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2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

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  • #3842
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    Christy42 wrote: »

    Given his campaign requires an unprecedented comeback to give him the presidency I don't think riding high in the polls is the term I would use.

    He wrote the "Art of the Comeback" tbf


  • #3843
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    oik wrote: »
    He wrote the "Art of the Comeback" tbf

    Correction: he paid Kate Bohner to write it, and then put his name on it as well.


  • #3844
    B0jangles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    oik wrote: »
    Play the ball not the man.

    I have said nothing about you personally, I have commented on your posts, I assume you must have intended this.response for someone else.


  • #3845
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    oik wrote: »
    No you haven't you're insinuating there's some similarity between 16 year olds and 25 year olds.

    16 year olds can't drive and 25 year olds can have mortgages, so tell me, what is your point?

    You're the one who's evading by not actually making a clear argument so you never have to defend it.

    Ironic - you're mocking similarities and then go on to insinuate what? That because 16yr olds can't have Mortgages it's not OK for a real estate mogul to lust after them?


  • #3846
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    Overheal wrote: »
    Ironic - you're mocking similarities and then go on to insinuate what? That because 16yr olds can't have Mortgages it's not OK for a real estate mogul to lust after them?

    What was your original point? That after a certain age it's not okay to date 25 year olds?

    I suspect you know your argument is bunk, which is why you're shy about expressing it explicitly.


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  • #3847
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    oik wrote: »
    What was your original point? That after a certain age it's not okay to date 25 year olds?

    I suspect you know your argument is bunk, which is why you're shy about expressing it explicitly.

    I originally asked what year the interview was. I was even nice and didn't ask for a source. In this thread you will recall I've been very forthcoming when being asked to provide links/sources. Instead you threw a bit of a huff and said "does it matter?"

    So let's rewind a bit. You said 'etc etc he wouldn't date anyone under 25 on the Howard Stern show'. Source?


  • #3848
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    Overheal wrote: »
    I originally asked what year the interview was. I was even nice and didn't ask for a source. In this thread you will recall I've been very forthcoming when being asked to provide links/sources. Instead you threw a bit of a huff and said "does it matter?"

    So let's rewind a bit. You said 'etc etc he wouldn't date anyone under 25 on the Howard Stern show'. Source?

    You implied it was about age rather than the veracity of the quote.

    No I don't have a source because he appeared on Howard Stern loads of times.


    So it's not an issue of age then?

    If not then why bring up 16 year olds?


  • #3849
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    oik wrote: »
    Are we going to ignore the fact he told Howard Stern he only goes for over 25's?

    Source?
    No I don't have a source because he appeared on Howard Stern loads of times.
    No source, indefensible point.

    So I was correct when I said, "I'm satisfied that you can't defend your previous point."

    I'm happy considering this tangent resolved.


  • #3850
    johnnyskeleton
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,568 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Mod note:

    Oik, final warning about attacking posters not the post.

    Overheal, please use the report post function.

    Everyone else, there are about 3 or 4 posters trying to have a debate and Id like to thank them for trying to keep the thread on point. But there is also a group of people who only want to bicker with each other. The latter is not what this forum is for. Any more nonsense and its ban territory. None of the other threads are giving us this much grief, and mods are volunteers. So play nice or dont play at all.


  • #3851
    frostyjacks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    Christy42 wrote: »
    As a heterosexual male I have never been attracted to a 10 year. Nor looked at a 10 year old and thought I would like them in a few years.

    Given his campaign requires an unprecedented comeback to give him the presidency I don't think riding high in the polls is the term I would use.

    Nor have I, nor has Trump. He was simply stating that he will be a dating a 20 year old woman at a certain point in the future. For some people to twist that into something it's clearly not says a lot more about his detractors than it does about Trump.

    Trump is an alpha-male. A strong, heterosexual white man. It's no surprise that the liberal/feminist mob, backed by the mass media and Hollywood have took turns to fire shots at him. Yet still he stands. He will come through this grotesque mudslinging from the Clinton camp stronger than ever.


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  • #3852
    Peist2007
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Peist2007


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Just 25 more days

    Just 25 more days

    And then you get to reply for eternity to understandable queries as to why you willingly cheerleaded for the instigator of World War 3. Enjoy the time left.


