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3 lowlifes get life for bashing a man to death.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    I know one of them, had a quick look on Facebook to see if it was the same guy. The sh1t some people go on with. "Happy birthday pal, sometimes it's better in jail. We'll celebrate in style when you win the war" wtf? The poor old man. What an awful way to die, battered to death by 3 little junkies off their heads on God knows what? Hopefully like you said life is life, and they're not out in their 30s, with other scumbags sympathising with the injustice of them having the best years of their lives taken from them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,399 ✭✭✭eeguy


    69 convictions,
    7 convictions,
    21 convictions.

    Scum like that should have been jailed for life long ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    Heard on the news that they had a ton of priors between them, some for violent crimes.

    Once again we are shown that rehabilitation is a myth.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,311 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Poor man.


    Does life here mean, 10-15 years and then a chance of getting out on good behaviour?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭TeaBagMania


    Perfect example of why capital punishment should be reinstated
    Tax payers should not have to house, feed, and support these scum bags for the rest of their life :angry:


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  • Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Perfect example of why capital punishment should be reinstated
    Tax payers should not have to house, feed, and support these scum bags for the rest of their life :angry:

    Agreed. Rope and Construction of gallows should be the taxpayers expense at this stage. These people showed no remorse. They need to be put down. Wouldnt eliminate murders but would prevent a hell of alot id imagine


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    Absolute scangers. And apologies to any scangers who are offended by the comparison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I think a confined to a wheelchair level beating with his own baseball bat would be more fitting and cheaper


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    I think a confined to a wheelchair level beating with his own baseball bat would be more fitting and cheaper

    That would probably just get them out earlier and then the state has to care for their every need as regards their disability.

    Killing them would just be easier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,902 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    I think a confined to a wheelchair level beating with his own baseball bat would be more fitting and cheaper

    Well. he'd most likely qualify for Disability Allowance then:mad:. Another expense on the taxpayer:mad:.

    On the other hand, if he still had to go to jail, he'd get sfa.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭cometogether


    Seems like the boys are fond of their drugs, would there be any major objections to giving them enough of them in prison to overdose and end their miserable lives?


  • Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    lawlolawl wrote: »
    That would probably just get them out earlier and then the state has to care for their every need as regards their disability.

    Killing them would just be easier.

    Death by anti aircraft gun Kim Jong style? I think its warranted for these fúckers if not a bit too quick. Maybe a slow torturous bludgeoning with their own baseball bats


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Fleawuss


    Another innocent life cruelly and viciously taken; the state is negligent IMHO for not putting these people away for life years ago. And to say the unsayable, one look at their pictures on the news and you knew what you were dealing with. No TD should have respite this week from this case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    That's absolutely disgusting. The man must have been terrified. Low life scumbags.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    I don't understand how these animals are allowed to be free.
    I don't mean now. In general, if he has violent convictions going back to 2008, when he was 14, surely, after say... two convictions, it might be time to understand that we can't realize him back into society until he's able to act like a person.

    I read the article.
    I understand arson and baseball bats are things they like.
    Public execution by beating them half to death then setting the scum on fire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭Carlos Orange


    mzungu wrote: »
    Poor man.


    Does life here mean, 10-15 years and then a chance of getting out on good behaviour?

    Based on this story I saw on the right hand side of the Independent it can mean 7 years in jail.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/i-need-to-make-sure-he-serves-every-second-possible-killer-of-mother-and-two-daughters-applies-for-parole-after-just-eight-years-35117989.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,002 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    3 lowlife scumbags have got life in jail for bashing a 64-year-old man to death in Co Offaly after a drink & drug-fuelled evening/night of debauchery.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/we-never-got-to-say-goodbye-family-of-elderly-man-beaten-to-death-with-baseball-bat-after-night-of-carnage-35118028.html.

    On reading stories like the above,I really hope that life means life in such cases:mad:

    Sadly,but inevitably,in this State,a Life sentence,even for the most savage of murders means othing of the sort.

    Just read through this account of what constitutes "Justice" in Irish terms...

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/i-need-to-make-sure-he-serves-every-second-possible-killer-of-mother-and-two-daughters-applies-for-parole-after-just-eight-years-35117989.html
    Hennessy (The Murderer) had previously been handed three life sentences, to be served one after the other, for the Christmas morning murders.

    In November 2010 (2 Years after the murders) the killer succeeded in his uncontested application to the Court of Criminal Appeal to have all three life sentences run concurrently.

    UNCONTESTED !..WTF ?

    For sure,to have a Consecutive sentence imposed by a Trial Judge in an Irish Court is indeed a rare occurrence,so when such event does occur,it is to reflect the severity of the Crime (which in this case it most certainly did)

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/postman-gets-three-life-terms-for-murder-of-family-26583194.html

    Then,barely a year after the thoroughly appropriate sentence,this individual brings an appeal which The State,not alone fails to contest,but also fails to advise the victim's family of it's abandonment of them.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/family-cant-believe-killer-could-serve-just-12-years-26696281.html
    John Whelan said his family had been "badly let down by the State". "We had no contact from the DPP -- there was nobody in touch with me. We were told by the guards that this appeal was just a formality, just a routine and that nothing would change."

