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Dublin Marathon 2016 - Mentored Novices Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    nop98 wrote: »
    Last year, it was quite cold before the start and I wore an extra running layer. I was regretting it within a few miles, then spend most of Chesterfield Avenue juggling to take it off from under my t-shirt with the bib on it. A friend of mine was waiting in Castleknock so I sort-of flung it in his face as I ran by. I spent all about 3 minutes feeling guilty about that. :D

    oh yeah, any extra layers you might wear go on over your singlet/t-shirt with the number on it.

    At about five to 9 on the day there'll be a rain of clothes going from the pens out to the paths on the side...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,916 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    seanin4711 wrote: »
    HM PB 1:49 way back!

    Clonakilty:D:D:D

    You know your training and your body best, but a HM-length training run at faster than current HM pace, 10 days out? Unusual. Let's hope your approach works - after 7 marathons you probably know what you're doing, baby! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,237 ✭✭✭andrew1977


    Havnt run since last Saturday due to resting up my tired body/physio treatment and slight calf strain.

    Got a great rest during the past couple of nights sleep, woke up this morning with the urge to run .
    Take it handy on my run this afternoon ? 8-9 miles max .
    Sounds ok ?


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,887 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    Single-figure days left to the big day. It has just hit me. Like a high-speed train!! :eek:

    Hope everyone is doing ok and steering clear of injury and illness. Last "long" run for me tonight, 8 miles easy. Have been so cautious running this week - no hills, safe paths, easy pace, watching every kerb like a hawk etc. :)

    Just want to get to the start line at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭ToriV


    PauloMN wrote: »
    Single-figure days left to the big day. It has just hit me. Like a high-speed train!! :eek:

    Hope everyone is doing ok and steering clear of injury and illness. Last "long" run for me tonight, 8 miles easy. Have been so cautious running this week - no hills, safe paths, easy pace, watching every kerb like a hawk etc. :)

    Just want to get to the start line at this stage.

    And no paths with leaves. Leaves are deadly....I swear ilI be wearing a tin foil hat this time next week!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭All or nothing


    I had a really good session with my physio last night. 90 mins in total. She did more work on both my feet including lots of dry needling on my right foot. She did 45 mins sports massage then.
    Not as painful as I was expecting, although I think she might have been going a bit easy on me.

    I can feel a cold coming on today so lots of vitamin C and Manuka honey for the next few days. Better get something now rather than this time next week. Are you better off giving the 8 mile LSR a miss this weekend if you have a bit of a cold. More to be lost than gained from it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭robinwing


    I wonder how many of the 19500 entrants will actually start the race ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭kittyclaws


    PauloMN wrote: »
    Single-figure days left to the big day. It has just hit me. Like a high-speed train!! :eek:

    Hope everyone is doing ok and steering clear of injury and illness. Last "long" run for me tonight, 8 miles easy. Have been so cautious running this week - no hills, safe paths, easy pace, watching every kerb like a hawk etc. :)

    Just want to get to the start line at this stage.


    Today next week is Expo Day!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,916 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    robinwing wrote: »
    I wonder how many of the 19500 entrants will actually start the race ?

    About 17,000, I'd say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,237 ✭✭✭andrew1977


    16k lsr done this afternoon, emotions ranged from struggling to get going/wanting to up the pace/better slow down/I feel injured/I feel fit as a fiddle/I will make the finish line/I will never run the marathon/should I keep going/should I stop.😄
    Glad I done it now, feet up now for the weekend.
    I will be locked up in the asylum by the time this marathon starts.!!


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,887 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    Wonder how they will control the wave starts this time? I'd imagine that you always have people moving up/down waves on the day (or trying to anyway), but given that this year wave 4 is a complete mix of runners I wonder how it will work? I suspect a lot of people in wave 4 are going to try and move up the waves on the day. Will the organisers be strict on this? I can't remember if the number or colour on my bib was checked last time when I entered the wave but I guess they'll have to this time to stop people moving up from wave 4 in particular.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 959 ✭✭✭kin9pin


    PauloMN wrote: »
    Wonder how they will control the wave starts this time? I'd imagine that you always have people moving up/down waves on the day (or trying to anyway), but given that this year wave 4 is a complete mix of runners I wonder how it will work? I suspect a lot of people in wave 4 are going to try and move up the waves on the day. Will the organisers be strict on this? I can't remember if the number or colour on my bib was checked last time when I entered the wave but I guess they'll have to this time to stop people moving up from wave 4 in particular.

