn't be provided by the previous customer.

Poor Uncle Tom · 24-10-2016 03:04PM

ScumLord wrote: »

It's still extremely cheap.

Actually, it can't be considered extremely cheap when it costs approximately 500% more that the equivolent meal would cost you to make at home.

ScumLord · 24-10-2016 03:23PM

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

Actually, it can't be considered extremely cheap when it costs approximately 500% more that the equivolent meal would cost you to make at home.

You don't pay staff to make it for you at home. As far as I can remember a McDonalds meal cost around €6-9. That's about the same as a ready meal in a shop. If you had to buy all the bits you need to make it at home it would also cost more than a McDonalds meal, you'd also probably need to eat burgers and chips for 4 days to use up all the stuff you bought.

WhoWhatWhere · 24-10-2016 03:32PM

No

ScumLord wrote: »

You don't pay staff to make it for you at home. As far as I can remember a McDonalds meal cost around €6-9. That's about the same as a ready meal in a shop. If you had to buy all the bits you need to make it at home it would also cost more than a McDonalds meal, you'd also probably need to eat burgers and chips for 4 days to use up all the stuff you bought.

If it was possible to purchase just the right amount of ingredients to make the food at home it would cost less, but only slightly so. You'd save a couple euro on the food, but that's not including the electric used to power the deep frier for chips, pan for burger & toaster for buns. Places like McDonald's don't make a fortune off each burger sold, they make a lot of money because theres a lot of them, it's nothing to do with some conspiracy about hiring less staff than needed to run the place and brainwashing the public into cleaning. That's just mental. And this is hardly just about McD's, what about the Mom & Pops chippers? People.

Melisandre121 · 24-10-2016 04:38PM

No

I used to work in a restaurant and it really bothered me when people left the table in an absolute mess. Sometimes they'd have spilt drinks and not bothered to even lift the glass back up. Every time I had to clean up after these people in my head I'd think "disrespectful pigs".

Robsweezie · 24-10-2016 05:49PM

No

delighted that common decency has won over with 80% of the poll.

i started a thread on this a while ago. the ''putting people out of a job,'' is a cop out and a weak rebuttal for carelessness. it may seem like such a small, trivial thing, but to me it appears as a litmus test as to who has manners and who needs to brush up on theirs.

in short, clean up your own ****. leave everything as you found it. this attitude of ''someone else's job'' stinks, however technically correct (job description)...but morally...come on. set an example to the kids.

apathy, not my problem, fuuck you jack, im alright. ugly, ugly trait.

learn_more · 24-10-2016 09:51PM

ScumLord wrote: »

If I'm going out spending McDonalds money on a fine dining experience then the mess is someone else's problem.

It's still extremely cheap.

I think it's largely garbage frozen food , deep fried to order, and in that sense I think it's expensive. I don't mean it's a lot of money in itself. The turnover in these joints is huge. Classic pile em high and sell em cheep strategy involved also.

The Rape of Lucretia · 24-10-2016 10:37PM

HensVassal wrote: »

You pay for goods in a shop. Do you sling the wrapper of your sandwich or icepop on the floor and walk out?

No, of course you dont. No more than you would go to a restaurant of any sort, even not a fast food one, and expect people to clean the food, prepare it, cook it, and bring it out to you while you just sit at your table.
What's next ? Just sit there after you are finished and expect someone to come and take away your empty plate from in front of you ?
Why dont you get them to do the washing up as well you lazy git if that is your attitude ?

Clean up after you, you inconsiderate pig (Fast food restaurants rant)

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