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hypocritical meat eater...

  • 19-10-2016 5:26pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭


    Bought some venison burgers in the butchers today by accident.
    Felt i couldnt eat them when i realised, didnt want to waste them so i told my husband and said they were a new flavour so they wouldnt go in bin....
    How come i am happy to eat cow but not deer??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    I'd love a bambi burger now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 990 ✭✭✭Ted111


    Venison is not cheap.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    You're not a hypocrite. Its just whatever you're brought up with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    Deer are horrible angry creatures that will jump through your window and literally kill you while you're driving. What did cows ever do to you?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 861 ✭✭✭MeatTwoVeg


    How come i am happy to eat cow but not deer??

    I've no idea, but I find you fascinating.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Whenever I hear mention of venison, it reminds me of this classic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Bought some venison burgers in the butchers today by accident.
    Felt i couldnt eat them when i realised, didnt want to waste them so i told my husband and said they were a new flavour so they wouldnt go in bin....
    How come i am happy to eat cow but not deer??

    For the same reason that people say "Don't eat tuna as it kills dolphins", no one cares unless the animal is cute and tuna/cows aren't cute.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 990 ✭✭✭Ted111




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Ragnar Lothbrok


    Del2005 wrote: »
    For the same reason that people say "Don't eat tuna as it kills dolphins", no one cares unless the animal is cute and tuna/cows aren't cute.

    Ah, but surely lambs are cuter than most animals, yet people eat lamb without a problem.

    As a vegetarian, I don't really understand why meat eaters go mental at the thought of eating horse, dog or even cat. Then again, those animals probably make up a fairly large percentage of the meat in your sausages, burgers, puddings etc, and ye don't even know it :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,499 ✭✭✭✭Caoimhgh1n


    How come i am happy to eat cow but not deer??

    Different cultures. Still very hypocritical in my opinion.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭darlett


    Ah, but surely lambs are cuter than most animals, yet people eat lamb without a problem.

    As a vegetarian, I don't really understand why meat eaters go mental at the thought of eating horse, dog or even cat. Then again, those animals probably make up a fairly large percentage of the meat in your sausages, burgers, puddings etc, and ye don't even know it :D

    All fair points. Aside from the lie of it all, I really couldn't get with the level of disgust people had for the whole horsemeat in my lasagna scandal. It saved a lot of meat going to waste and you didnt notice any difference in yer ready meal muck did you. It was probably the healthiest thing about it.

    It is odd what some people get squeamish about. Everyones happy chewing away on sausage when we know but dont dwell on the way it contains all parts. But then its OMG black pudding contains BLOOD? WHAT DA FUQ, Gross! Steak contains blood. Gravy contains blood.

    I have plenty of hypocrite in me. I'd hate to eat cat. I've had plenty of rabbit and some dog-felt weird about it having both as pets (No...I didnt actually eat them now) but ya know-however cat would be past my point of ok. (Maybe I preferred my cat pet?)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    Del2005 wrote: »
    For the same reason that people say "Don't eat tuna as it kills dolphins", no one cares unless the animal is cute and tuna/cows aren't cute.

    Ah, but surely lambs are cuter than most animals, yet people eat lamb without a problem.

    As a vegetarian, I don't really understand why meat eaters go mental at the thought of eating horse, dog or even cat. Then again, those animals probably make up a fairly large percentage of the meat in your sausages, burgers, puddings etc, and ye don't even know it :D

    "I'm a total animal lover! I spent hundreds of euros on a cute dog from a breed that's had horrible health conditions bred into it when there are dogs languishing in kennels! Ok fine I eat dead animals for pleasure every day but I put videos of that dog on Facebook every day too so don't tell me I don't love animals!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭Star_Nupa


    Deer are horrible angry creatures that will jump through your window and literally kill you while you're driving. What did cows ever do to you?


    I'd be pretty p1ssed off too if I was constantly being shot at by a bunch of bellends.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Dr Crayfish


    You never had an association with animals and it's corresponding meat from an early age. I'm the same, I can't eat duck, deer, horse (my friends used to bbq it when we were in France), or Kangaroo, which is widely eaten in Australia. I rarely (lol) eat beef now either.
    A piece of ham to me has nothing to do with the animal, because I would have enjoyed the taste when I was a toddler without having a clue where it came from. But pigs are intelligent friendly animals. It's sad really.
    I seem to be eating less and less meat as I get older and hopefully the world goes in that direction for the good of ourselves and the planet. But I'm still a hypocrite, for now anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭Hammer89


    Star_Nupa wrote: »
    I'd be pretty p1ssed off too if I was constantly being shot at by a bunch of bellends.

    Me too. I don't know how pornstars hack it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    How come i am happy to eat cow but not deer??

    because you're weird.

