Church of Scientology opening on Merrion Square

tipptom · 15-10-2016 06:25PM

More of a movemetarian guy myself.

Who wouldn't want to go to the planet blisstonia when the thingy comes to take us away.

Lovejoy; This so called "new religion" is nothing but a pack of weird rituals and chants designed to take away the money of fools.

Now,Let us say the lords prayer 40 times.....but first let us pass around the collection plate.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 15-10-2016 07:04PM

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

Is this like a Starbucks?

Yes, it's like a Starbucks but without the coffee or muffins.

Skyfarm · 15-10-2016 07:09PM

God be with the days when the only strange people in Ireland were the screamers. Bring them back i say:D

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/the-screamers-26413656.html

learn_more · 15-10-2016 07:09PM

What is it about Merrion Square ? IONA Institute are based there as well I believe. Should be renamed Squares Square.

Skyfarm · 15-10-2016 07:14PM

learn_more wrote: »

What is it about Merrion Square ? IONA Institute are based there as well I believe. Should be renamed Squares Square.

i would name it"the Bermuda square"with the tag ,abandon hope all ye who enter here

Pickpocket · 15-10-2016 07:14PM

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

Yes, it's like a Starbucks but without the coffee or muffins.

So it's just like Starbucks then.

Skyfarm · 15-10-2016 07:15PM

Pickpocket wrote: »

So it's just like Starbucks then.

without the Coffee it's called Starsucks

corner of hells · 15-10-2016 07:29PM

Will there be a monorail?
If there's no monorail , I'm not going.

Grayson · 15-10-2016 07:30PM

I heard they're advertising jobs but the 1 billion year contract seems a bit extreme.

Skyfarm · 15-10-2016 07:32PM

corner of hells wrote: »

Will there be a monorail?
If there's no monorail , I'm not going.

you should claim a corner with a name like that, you could place a sign saying exit on your spot:D

mikeym · 15-10-2016 08:02PM

Would the Church Of Scientology be classed as a secret society?

The_Valeyard · 15-10-2016 08:08PM

I think we can all agree that South Park episode about Scientology is brilliant.

gctest50 · 15-10-2016 08:15PM

What if Iona were only a front for them all along - that'd be some headline

sjb25 · 15-10-2016 08:29PM

corner of hells wrote: »

Will there be a monorail?
If there's no monorail , I'm not going.

Well, sir, there's nothing on earth like a genuine, bona fide, electrified, six-car Monorail! What'd I say?

Infini · 15-10-2016 08:37PM

The_Valeyard wrote: »

I think we can all agree that South Park episode about Scientology is brilliant.

Yeah I agree on that. Considering this organisation is effectively a pseudoreligion with cultist tendandies and whats effectively a pyramid scheme with subversive overtures im surprised this is even opening here expecially with how the internet has blown open the whole thing.

Whats sadder is some people really believe in this scam expecially when some googling exposes some of the seriously dark parts of this pseudoreligion.

corner of hells · 15-10-2016 09:07PM

sjb25 wrote: »

Well, sir, there's nothing on earth like a genuine, bona fide, electrified, six-car Monorail! What'd I say?

MONORAIL !!!!!!!!!!!!!

entropi · 15-10-2016 09:18PM

The_Valeyard wrote: »

I think we can all agree that South Park episode about Scientology is brilliant.

That, and the one about Mormons.

Why people flock to this shiny distraction from reality is beyond me. They should have stayed with the Promise Keepers...

The_Valeyard · 15-10-2016 09:29PM

entropi wrote: »

That, and the one about Mormons.

Why people flock to this shiny distraction from reality is beyond me. They should have stayed with the Promise Keepers...

Have you seen the musical 'the book of Mormon'
Best musical I've ever seen.

RiderOnTheStorm · 15-10-2016 10:35PM

What is a scientologist favourite piece of furniture in Rivendell?

Elrond's cupboard!!

tinkerbell2310 · 15-10-2016 10:45PM

valoren wrote: »

Agreed. Some use it as a means of self improvement, personal development etc.
Nothing at all wrong with that.