    I'd say that's even harder to police if people are wearing old tops to keep warm in the pen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭nop98


    PauloMN wrote: »
    Wonder how they will control the wave starts this time? I'd imagine that you always have people moving up/down waves on the day (or trying to anyway), but given that this year wave 4 is a complete mix of runners I wonder how it will work? I suspect a lot of people in wave 4 are going to try and move up the waves on the day. Will the organisers be strict on this? I can't remember if the number or colour on my bib was checked last time when I entered the wave but I guess they'll have to this time to stop people moving up from wave 4 in particular.
    kin9pin wrote: »
    I'd say that's even harder to police if people are wearing old tops to keep warm in the pen.

    They were definitely checking bib-colors last year, regardless of layers of clothing. Generally, moving down a wave is fine, moving up is not. If you have a specific request to move up, the recommendation last year was to ask about it at the Expo, however, I don't recall if someone actually did it and managed to change waves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭nop98


    Good luck on your last "long run", folks! :pac:

    I believe both plans call for just 8 miles this weekend. Enjoy it, and as always, don't go too fast. Practice little routines like checking your posture, breathing, and relaxedness regularly. :cool:

    There's is absolutely nothing to be gained clocking up more miles or putting in a hard workout. In fact, you will only damage your chances for the day itself...

    Those of you who might feel better served with less mileage, do whatever feels right... Keep us posted! :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,641 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    ToriV wrote: »
    And no paths with leaves. Leaves are deadly....I swear ilI be wearing a tin foil hat this time next week!

    The right tinge of brown/red/orange looks very well with the naked eye, something no Instagram filter can replicate.

    Physio I was at discussed stretches. I was going to mention the brain leg drain, but I couldn't remember who invented it - FITZA or Firedance. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    In addition to my achilles problem, I now also appear to have a throat infection. I'm angry. :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    The right tinge of brown/red/orange looks very well with the naked eye, something no Instagram filter can replicate.

    Physio I was at discussed stretches. I was going to mention the brain leg drain, but I couldn't remember who invented it - FITZA or Firedance. :pac:

    Big + 1 on the autumn colours and the inability to capture it properly on camera :)

    The leg drains would be me, but I didn't invent them, a previous running coach of mine was a big fan, and she has many many marathons under her belt!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    In addition to my achilles problem, I now also appear to have a throat infection. I'm angry. :mad:

    :(:(:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Dubgal72


    Hi Novices. Enjoy the few days left of being called this. In nine days you become Graduates :cool:


    So you're all being calm, serene models of zen, right? No fretting about the weather, no over-dosing on pre-race nerves....NO OBSESSING ABOUT TARGETS, ok?!



    This week is where you need to put the final touches to TITT (trust in the taper).


    You have done the training, 'the hay is in the barn'. You've stuck to the plan, covered the miles, got the blisters, the sore muscles and probably a few PBs along the way. Your only job now is to get to the start line refreshed and raring to go having spent the last two weeks allowing your body to make all the lovely adaptions from all the hard work you've done. You can do this on two levels, mentally and physically:



    THE UNCONTROLLABLES

    Don't dwell on the uncontrollables, such as weather. Why waste nervous energy on what you can't control? Firstly, you can't control it and secondly, you are going to need every single ounce of all your energy!



    THE CONTROLLABLES

    Over the next nine days, make sure at least seven of these are restful, unbroken good nights of sleep; at least eight hours starting as far before midnight as you can. You may not sleep very well next Saturday night but if you have banked enough sleep credit in the preceding nights, this will not matter at all. My dad, a very experienced runner, always says its the second night's sleep before a race that is crucial.



    IMPORTANT INCIDENTALS
    • Now is NOT the week to move furniture. Don't lift anything heavier than your running shoes ;)
    • Have any massage/treatment earlier in the week than later. If later in the week, make sure the intensity is lowered accordingly.
    • Line up some non-running books and films to read and watch
    • Be nice to your family and loved ones. They have put up with 'Marathon You' for six months. Now they are getting 'Crazy Taper You'. I repeat, be nice to them!


    TARGETS

    Don't get hung up on targets. I know you are and nothing we here on boards can say will persuade you not to be. We've been there. If it starts to go wrong, have the courage to adjust, sooner rather than later. Have a back up plan. A distressed mile in a marathon can feel like four :eek:

    You should feel like you are jogging for the first 10 miles. It might start to pinch a teensy bit - only slightly - at 13 miles. Fatigue will start to set in at 18 miles but if you have paced yourself correctly, you will have enough left to start the final dig at 20 miles, WHEN THE RACE REALLY STARTS



    YES,
    IT'S A 20 MILE WARM UP FOR A 6 MILE RACE


    Noel Carroll, an Olympian and one of the founders of DCM wisely said that


    It's not the distance that will kill you, but the pace.....



    Start. Off. Slow.

    You will gain it back later in the race. I promise....



    Start off too fast too soon?


    You. Will. Suffer. Horribly. I swear.....


    Your main objective is to enjoy the day. You have dedicated months and miles to achieving this goal. Make sure you bloody relish it.