    Venison is so so much better than cow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭shane9689


    probably shouldnt have lied to your husband about what hes actually eating. thats messed up. eating venison is fine, butnot telling someone theyre eating it is not right imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭policarp


    Bambi burger with chips, please.

    Might catch on. . . . :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭WhoWhatWhere


    shane9689 wrote: »
    probably shouldnt have lied to your husband about what hes actually eating. thats messed up. eating venison is fine, butnot telling someone theyre eating it is not right imo

    I'm sure he'll live.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    You're missing out because venison is so much nicer than beef. I'd take a nice venison steak over a regular stake any day of the week.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭Full.Duck


    Del2005 wrote: »
    Bought some venison burgers in the butchers today by accident.
    Felt i couldnt eat them when i realised, didnt want to waste them so i told my husband and said they were a new flavour so they wouldnt go in bin....
    How come i am happy to eat cow but not deer??

    For the same reason that people say "Don't eat tuna as it kills dolphins", no one cares unless the animal is cute and tuna/cows aren't cute.
    I beg to differ
    http://coolfunnyanimals.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/funny-cows-pictures-images-2012.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,326 ✭✭✭munster87


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    You're missing out because venison is so much nicer than beef. I'd take a nice venison steak over a regular stake any day of the week.

    Oh deer, I'm sure that'll go down well


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    I ordered a load of philosophy books after reading your post OP.
    I'll need their guidance before even to begin contemplating the enormity of the question you have posed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭Estrellita


    I'm not sure what's hypocritical about it, you just have a preference for certain meats. I don't like anything game-y, lamb or any seafood. I was brought up with chicken, turkey, beef and pork. Ive tried other meats and it's not my thing at all.

    It's like saying vegetarians that don't like every vegetable going is a hypothetical. Sense it does not make.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,672 ✭✭✭elefant


    Estrellita wrote: »
    I'm not sure what's hypocritical about it, you just have a preference for certain meats. I don't like anything game-y, lamb or any seafood. I was brought up with chicken, turkey, beef and pork. Ive tried other meats and it's not my thing at all.

    It's like saying vegetarians that don't like every vegetable going is a hypothetical. Sense it does not make.

    That's a completely different scenario where someone just doesn't like the taste of certain foods. In this situation she's not eating the venison because she doesn't like the idea of eating a deer.

    Personally, I'd eat any meat not belonging to a threatened species. I'd just as readily eat panda meat as cow meat if it tasted good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    because you're weird.

    Venison is so so much better than cow

    Where's the beef?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭Estrellita


    elefant wrote: »
    That's a completely different scenario where someone just doesn't like the taste of certain foods. In this situation she's not eating the venison because she doesn't like the idea of eating a deer.
    Nah, I wouldn't eat deer for either the taste or for what it is. I suppose *some* people are set on the meats they grew up with, everything else is a pet or something to be admired.

    It's a mindset more so than a hypocrisy. I couldn't look at a deer and think it looks delicious, I'd rather watch it in nature. Cows are nice I suppose, but I'd happily walk one to the abattoir for my dinner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    darlett wrote: »
    Steak contains blood.
    No it doesn't. It, like all muscle tissue, contains myoglobin, which is red, admittedly, but it ain't blood. Same goes for gravy made from the juices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,900 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    Del2005 wrote: »
    For the same reason that people say "Don't eat tuna as it kills dolphins", no one cares unless the animal is cute and tuna/cows aren't cute.

    "What are you"

    "I'm an Otter"

    "and what do you do?"

    "I sim around on my back and make cute noises"

    "You're free to go"


    "and what are you?"

    "I'm a cow"

    "Get in the f&*king truck!!"



    Love that Denis Leary sketch


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    darlett wrote: »
    It is odd what some people get squeamish about. Everyones happy chewing away on sausage when we know but dont dwell on the way it contains all parts. But then its OMG black pudding contains BLOOD? WHAT DA FUQ, Gross! Steak contains blood. Gravy contains blood.

    No it doesn't. You desperately need to find a new butcher.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Ah, but surely lambs are cuter than most animals, yet people eat lamb without a problem.

    They bloody don't. I like the taste of lamb, but can rarely bring myself to ask for it in restaurant. We have to tell my daughter that the meat she's eating is from a 'special' type of cow, chicken or pig, and not from the cows, chickens or pigs she normally sees.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,672 ✭✭✭elefant


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    They bloody don't. I like the taste of lamb, but can rarely bring myself to ask for it in restaurant. We have to tell my daughter that the meat she's eating is from a 'special' type of animal and not from the cows, chickens or pigs she normally sees.

    Ah, most people bloody do though, to be fair.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    I know, but there's a good few who don't, well at least 2 in my house, and that's 50%, so I'm using after hours logic by applying that 50% to the broader population.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    It's the Bambi factor.
    Next time you buy them, let me know and I'll come for dinner:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,734 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    I'm not really seeing any hypocrisy, just personal preference (coming from cultural norms).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    My problem is and always has been I not fussy what I eat...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    Dead deer equals expensive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    They bloody don't. I like the taste of lamb, but can rarely bring myself to ask for it in restaurant. We have to tell my daughter that the meat she's eating is from a 'special' type of cow, chicken or pig, and not from the cows, chickens or pigs she normally sees.