But the cult part of Scientology and the trap so to speak is their auditing sessions. You begin to reveal personal or private feelings, thoughts and experiences. It is all written down and documented. When people expose their inner beliefs in such a way, then toxic cults like that use it as a means of control. You start to fear that if you want to leave they might (and do) publicise these private feelings. You feel compelled to stay to prevent that from happening. They can then ask for anything they want. They are particularly fond of tax free 'donations' from uber wealthy members.

My mother was (thankfully) part of a sect in the Catholic Church which does something similar.

It's the neocathechumenate way. It's where you have these groups of people called 'communities' who meet weekly to pray and have mass. You read the gospels, talk about what it means to you personally and sing and dance. So far so good. The whole idea is that you are following the way of Christ, which is the way to be a christian according to the founder. You are made to feel unique, special. When you've become inculcated over the course of a year or so, then to complete your indoctrination you are asked to reveal what your cross in life is. If you are reticent then you are repeatedly told that this is necessary. They insinuate that you are not special and are not part of God's way etc if you fail to reveal the truth in the eyes of Christ. Guilt tripped on a divine scale so to speak.

This is usually a private and very personal thing. They don't accept anything like 'I got a speeding fine last week and my wife doesn't know'.
It must be your biggest sin. And the juicier the better for them, particularly anything sexual from what I've read.

It could be that you were sexually abused as a child, are an alcoholic or drug addict, you beat your wife, you cheated on your husband, you get the idea.

That is the trap. When you reveal to a group something like that then it has a profound effect. You are far more likely to remain in case such information was made public. After this is done, the time taken up in activities within the sect really ramp up and it get's to the point where you feel that your life is taken over by activities within the Way.

It's toxic dangerous stuff and Scientology with it's bull**** auditing sessions using similar techniques of control. Approach with caution.

Its scary to actually think how scientology alienate families and basically brainwash these poor people who really r only looking for somewhere to belong. N as for the money they look for... I dunno how this Miscavige gets away with it

LongCatSilver · 16-10-2016 04:29PM

independent.ie/irish-news/mardi-gras-with-a-sinister-edge-as-scientologists-open-new-dublin-hq-35133781.html

"It was like a mini Mardi Gras with a sinister edge. A line of people waved Irish flags and sang as a small band played As The Saints Go Marching In. A cheer went up as party streamers ignited and the doors swung open to "the public" - which excluded any passers by or members of the press, who were strictly barred from entering (journalists are thought of as 'merchants of chaos' by the church).

This was in keeping with the atmosphere of secrecy that pervaded the event. None of the gathered Scientologists would speak on the record about their new venture, which was attended by some bigwigs from the international church.

Disappointingly, Scientology's best known adherents, Tom Cruise and John Travolta, were absent. Zabrina Collins, a prominent Irish Scientologist, and the daughter of wrongfully convicted Donegal publican, Frank Shortt, glowered at waiting press. Meanwhile, Pete Griffiths, a former church member against whom she took out an injunction, waited on the other side of the square. He later claimed that he had been followed and intimidated by members of the church.

In America, the church (which is not registered here as a charity) has public streets shut down for grand openings, but since that isn't possible in central Dublin, they relied on heavy-handed security - one Scientologist told me I would "get myself in serious trouble" for standing on Merrion Square. As the mob spilled out onto the street and gardai arrived on the scene, a third Scientologist had a taxi hold up traffic on the square itself, causing a long, if brief, tailback. (I was later told she was merely "inquiring about a fare")."

tipptom · 16-10-2016 04:44PM

tinkerbell2310 wrote: »

Its scary to actually think how scientology alienate families and basically brainwash these poor people who really r only looking for somewhere to belong. N as for the money they look for... I dunno how this Miscavige gets away with it

He was a sh*te comedian and I think he had family links to another sinister cult called Fianna Fail but fair play to him for reinventing himself from that and separating himself from such a sad early career double tragedy.

Now the head of one of the biggest cults in the world and has got real Hollywood stars for friends,long way from RTE!

