hypocritical meat eater...

ThisRegard · 20-10-2016 10:12AM

Ragnar Lothbrok wrote: »

Ah, but surely lambs are cuter than most animals, yet people eat lamb without a problem.

They bloody don't. I like the taste of lamb, but can rarely bring myself to ask for it in restaurant. We have to tell my daughter that the meat she's eating is from a 'special' type of cow, chicken or pig, and not from the cows, chickens or pigs she normally sees.

elefant · 20-10-2016 10:14AM

ThisRegard wrote: »

They bloody don't. I like the taste of lamb, but can rarely bring myself to ask for it in restaurant. We have to tell my daughter that the meat she's eating is from a 'special' type of animal and not from the cows, chickens or pigs she normally sees.

Ah, most people bloody do though, to be fair.

ThisRegard · 20-10-2016 10:15AM

I know, but there's a good few who don't, well at least 2 in my house, and that's 50%, so I'm using after hours logic by applying that 50% to the broader population.

uck51js9zml2yt · 20-10-2016 10:16AM

It's the Bambi factor.
Next time you buy them, let me know and I'll come for dinner:)

osarusan · 20-10-2016 10:23AM

I'm not really seeing any hypocrisy, just personal preference (coming from cultural norms).

The flying mouse · 20-10-2016 10:25AM

My problem is and always has been I not fussy what I eat...

The flying mouse · 20-10-2016 10:27AM

Dead deer equals expensive.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 20-10-2016 10:27AM

ThisRegard wrote: »

They bloody don't. I like the taste of lamb, but can rarely bring myself to ask for it in restaurant. We have to tell my daughter that the meat she's eating is from a 'special' type of cow, chicken or pig, and not from the cows, chickens or pigs she normally sees.

Why do you "have" to tell your daughter that? Sounds crazy.

Star_Nupa wrote: »

I'd be pretty p1ssed off too if I was constantly being shot at by a bunch of bellends.

What makes them bellends exactly?

BrokenArrows · 20-10-2016 10:29AM

its no different than vegetarians who dont consider fish worthy of exclusion.

Fish are killed in the worst way of any living creature that we eat. They are suffocated to death on a massive scale.

Can you imagine the killing of cows or sheep by extracting the oxygen from the rooms they are in? It wouldnt be allowed.

Not that i would care. Id eat anything.

Macy0161 · 20-10-2016 10:31AM

Deer are plentiful in Ireland, in fact over populated (hence there has to be culled). I'd nearly go as far as suggesting they're so plentiful in some spots they're bordering on vermin and certainly at nuisance levels (certainly for me trying to grow hedges, and fruit and veg).

Regarding Bambi burgers - a lot of people think the meat is too lean for burgers, but I like them.

jimgoose · 20-10-2016 10:35AM

Deer are responsible for the persecution of noble creatures like the timber wolf. They've been getting away with murder for centuries with their cute, gentle furriness, Bambi and so forth. It's all a lie, I tells ye - deer are dumb, destructive, passive-aggressive bastards that deserve to be culled regularly and eaten. Fuck deer. Right between the eyes. With a .300 Winmag. :pac:

BrokenArrows · 20-10-2016 10:35AM

Macy0161 wrote: »

Deer are plentiful in Ireland, in fact over populated (hence there has to be culled). I'd nearly go as far as suggesting they're so plentiful in some spots they're bordering on vermin and certainly at nuisance levels (certainly for me trying to grow hedges, and fruit and veg).

Regarding Bambi burgers - a lot of people think the meat is too lean for burgers, but I like them.

What locations in the country do they have this many wild deer? I wasnt aware we had a massive population.

razorblunt · 20-10-2016 10:36AM

The best venison I ate was in a Scottish Hotel way up in the Highlands. I figured it would be local and great ... it was.

I asked if the venison was sourced locally and the waiter replied "Locally? The gamekeeper for the estate brings one or two around every few days, Shelly over there was closing up the other night and she heard a knock at the window, she looked out and there was a deer looking back in at her, the 'keeper does it weekly to keep her on her toes".

Poor ol Shelly looked shook.

Alun · 20-10-2016 10:38AM

BrokenArrows wrote: »

What locations in the country do they have this many wild deer? I wasnt aware we had a massive population.

Wicklow for one, mainly Sika.

AlanG · 20-10-2016 10:46AM

BrokenArrows wrote: »

Fish are killed in the worst way of any living creature that we eat. They are suffocated to death on a massive scale.

Can you imagine the killing of cows or sheep by extracting the oxygen from the rooms they are in? It wouldnt be allowed.

There are very few creatures killed by humans that suffer a worse death than the way the average creature dies in the wild. Most creatures are eaten alive and devoured by acid, while most larger ones are ripped limb from limb while still alive.
David Attenborough edits out most kills because he feels people couldn't take the cruelty of nature nature.

I live in the city but have been totally honest with my kids as to where the food they eat has come from. They don't have much of a problem with it, that's just life. I want my meat killed quick and painlessly and i want the whole carcass used if possible so long as it is safe.

Macy0161 · 20-10-2016 10:53AM

BrokenArrows wrote: »

What locations in the country do they have this many wild deer? I wasnt aware we had a massive population.

Wicklow - Sika hybrids.

I don't live that high, rural, but on the outskirts of a village, and we see them in the garden during the day. This time of year if we're out at dawn, there can be up to 10 in the garden. They wouldn't let you get too close, but they don't flinch if you just get on with your business.