    Why do you "have" to tell your daughter that? Sounds crazy.
    Star_Nupa wrote: »
    I'd be pretty p1ssed off too if I was constantly being shot at by a bunch of bellends.

    What makes them bellends exactly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,501 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    its no different than vegetarians who dont consider fish worthy of exclusion.

    Fish are killed in the worst way of any living creature that we eat. They are suffocated to death on a massive scale.

    Can you imagine the killing of cows or sheep by extracting the oxygen from the rooms they are in? It wouldnt be allowed.

    Not that i would care. Id eat anything. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,556 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Deer are plentiful in Ireland, in fact over populated (hence there has to be culled). I'd nearly go as far as suggesting they're so plentiful in some spots they're bordering on vermin and certainly at nuisance levels (certainly for me trying to grow hedges, and fruit and veg).

    Regarding Bambi burgers - a lot of people think the meat is too lean for burgers, but I like them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Deer are responsible for the persecution of noble creatures like the timber wolf. They've been getting away with murder for centuries with their cute, gentle furriness, Bambi and so forth. It's all a lie, I tells ye - deer are dumb, destructive, passive-aggressive bastards that deserve to be culled regularly and eaten. Fuck deer. Right between the eyes. With a .300 Winmag. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,501 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    Deer are plentiful in Ireland, in fact over populated (hence there has to be culled). I'd nearly go as far as suggesting they're so plentiful in some spots they're bordering on vermin and certainly at nuisance levels (certainly for me trying to grow hedges, and fruit and veg).

    Regarding Bambi burgers - a lot of people think the meat is too lean for burgers, but I like them.

    What locations in the country do they have this many wild deer? I wasnt aware we had a massive population.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    The best venison I ate was in a Scottish Hotel way up in the Highlands. I figured it would be local and great ... it was.

    I asked if the venison was sourced locally and the waiter replied "Locally? The gamekeeper for the estate brings one or two around every few days, Shelly over there was closing up the other night and she heard a knock at the window, she looked out and there was a deer looking back in at her, the 'keeper does it weekly to keep her on her toes".

    Poor ol Shelly looked shook.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    What locations in the country do they have this many wild deer? I wasnt aware we had a massive population.
    Wicklow for one, mainly Sika.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭AlanG


    Fish are killed in the worst way of any living creature that we eat. They are suffocated to death on a massive scale.

    Can you imagine the killing of cows or sheep by extracting the oxygen from the rooms they are in? It wouldnt be allowed.

    There are very few creatures killed by humans that suffer a worse death than the way the average creature dies in the wild. Most creatures are eaten alive and devoured by acid, while most larger ones are ripped limb from limb while still alive.
    David Attenborough edits out most kills because he feels people couldn't take the cruelty of nature nature.

    I live in the city but have been totally honest with my kids as to where the food they eat has come from. They don't have much of a problem with it, that's just life. I want my meat killed quick and painlessly and i want the whole carcass used if possible so long as it is safe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,556 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    What locations in the country do they have this many wild deer? I wasnt aware we had a massive population.
    Wicklow - Sika hybrids.

    I don't live that high, rural, but on the outskirts of a village, and we see them in the garden during the day. This time of year if we're out at dawn, there can be up to 10 in the garden. They wouldn't let you get too close, but they don't flinch if you just get on with your business.

    Lovely to look at, pain in the arse if you're trying to grow anything - you need 6 foot plus fences trying to grow veg or fruit tree's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    What locations in the country do they have this many wild deer? I wasnt aware we had a massive population.
    A lot of wild deer in Donegal. They can be very dangerous for driving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Estrellita wrote: »
    I'm not sure what's hypocritical about it, you just have a preference for certain meats. I don't like anything game-y, lamb or any seafood. I was brought up with chicken, turkey, beef and pork. Ive tried other meats and it's not my thing at all.

    It's like saying vegetarians that don't like every vegetable going is a hypothetical. Sense it does not make.
    Have you ever tried duck? If not you're missing out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 Knockmealdown Shepherd


    I got a pet salmon a couple of years ago. Put me off eggs royale completely


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭Tilikum


    its no different than vegetarians who dont consider fish worthy of exclusion.

    Fish are killed in the worst way of any living creature that we eat. They are suffocated to death on a massive scale.

    Can you imagine the killing of cows or sheep by extracting the oxygen from the rooms they are in? It wouldnt be allowed.

    Not that i would care. Id eat anything. :D

    I've honestly never met anyone that's eats fish yet calls themself a vegetarian.


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