MonkieSocks · 16-10-2016 04:55PM

LongCatSilver wrote: »

Grand opening at 4 Merrion Square at 12:00 this Saturday, October 15th: imgur.com/kXH1scT.jpg

tonyortega.org/2016/09/25/scientology-in-ireland-is-nearly-dead-heres-how-tom-cruise-and-the-gang-plan-to-bring-it-back/

dialogueireland.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/sw2.jpg

Brilliant News

It made me SOoooooo Happy I nearly jumped of my sofa

Guy:Incognito · 16-10-2016 05:00PM

corner of hells wrote: »

Will there be a monorail?
If there's no monorail , I'm not going.

They've missed the boat on that stuff. http://www.echo.ie/news/article/cable-car-from-hellfire-club-to-the-centre-of-tallaght-planned

storker · 16-10-2016 05:07PM

Excellent! That's handy to my work. I can drop in and get ripped off on the way home...

Outlaw Pete · 16-10-2016 05:12PM

Look, I wish the world was a different place. I'd like to go on vacation, and go and plomp, and play, and just do that. You know what I mean? I mean, that's what I want it to be, okay, there's times I'd like to do that but I can't, because I know. I know. So, you know what you know. I have to do something about it.

It's rough and tumble and it's wild and woolly and it's a blast, it's a blast! It really is fun because damn it there is nothing better than going out there and fighting the fight and suddenly you see things are better. I wanna know that I've done everything I could, everyday and I think about those people out there that are depending on us. I think about that and it does make me feel, man, we got more work, I need more help. Get those spectators either in the playing field or out of the arena. Really, that's how I feel about it.

I do what I can and I do it the way I do everything :pac: :pac:

There is nothing part of the way for me!! :pac: :pac: :pac:

Billy86 · 16-10-2016 05:35PM

Some very interesting, and very disturbing reading on growing up in Scientology here:
http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1274-5-ways-growing-up-inside-scientology-was-nightmare.html
http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1328-5-disturbing-things-i-learned-in-scientologys-space-navy.html

And then a slightly more lighthearted look at their war with the makers South Park here:
http://www.cracked.com/article_24112_5-crazy-but-real-plots-that-targeted-famous-celebrities.html

Dr Crayfish · 16-10-2016 06:40PM

Who cares? Let the fools part with their money. I remember being in Melbourne once and there were a load of young hipster types protesting a Scientology church, complete with the V for Vendetta masks etc. For some reason it's something of a Cause Celebré.
Go and protest outside a Mosque for their horrible treatment of women if you have any balls.

riclad · 16-10-2016 07:20PM

They get money from alot of rich people ,as a church they are tax free .its
a religion based on 50s scifi story s , so its very weird ,
But then americans will believe almost anything.
http://www.eonline.com/news/713638/leah-remini-vs-scientology-7-things-we-learned-from-her-troublemaker-book-press-tour

I think its weird that scientology is so concerned with recruiting hollywood celebritys into the church .LA is a strange city based on fame and hollywood ,
so its already detached from reality ,so mix in a religion with that and its even stranger.

gandalf · 16-10-2016 07:47PM

To be honest there is only one religion for me http://dudeism.com/

What is Dudeism?

While Dudeism in its official form has been organized as a religion only recently, it has existed down through the ages in one form or another. Probably the earliest form of Dudeism was the original form of Chinese Taoism, before it went all weird with magic tricks and body fluids. The originator of Taoism, Lao Tzu, basically said “smoke ’em if you got ’em” and “mellow out, man” although he said this in ancient Chinese so something may have been lost in the translation.

Down through the ages, this “rebel shrug” has fortified many successful creeds – Buddhism, Christianity, Sufism, John Lennonism and Fo’-Shizzle-my-Nizzlism. The idea is this: Life is short and complicated and nobody knows what to do about it. So don’t do anything about it. Just take it easy, man. Stop worrying so much whether you’ll make it into the finals. Kick back with some friends and some oat soda and whether you roll strikes or gutters, do your best to be true to yourself and others – that is to say, abide.

Incidentally, the term “dude” is commonly agreed to refer to both genders. Most linguists contend that “Dudette” is not in keeping with the parlance of our times.

Church of Scientology opening on Merrion Square

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