    SMILE


    RUN TALL


    BREATHE


    RELAX



    HIGH FIVE YOUR SUPPORTERS



    THANK THE STEWARDS, THE PACERS AND WATER PROVIDERS


    Most importantly,


    DO AS YOU'RE TOLD!!!!



    You are so lucky to have been in Nop's hands this year. The biggest kudos to Nop and the back room crew. One last job for ye: Make sure they don't put their hands in their pockets all day in McGrattan's ;)



    Best of everything to you, Novices of 2016 :cool:

    DG


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,641 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    nop98 wrote: »
    Good luck on your last "long run", folks! :pac:

    I believe both plans call for just 8 miles this weekend. Enjoy it, and as always, don't go too fast. Practice little routines like checking your posture, breathing, and relaxedness regularly. :cool:

    There's is absolutely nothing to be gained clocking up more miles or putting in a hard workout. In fact, you will only damage your chances for the day itself...

    Those of you who might feel better served with less mileage, do whatever feels right... Keep us posted! :)

    Be honest now, you expect most of us to do a little dance after tomorrow's LSR...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭scotindublin


    Sunday again for my 8 miles this week....may get a few easy miles in the morning.

    Take care everyone!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    In addition to my achilles problem, I now also appear to have a throat infection. I'm angry. :mad:

    I diagnose a classic case of maranoia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭robinwing




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Mrs Mc


    Ya gotta love DG posting just when we need her. Thanks so much for that post A couldn't have come at a better time :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Pomplamousse


    Things not to do when you're already suffering from taper madness:

    -do a yawn/stretch thing and cause yourself to pull or strain a muscle in your side. It hurts. It's not near my legs so I'm really hoping I'll be ok during tomorrow's run. I booked another sports massage for after tomorrow's run so if it's still sore I'll get the physio to have a look.

    -reverse into the side of someone's parked car. Waiting for the angry phone call:( I don't think they'll accept taper madness as an excuse for me not to pay for any damages. So annoyed with myself I could cry:(
    In addition to my achilles problem, I now also appear to have a throat infection. I'm angry. :mad:

    I got two of those during training. If you haven't already been to a Dr and it doesn't start to improve by the end of the weekend, definitely go to a Dr. I let it drag on longer than I should have, needed antibiotics in the end but once I started taking them I was back running & feeling back to normal pretty quickly.

    Hope everyone else is having a better day than I am:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭nop98


    Dubgal72 wrote: »
    Hi Novices. Enjoy the few days left of being called this. In nine days you become Graduates :cool:

    ...

    DG

    Thank you so much for your wise words, DG! :) Mandatory reading for everybody! :cool: I am sure the 2016 class will do you very proud (don't let me down now, y'all).

    This just about makes 80% of my opening post for next week redundant! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭nop98


    Yikes. This can be added to the list of "things to avoid during tapering". I thought that the IKEA story was hard to beat, but this comes close I have to say.

    Hope your weekend gets better, Pomplamousse. :(
    -reverse into the side of someone's parked car. Waiting for the angry phone call:( I don't think they'll accept taper madness as an excuse for me not to pay for any damages. So annoyed with myself I could cry:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Dubgal72


    nop98 wrote: »
    Thank you so much for your wise words, DG! :) Mandatory reading for everybody! :cool: I am sure the 2016 class will do you very proud (don't let me down now, y'all).

    This just about makes 80% of my opening post for next week redundant! :rolleyes:

    Nah, ten pages will have passed by Monday and it will need to be said again....and again :D:D

    And am so proud of ya...son :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,916 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    kin9pin wrote: »
    I'd say that's even harder to police if people are wearing old tops to keep warm in the pen.

    Right. Like no one ever wore an old top in previous years. :rolleyes: :) It's highly unlikely your race will be run badly because you started in a late pen. Plenty room on the course. Have a good one, from wherever you start.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭Wubble Wubble


    Sat 22/10 - Planned - 8 Mile LSR. Actual - 4.5 miles @ 9:58 p/m (overall)

    Due to other commitments e.g. parkrun volunteering and college assignments, I had to get out early for this. I headed for Tír na nÓg with the aim of completing 16 half mile laps. First lap took me 5:43, the second 5:22, till I decided to pick up the pace to around 4:45 per lap. No problems really, as the darkness was slowly receding over D15. However, by Lap 9 I could feel my ITB complaining again. Not severe or anything like it, but enough to make me decide finishing out the LSR was not a good idea; sure there's only 8 days left. At the end of the lap, I pulled the plug and shuffled home. Better at this stage to be overcautious than overcareless. Stretched it out a bit more when I got home, and now it feels ok again.

    Physio appointment on Tuesday during lunchtime; I won't do any running before then, just to be on the safe side. Good luck all with your LSRs :D


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