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2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,311 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Maybe you laugh more than once while discussing a case about the rape of a 12 year old child, like Hillary does, I seriously doubt you would be looking for humour in such a discussion, so I don't know why you would want to defend her.

    So, that would be a "no" then?
    Why the pretence she was laughing at 'getting a rapist off' then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    Someone just got lifted by the cops at the Clinton rally in Detroit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    Overheal wrote: »
    Imagine if he wins this in November somehow, he'll be on trial for raping a child in December.

    That will never go to court.

    The story has been rubbished from top to bottom. Those pushing it are NeverTrumpers who are either taking advantage of some woman or else the woman doesn't even exist.

    I encourage you to read some of the analysis of it, I'm confident you will reach the same conclusion as I have.

    http://jezebel.com/heres-how-that-wild-lawsuit-accusing-trump-of-raping-a-1782447083
    http://jezebel.com/the-source-pushing-the-trump-rape-lawsuits-may-not-be-w-1783270283
    http://jezebel.com/woman-who-says-trump-raped-her-files-to-dismiss-lawsuit-1786717971


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,176 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    There are vast amount of simple folk who live in middle of know where in every state. These people are not showing up in current polls, but when it comes to voting they will be out in their thousands, this will tip a lot of states in Trumps favour .

    If there was such a vast amount of people in the middle of nowhere which was enough to tip so many states in Trump's favour, they wouldn't be in the middle of nowhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    oik wrote: »
    That will never go to court.
    The hearing is December 16th.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-accused-underage-rape-lawsuit-a7352976.html

    You should look at newer articles before jumping to conclusions.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    Overheal wrote: »
    The hearing is December 16th.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-accused-underage-rape-lawsuit-a7352976.html

    You should look at newer articles before jumping to conclusions.

    I meant trial

    But you clearly didn't read any of the articles given the speed of your response.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,283 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,283 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    If there was such a vast amount of people in the middle of nowhere which was enough to tip so many states in Trump's favour, they wouldn't be in the middle of nowhere.

    That's not necessarily true.

    46 million people live in rural areas. This is a demographic Romney won with about 52% (from memory) in swing states.

    Trump is holding rallies in small rural towns and rural voters have probably picked up on that. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-skips-swing-state-cities-opts-for-rural-town-instead/2016/09/20/0a4ec84c-7f08-11e6-ad0e-ab0d12c779b1_story.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,176 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    So Romney won 52% of rural voters in swing states. Remind me, which swing states did he actually win?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    Overheal wrote: »
    Definitely a possibility.

    Now that I've said "court" instead of "trial" it's basically a certainty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    So Romney won 52% of rural voters in swing states. Remind me, which swing states did he actually win?

    What are you getting at?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    And now it seems this little cock-up is going to keep the old rapist allegations from doing a lot of collateral damage to the HRC campaign

    http://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/trump-ally-roger-stone-gave-hillary-clinton-sexual-assault-critic-2500/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    oik wrote: »
    Now that I've said "court" instead of "trial" it's basically a certainty.

    Good to see you have a firm grasp of that the subject was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    Exit polls put Romney at +20 with rural swing state voters overperforming polls that had him at +14

    Trump is already beating Romney with 24+ in that category.

    I'm not going to support the previous poster's claim that the rural vote is going to win the election for Trump, I think Trump has an opportunity to turn things around the next month, but he is capturing demographics that haven't voted in a long time just like Obama did.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    Overheal wrote: »
    And now it seems this little cock-up is going to keep the old rapist allegations from doing a lot of collateral damage to the HRC campaign

    http://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/trump-ally-roger-stone-gave-hillary-clinton-sexual-assault-critic-2500/

    Hardly.

    Good luck getting the American people on board with attacking a woman who was made infertile due to rape when she was 12.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    oik wrote: »
    Hardly.

    Good luck getting the American people on board with attacking a woman who was made infertile due to rape when she was 12.

    God is there no depths some of ye won't go to. Where is the attack on the victim. There is a report that a PAC supporting Trump has paid her $2,500.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,176 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    oik wrote: »
    What are you getting at?

    What I'm getting at is that despite his lead among rural voters in swing states, Romney only won a single swing state in 2012, North Carolina.
    380px-Swing_states_2012.svg.png
    Pink states are states which Obama won by <4%, purple means Obama won by 4-8%, and that single red state was a Romney win.