  • #3853
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    Trump is an alpha-male. A strong, heterosexual white man. It's no surprise that the liberal/feminist mob, backed by the mass media and Hollywood have took turns to fire shots at him. Yet still he stands. He will come through this grotesque mudslinging from the Clinton camp stronger than ever.

    I doubt stronger than ever. he will keep the #NeverHer votes no matter what. Unsurprisingly the Daily Show showed up at a rally to find Trump supporters, most of whom are in this thing till the end - there is nothing he could say or do to lose the die-hard vote. Shoot someone on 5th Avenue, nothing. Marry a Muslim woman maybe? Pray at a Mosque?

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/so-what-if-he-wants-to-grab-pussy-the-daily-show-talks-to-trump-supporters/


  • #3854
    alastair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,311 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    Trump is an alpha-male. A strong, heterosexual white man. It's no surprise that the liberal/feminist mob, backed by the mass media and Hollywood have took turns to fire shots at him. Yet still he stands. He will come through this grotesque mudslinging from the Clinton camp stronger than ever.

    Oh dear. He's just ensured that his tacky properties been further ascribed with the 'lots of hot air, but no substance' brand values. On top of which he's confirming his 'loser' status, once again, with this failed venture. Not so much an alpha male white man as an unconvincing Oompa Loompa, put down by a dislikable older lady.


  • #3855
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Peist2007 wrote: »
    And then you get to reply for eternity to understandable queries as to why you willingly cheerleaded for the instigator of World War 3. Enjoy the time left.

    What's funny about that is you won't find many Hillary cheerleaders on the thread; its boiled down to Trump being completely unfit to run the country.

    And no, bookmark this post: Hillary Clinton will not start WW3.


  • #3856
    alastair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,311 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Peist2007 wrote: »
    And then you get to reply for eternity to understandable queries as to why you willingly cheerleaded for the instigator of World War 3. Enjoy the time left.

    I've read this pamphlet. I'm not going to subscribe.

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  • #3857
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,277 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Some good reading in the New Yorker today on how Trump has slipped back to his core vote over the past week, concluding that even he now thinks the election is lost and the priority is finding someone to blame:
    This is reality. You know it, they know it, and pretty much the whole world knows it. The establishment and their media neighbors wield control over this nation through means that are very well known. Anyone who challenges their control is deemed a sexist, rapist, xenophobe, and morally deformed. They will attack you. They will slander you. They will seek to destroy your career and your family. They will seek to destroy everything about you, including your reputation. They will lie, lie, lie, and then again they will do worse than that.


  • #3858
    Peist2007
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Peist2007


    Overheal wrote: »
    What's funny about that is you won't find many Hillary cheerleaders on the thread; its boiled down to Trump being completely unfit to run the country.

    And no, bookmark this post: Hillary Clinton will not start WW3.

    You are one of the biggest on this thread. The media will tell you who starts WW3 and that will be good enough for you.


  • #3859
    Peist2007
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Peist2007


    alastair wrote: »
    I've read this pamphlet. I'm not going to subscribe.

    m2SVPjiAok74ZvxzBve3V5A.jpg

    Looks about your level alright.


  • #3860
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    On a change of subject, who is this McMullin and why is he polling 20% in Utah?


  • #3861
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,277 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    On a change of subject, who is this McMullin and why is he polling 20% in Utah?

    Anti-Trump Republican. Backed by this crowd.


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  • #3862
    Calina
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    Nor have I, nor has Trump. He was simply stating that he will be a dating a 20 year old woman at a certain point in the future. For some people to twist that into something it's clearly not says a lot more about his detractors than it does about Trump.

    Based on what that 20 year old was like at the age of 10.

    I really don't know about you but a man who looks at a 10 year old with a view to what it might be like to date her when she's 20 is a bit disgusting and not really alpha at all.
    frostyjacks wrote: »
    Trump is an alpha-male. A strong, heterosexual white man. It's no surprise that the liberal/feminist mob, backed by the mass media and Hollywood have took turns to fire shots at him. Yet still he stands. He will come through this grotesque mudslinging from the Clinton camp stronger than ever.