Lovely to look at, pain in the arse if you're trying to grow anything - you need 6 foot plus fences trying to grow veg or fruit tree's.

pragmatic1 · 20-10-2016 10:57AM

BrokenArrows wrote: »

What locations in the country do they have this many wild deer? I wasnt aware we had a massive population.

A lot of wild deer in Donegal. They can be very dangerous for driving.

pragmatic1 · 20-10-2016 11:00AM

Estrellita wrote: »

I'm not sure what's hypocritical about it, you just have a preference for certain meats. I don't like anything game-y, lamb or any seafood. I was brought up with chicken, turkey, beef and pork. Ive tried other meats and it's not my thing at all.

It's like saying vegetarians that don't like every vegetable going is a hypothetical. Sense it does not make.

Have you ever tried duck? If not you're missing out.

Knockmealdown Shepherd · 20-10-2016 11:05AM

I got a pet salmon a couple of years ago. Put me off eggs royale completely

Tilikum · 20-10-2016 11:06AM

BrokenArrows wrote: »

its no different than vegetarians who dont consider fish worthy of exclusion.

Fish are killed in the worst way of any living creature that we eat. They are suffocated to death on a massive scale.

Can you imagine the killing of cows or sheep by extracting the oxygen from the rooms they are in? It wouldnt be allowed.

Not that i would care. Id eat anything.

I've honestly never met anyone that's eats fish yet calls themself a vegetarian.

20-10-2016 11:09AM

I'm happy to admit I'm hypocritical and flakey when it comes to meat eating. It's bad for the environment, it's not nice how it's made, generally not nice how the animals are raised (in many cases) but I just love it. :pac:

In fairness the horsemeat scandal didn't seem to me to be as big a deal as the media tried to whip it up into, most people seemed to just shrug their shoulders and concede that at the prices they were paying what else could they expect? :P

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 20-10-2016 11:13AM

BrokenArrows wrote: »

What locations in the country do they have this many wild deer? I wasnt aware we had a massive population.

I can only comment on Wicklow from experience, but there's a lot of deer in Kerry also.

Alun wrote: »

Wicklow for one, mainly Sika.

Which are an invasive species, along with Fallow. Deer are not only a problem to gardeners, but also to our forest industry, which is why they are culled every so often.

I seen a heard of deer about 2-3 years ago, I lost count at about 45. I estimated about 60 deer in that heard. Largest I have ever seen.

Venison is very tasty and not too expensive if you know where to buy it.

Ragnar Lothbrok · 20-10-2016 11:14AM

Tilikum wrote: »

I've honestly never met anyone that's eats fish yet calls themself a vegetarian.

As a veggie from birth (hippy parents

) I have been constantly asked stupid questions after I tell people I'm vegetarian: "Yeah, but do you eat fish?" "Do you eat chicken?" etc. Even "Ah, but do you have turkey with your Christmas Dinner?"

My stock replies now are either "I eat nothing with a face" or "I eat nothing that had a mother"

If I wasn't a vegetarian, I don't think I could stomach fish at all. In fact, no sort of seafood smells or looks remotely appealing to me. However, the smell of cooking rashers or steak does sometimes make me drool :eek:

ThisRegard · 20-10-2016 11:15AM

Janelle Tart Tequila wrote: »

Why do you "have" to tell your daughter that? Sounds crazy.

She's at the age where she's emotionally attached to animals. She knows where meat comes from, that's not the issue, but she occasionally gets a twinge of guilt when she eats meat (apart from beef) and asks is she eating a pig/chicken like in grandads?. We just tell her it's not the same type of pig/chicken that granny/grandad has.

It's just a phase and the age she's at, not helped by an older kid she looks up to telling the younger kids she wants to be a vegetarian.

Tilikum wrote: »

I've honestly never met anyone that's eats fish yet calls themself a vegetarian.

I've known more than one.

Absoluvely · 20-10-2016 11:18AM

jockeyboard wrote: »

i told my husband and said they were a new flavour so they wouldnt go in bin....

A new flavour of cow?

Dave_The_Sheep · 20-10-2016 11:22AM

Absoluvely wrote: »

A new flavour of cow?

Venison?

Estrellita · 20-10-2016 11:25AM

pragmatic1 wrote: »

Have you ever tried duck? If not you're missing out.

I have, wouldn't touch it again. Repeated on me something desperate. That's what I get for straying from my reliables :pac:

The flying mouse · 20-10-2016 11:30AM

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Venison?

Does this sort of thread hit you personally Dave

:P

Shenshen · 20-10-2016 11:30AM

BrokenArrows wrote: »

its no different than vegetarians who dont consider fish worthy of exclusion.

Fish are killed in the worst way of any living creature that we eat. They are suffocated to death on a massive scale.

Can you imagine the killing of cows or sheep by extracting the oxygen from the rooms they are in? It wouldnt be allowed.

Not that i would care. Id eat anything.

Only they would not be vegetarians.
Never understood why people who eat fish call themselves vegetarians, I suspect they just like confusing the living daylights out of anybody in the catering business.

Tilikum · 20-10-2016 11:30AM

ThisRegard wrote: »

She's at the age where she's emotionally attached to animals. She knows where meat comes from, that's not the issue, but she occasionally gets a twinge of guilt when she eats meat (apart from beef) and asks is she eating a pig/chicken like in grandads?. We just tell her it's not the same type of pig/chicken that granny/grandad has.

It's just a phase and the age she's at, not helped by an older kid she looks up to telling the younger kids she wants to be a vegetarian.

I've known more than one.

They're not a vegetarian, they're an idiot.

hypocritical meat eater...

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