    Guess how North Carolina is leaning right now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭Amerika


    Overheal wrote: »
    And now it seems this little cock-up is going to keep the old rapist allegations from doing a lot of collateral damage to the HRC campaign

    http://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/trump-ally-roger-stone-gave-hillary-clinton-sexual-assault-critic-2500/

    I dunno. Off hand this seems to be little more than another desperate attempt to bring down Trump. This time by a federal judge appointed by President Barack Obama. The rape case has been filed twice before, with the most recent case in California dismissed in May 2016. Is there any question that similar stories will come out against Bill Clinton who took at least 26 trips on Epstein’s infamous private sex plane? You know there is a reason Hillary hasn't touched this thing with a 10-foot pole.

    Edit:
    A quick search and.... wham! Apparently from the article Bill Clinton us just as guilty (or innocent).

    Now I guess all we need to do is find a sleezy lawyer and a judge with an ax to grind against Bill Clinton, and we can have dueling child sex court hearings. Is Prince Andrew next?

    http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/breaking-sex-slave-makes-disturbing-accusations-bill-clinton/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    So watched the end of last night there.

    Clear clear winner after seeing it all.

    Ken Bone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Wikileaks have released more Podesta emails.

    Bill Clinton's behaviour towards a female member of the Clinton foundation led her (the COO) to trying to commit suicide by driving her car into the ocean.

    One of the Clinton advisors said Chelsea Clinton is a spoiled brat and has a lack of focus in life.

    Hillary blames the Russians for the opposition to fracking.

    An email shows Hillary was told she should stop telling lies about Bernie, as she does it often, because Bernie they believed would support her and her attacks on him are not going to give any gain.
    The email said that Hillary is totally dependent on the Republicans choosing Trump. That Hillary has huge endemic political weaknesses, and that Ted Cruz would likely beat Hillary.

    People close to the Clintons pushing for 'the less Bill the better' due to his 'sex life'.

    John Podesta who runs the Clinton campaign was in contact with Blink 182 in relation to UFOs.
    Claims of sensitive material about UFOs and Podesta said his biggest failure before he left the Obama administration is 'not securing the disclosure of the UFO files'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36 Feline Grabber


    So Romney won 52% of rural voters in swing states. Remind me, which swing states did he actually win?

    Remember president Romney? So much for the rural voters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭bajer101




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    God is there no depths some of ye won't go to. Where is the attack on the victim. There is a report that a PAC supporting Trump has paid her $2,500.

    I say there won't be an attack.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    What I'm getting at is that despite his lead among rural voters in swing states, Romney only won a single swing state in 2012, North Carolina.
    380px-Swing_states_2012.svg.png
    Pink states are states which Obama won by <4%, purple means Obama won by 4-8%, and that single red state was a Romney win.

    Guess how North Carolina is leaning right now?

    So?

    Trump is beating Romney with rural voters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Hillary blames the Russians for the opposition to fracking.


    John Podesta who runs the Clinton campaign was in contact with Blink 182 in relation to UFOs.
    Claims of sensitive material about UFOs and Podesta said his biggest failure before he left the Obama administration is 'not securing the disclosure of the UFO files'.

    UFOs and blaming Russia for everything.

    Baby boomers really are the worst.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭captbarnacles


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Wikileaks have released more Podesta emails.

    Bill Clinton's behaviour towards a female member of the Clinton foundation led her (the COO) to trying to commit suicide by driving her car into the ocean.

    One of the Clinton advisors said Chelsea Clinton is a spoiled brat and has a lack of focus in life.

    Hillary blames the Russians for the opposition to fracking.

    An email shows Hillary was told she should stop telling lies about Bernie, as she does it often, because Bernie they believed would support her and her attacks on him are not going to give any gain.
    The email said that Hillary is totally dependent on the Republicans choosing Trump. That Hillary has huge endemic political weaknesses, and that Ted Cruz would likely beat Hillary.

    People close to the Clintons pushing for 'the less Bill the better' due to his 'sex life'.

    John Podesta who runs the Clinton campaign was in contact with Blink 182 in relation to UFOs.
    Claims of sensitive material about UFOs and Podesta said his biggest failure before he left the Obama administration is 'not securing the disclosure of the UFO files'.

    *faints*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Wikileaks have released more Podesta emails.

    Bill Clinton's behaviour towards a female member of the Clinton foundation led her (the COO) to trying to commit suicide by driving her car into the ocean.

    Not just Bill but Chelsea too.

    WJC stands for William Jefferson Clinton. CVC stands for Chelsea Victoria Clinton.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    *faints*
    You can taste the desperation at this point. Assange has done some incredible damage to his reputation in the last 12 months or so, also. It is interesting how caught in up Bill Clinton some guys wanted for rape seem to be, though.


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