    IMO Trump is not an alpha male. He's a privileged man who got 14 million dollars to play from his dad. He would be nowhere without the family background. He got himself out of the draft and he dares to criticise people who have served for their country and paid hefty prices for that service, cf John McCain.


  • #3863
    Calina
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    On a change of subject, who is this McMullin and why is he polling 20% in Utah?

    The senior Repubs in Utah disavowed Trump before most of the others. They really don't like him there.


  • #3864
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    On a change of subject, who is this McMullin and why is he polling 20% in Utah?

    Seems to be an independent, Utah native candidate who is statistically tied with Clinton and Trump.

    I love this. Unfortunately Utah is winner take all - all the electoral votes will go to the winner. He COULD surge in Utah and take the 6 electoral votes though, and that would be a significant win of protest against the 2 party system. I welcome it.


  • #3865
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    McMullin for Utah!


  • #3866
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    McMullin for Utah!

    "You're name is McMullin? NICE!"

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  • #3867
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,176 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    Nor have I, nor has Trump. He was simply stating that he will be a dating a 20 year old woman at a certain point in the future. For some people to twist that into something it's clearly not says a lot more about his detractors than it does about Trump.

    Trump is an alpha-male. A strong, heterosexual white man. It's no surprise that the liberal/feminist mob, backed by the mass media and Hollywood have took turns to fire shots at him. Yet still he stands. He will come through this grotesque mudslinging from the Clinton camp stronger than ever.

    Nothing says "alpha male" more than permanent Dorito-coloured fake tan, a combover and obesity. All he needs now is a trilby and a scraggly beard.


  • #3868
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,110 ✭✭✭Christy42


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    Nor have I, nor has Trump. He was simply stating that he will be a dating a 20 year old woman at a certain point in the future. For some people to twist that into something it's clearly not says a lot more about his detractors than it does about Trump.

    Trump is an alpha-male. A strong, heterosexual white man. It's no surprise that the liberal/feminist mob, backed by the mass media and Hollywood have took turns to fire shots at him. Yet still he stands. He will come through this grotesque mudslinging from the Clinton camp stronger than ever.

    No he was stating he would dating a specific woman based on how she looks as a 10 year old.

    Pretty sure an alpha male shouldn't go into full meltdown over someone sagging his hand size, or losing, or someone mentioning his bank balance.

    Dude is not still standing. The competition is dead. Clinton's first presidential speech was part of the first debate when she assured the world the US would stick by its international obligations. She was winning before that point but that debate was when she and most people figured Trump had nothing to him and the election was won.

    A year ago his name meant success. Now it means a joke.


  • #3869
    130Kph
    Closed Accounts Posts: 625 ✭✭✭130Kph


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    On a change of subject, who is this McMullin and why is he polling 20% in Utah?

    It’s interesting to note that the last 3rd party candidate to get any significant electoral college votes was George Wallace in 1968 with 46 e.c. votes.

    It’s grim to see he was a notorious segregationist though.


  • #3870
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,859 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    oik wrote: »
    He said 25 not 16, so what's your point?

    Trump on Howard Stern in 1999:
    “I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great — Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her. So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.”

    “The nerve of her. Now you can’t go out with 16-year-olds,” replied Stern...

    There's a certain amount of mask-slipping going on with all this talk of alpha males. Which is all the more amusing, considering the man who coined the term (in the context of wolf packs) has utterly repudiated it.


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  • #3871
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,081 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Jep Gambardella wrote: »
    Some good reading in the New Yorker today on how Trump has slipped back to his core vote over the past week, concluding that even he now thinks the election is lost and the priority is finding someone to blame:

    Agreed - I think at this point he is whipping up his core voters with a view to his post-election business plans..

    The Election is lost , he knows it - All his efforts now are focused not on trying to win , but on trying to ensure that he personally can consider himself blameless and remain a "winner" in his eyes..

    He won't have lost - It will have been "Stolen from him" "Rigged by the Liberal elite" etc. etc. etc.

    Absolutely guarantee that Trump will launch a media empirel (Breitbart TV ??) after the election that will just be a home for full on Right-wing stuff..


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