    The relationship between State and Citizen in modern Ireland has been fraught for quite some time,but this case really does underline the level of contempt,in which ordinary law abiding people are held by sections of both our Administration AND it's Judiciary.

    Are we being asked to accept that a Court of Criminal Appeal is comprised of Justices so thoroughly devoid of reason,commonsense and simple decency,that it can cast aside the murders of two small children as if they counted for naught ?

    What a disgrace this decision was.

    A disgrace which now appears set to be compounded by even more recent events to see the Murderer released even sooner.

    I,for one,sincerely hope that the Whelan Family succeed in shaming some of the Political and Judical leadership of this State into addressing this shameful carry-on.

    The Trial judge handed down an appropriate (for once) sentence,which at the very least,should have been robustly endorsed and defended by the State...Why was it not so defended ?


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    They will likely be out in 4-6 considering time on remand ,
    But as we all well know there is no justice in this country only excuses for the perpetrators and little consideration for the victims and their families .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭zSparc


    A single bullet in the neck, cremate the bodies and dispose the ashes.
    It's so very simple, but who would be feeding fat lawyers then...?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    Tombi! wrote: »
    I don't understand how these animals are allowed to be free.
    I don't mean now. In general, if he has violent convictions going back to 2008, when he was 14, surely, after say... two convictions, it might be time to understand that we can't realize him back into society until he's able to act like a person.

    I read the article.
    I understand arson and baseball bats are things they like.
    Public execution by beating them half to death then setting the scum on fire.

    The justice system in this country has been neutered by decades of left leaning "intellectuals" running it and slowly chipping away at any chance it has of being a deterrent.

    The perpetrators are seen as the real victims now and are to be handled with kid gloves lest we violate their precious human rights which they themselves clearly highly value when they are caving in a pensioners head with a baseball bat.

    I would genuinely support a reintroduction of the death penalty. I'd vote for any political party who was in favor of it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    zSparc wrote: »
    A single bullet in the neck, cremate the bodies and dispose the ashes.
    It's so very simple, but who would be feeding fat lawyers then...?

    Yeah, if you are found 100% guilty of murder then you get a week after sentencing to say your goodbyes/get your affairs in order and then it's execution time and your body is incinerated afterwards.

    If you think that is unreasonable then don't murder someone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    Drown the ****ers....


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,907 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    3 violent crimes, and you go away for 20 years. Tough ****...you had 3 chances and you blew it.

    Absolute scum like these three would have been put away a long time ago, and the country would have been better for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    That was a rough read.
    Horrible thing they did to that man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Wow, it's a bit right wing in here! You'd soon be complaining if this was about Irish in England and message boards saying kill 'em.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Kiith wrote: »
    3 violent crimes, and you go away for 20 years. Tough ****...you had 3 chances and you blew it.

    A certain politician suggested such in the run up to the election ,
    People rubbished the idea as* being *too American


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    being too....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    being too....

    Fixed

    Heil


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Gatling wrote: »
    They will likely be out in 4-6 considering time on remand ,
    But as we all well know there is no justice in this country only excuses for the perpetrators and little consideration for the victims and their families .

    Bullsh*t. If they got a life sentence then they won't be out in 4-6 years. You have to serve 7 before you're eligible to be in front of the parole board. Nobody gets out after 7. 15 or 16 is probably the earliest they'd walk. Remand has nothing to do with a life sentence either btw.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,002 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Bullsh*t. If they got a life sentence then they won't be out in 4-6 years. You have to serve 7 before you're eligible to be in front of the parole board. Nobody gets out after 7. 15 or 16 is probably the earliest they'd walk. Remand has nothing to do with a life sentence either btw.

    You may well consider it Bulshytt,but that is'nt preventing members of the Legal Proffession from making strenuous attempts to stick to your timetable....to the minute,it seems :o

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/i-need-to-make-sure-he-serves-every-second-possible-killer-of-mother-and-two-daughters-applies-for-parole-after-just-eight-years-35117989.html
    The brother of Sharon Whelan, who was murdered on Christmas Day in 2008, is fighting to keep killer Brian Hennessy in jail as he applies for parole.

    Sharon Whelan was raped and strangled to death before her two daughters, Zsara (seven) and Nadia (two) died from smoke inhalation when Hennessy set fire to the house.

    Sharon’s brother John spoke on The Anton Savage Show on TodayFM following the news that Hennessy is applying for parole.

    I'm hopeful that these Legal Proffessionals are WRONG and that you are Correct about the 15 years,but I'm not holding my breath either....:(


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



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