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Conscription

  • 22-10-2016 06:03AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭


    Men were put out there to face the line, a member of my family died in the Great War.

    My grandfather his son died during WW2. (RAF)

    These men gave it all, they gave their lives.

    I wouldn't be very confident if a conscription call was given today.

    Men seem to be acting like nancy boys or emotional wrecks. You'd want a proper men putting the head forward. Men of Honour.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    So which one are you OP, man of honour or nancy boy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    Men were put out there to face the line, a member of my family died in the Great War.

    My grandfather his son died during WW2. (RAF)

    These men gave it all, they gave their lives.

    I wouldn't be very confident if a conscription call was given today.

    Men seem to be acting like nancy boys or emotional wrecks. You'd want a proper men putting the head forward. Men of Honour.

    Why don't you act like a man of honour and volunteer to go and fight ISIS.With the attitude you've shown in your post I assume you are a real man and I predict you'll end the conflict in a matter of weeks.

    Not really surprising men today wouldn't be too happy with being conscripted. There is nothing worse than being forced to fight/die for something you don't believe in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    My grandfather his son died during WW2. (RAF)

    Your uncle?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Advbrd


    Men were put out there to face the line, a member of my family died in the Great War.

    My grandfather his son died during WW2. (RAF)

    These men gave it all, they gave their lives.

    I wouldn't be very confident if a conscription call was given today.

    Men seem to be acting like nancy boys or emotional wrecks. You'd want a proper men putting the head forward. Men of Honour.

    What a nonsense post. I presume you have been drinking all night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    You talking about conscription or national service?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Oh, how I yearn for the days when young working class men who didn't even have a vote were sent off to French trenches to be slaughtered for the delusions of their betters


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    Conscription, a really dumb idea that saw millions of young men slaughtered

    Note to Hillary- this is why men are actually the real victims of war


  • Posts: 5,249 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Has there ever been conscription in this country?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    Has there ever been conscription in this country?

    With conscription, motivation will be difficult, particularly when things are not going your way.Vietnam is a prime example.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    The reason conscription was introduced in Britain was they were running out of volunteers who had been all blown to smithereens. Most folk thought the war be over by that Christmas.

    Having said that imo conscription in Ireland today could put some fitness, stability and discipline into our young folks for a year or maybe two.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    Has there ever been conscription in this country?


    A conscription law was passed but was never put in effect; no one in Ireland was drafted into the British Army. The proposal and backlash galvanised support for political parties which advocated Irish separatism and influenced events in the lead-up to the Irish War of Independence.

    https://www.google.es/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiBsKGd-u3PAhULtRQKHUl5CvcQFggeMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FConscription_Crisis_of_1918&usg=AFQjCNEMcrND66o335LK-RtzcIfu5UE_Dw&sig2=RCVUOzKU2DkNLcePDLDsyg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    Men were put out there to face the line, a member of my family died in the Great War.

    My grandfather his son died during WW2. (RAF)

    These men gave it all, they gave their lives.

    I wouldn't be very confident if a conscription call was given today.

    Men seem to be acting like nancy boys or emotional wrecks. You'd want a proper men putting the head forward. Men of Honour.

    If you think a man can only be a proper man if he's forced (conscription) to be cannon fodder you need medical intervention from the two men in white coats variety


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    People automatically think of WW1 when talking about conscription and the needles slaughter of the working class. What if the generation of Brits and yanks in WW2 rejected conscription? Would we all be speaking German now?
    Citizens have never been as eager to exercise their rights but have little appetite for defending them.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    People automatically think of WW1 when talking about conscription and the needles slaughter of the working class. What if the generation of Brits and yanks in WW2 rejected conscription? Would we all be speaking German now?
    Citizens have never been as eager to exercise their rights but have little appetite for defending them.

    There are plenty of wars currently going on around the world if any man wants to prove he is a proper man - no conscription in Ireland required.

    Personally I think Ireland was right to proclaim neutrality in WW2, however if it were the case it was required to defend the country then conscription would be appropriate.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭me_right_one


    So far, 8 nancy boy anti-conscription posts. Typical of boards. I believe every 18 year old should be made do 2 years national service, war or not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Advbrd


    Its a case of "your country needs you" vs "i ain't got no quarrel with them viet cong"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    People automatically think of WW1 when talking about conscription and the needles slaughter of the working class. What if the generation of Brits and yanks in WW2 rejected conscription? Would we all be speaking German now?
    Citizens have never been as eager to exercise their rights but have little appetite for defending them.

    It has been cancelled in the USA since 1973 and it doesn't seemed to have any effect on there foreign policy's.

    Sweden had conscription in its people up to a few years ago, even though they were neutral during the two world wars.


    Some folks say having a professional trained Army is much better than a forced conscription Army where the strength/will to fight is not as ingrained ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    So far, 8 nancy boy anti-conscription posts. Typical of boards. I believe every 18 year old should be made do 2 years national service, war or not.

    I assume you're not 18


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Reckon the op would be shot in the back fairly quickly by his fellow conscripted nancy boys.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭me_right_one


    Collie D wrote: »
    I assume you're not 18

    Why do you assume that?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Why do you assume that?

    Because the idea of national service or conscription is one that is usually touted by those who won't have to do it.

    My assumption is open to correction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    Why do you assume that?




    Why do you assume that anyone against conscription is a Nancy boy ?




    nancy boy

    an effeminate man; what gay men were called back in the days when gay meant happy

    That feller was always a little funny, if you know what I mean. A real nancy boy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Commotion Ocean


    So far, 8 nancy boy anti-conscription posts. Typical of boards. I believe every 18 year old should be made do 2 years national service, war or not.

    And should girls have to do it too?

    Or would that be too much equality for the feminists?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    RAMBO


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    So far, 8 nancy boy anti-conscription posts. Typical of boards. I believe every 18 year old should be made do 2 years national service, war or not.

    National Service costs money....we don't have money.

    Have you enlisted for state service yourself?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭me_right_one


    Collie D wrote: »
    Because the idea of national service or conscription is one that is usually touted by those who won't have to do it.

    My assumption is open to correction.


    I assume you ARE 18 so. I assume that you have no backbone, would flinch at the sight of a rifle, and would like to join the UK as part of a sub-category of a province. I assume you are a fine gael voter, you think gayness is ok, and you would like abortion to be normalised to the point that you could get "abortion vouchers" to be available as birthday / Christmas presents.

    My assumption is open to correction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    I assume you ARE 18 so. I assume that you have no backbone, would flinch at the sight of a rifle, and would like to join the UK as part of a sub-category of a province. I assume you are a fine gael voter, you think gayness is ok, and you would like abortion to be normalised to the point that you could get "abortion vouchers" to be available as birthday / Christmas presents.

    My assumption is open to correction.

    Laughable. I'm 36 by the way. You?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    What is it good for?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    conscription - none of them would be capable. would have te surgically removed from their phone and their mammy first.
    national service - might sort out both of the above.

    future of country looks bleak:(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    Reckon the op would be shot in the back fairly quickly by his fellow conscripted nancy boys.

    That's one way of putting it.


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