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Incident on New Street?

  • 08-10-2016 7:23am
    #1
    JohnC.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭


    Just passed the bottom of New Street. Garda tape closing it off and one of those tents they use to cover a scene a bit up the street.


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  • #2
    marlin vs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭marlin vs


    A 28 year old supposedly stabbed to death last night.


  • #3
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,203 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    28 year old fatally stabbed, 35 year old male in the Garda Station.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #4
    JMT2016
    Closed Accounts Posts: 215 ✭✭JMT2016


    It's on RTE

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/1008/822440-waterford-fatal-stabbing/

    A 28-year-old man has died after he was stabbed in the early hours of this morning in Waterford city.

    At around 3.20am gardaí were alerted by a member of the public to a man having been seriously injured on New Street in the city following an altercation with another man.

    The victim was taken to University Hospital Waterford where he was pronounced dead.

    A 35-year-old male was arrested nearby and is being held at Waterford Garda Station.

    The scene is currently preserved for a technical examination and the offices of the State Pathologist have been notified. The Garda Technical Bureau is scheduled to attend the scene this morning.

    Gardaí are appealing to witnesses who may have been in the New Street/John Street area between 3am and 4am today to contact them at the incident room in Waterford Garda Station on 051- 305300, the Garda Confidential Telephone Line 1800 666 111 or any garda station.


  • #5
    Wanderer2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,742 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    Absolutely shocking news. RIP to the victim and my thoughts go out to his family and friends.

    Waterford is getting more and more dangerous, you cant even go out and enjoy yourself anymore. Deadly city. :(


  • #6
    MRnotlob606
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    This comes after a heroin drug-den was found in the Viking Triangle, and after a student was stabbed about 4 weeks ago outside the foundry. Not trying to sound sensationalist, but this city seems to be getting worse with crime. Honestly this is embarrassing as we were just awarded the purple flag...


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  • #7
    JMT2016
    Closed Accounts Posts: 215 ✭✭JMT2016


    MRnotlob606 wrote: »
    This comes after a heroin drug-den was found in the Viking Triangle, and after a student was stabbed about 4 weeks ago outside the foundry. Not trying to sound sensationalist, but this city seems to be getting worse with crime. Honestly this is embarrassing as we were just awarded the purple flag...

    And this is purple flag weekend :(

    https://www.facebook.com/purpleflagwaterford/

    RIP. So sad for all his family and friends and for everyone here.


  • #8
    Azatadine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,272 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    Isn't there some reports of drug dealing going on on the new Greenway too?


  • #9
    thomasm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭thomasm


    Related to a feud between two non national groupings I understand


  • #10
    The Bowling Alley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭The Bowling Alley


    Considering that one of the victims is from Wexford I'd highly doubt it


  • #11
    deisemum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,608 ✭✭✭deisemum


    There was a man in his 40's stabbed on O'Connell Street on Thursday evening too. A section of the road was cordoned off.


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  • #12
    thomasm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭thomasm


    The Bowling Alley wrote: »
    Considering that one of the victims is from Wexford I'd highly doubt it

    My mistake then, heard it from a reliable source but open to correction


  • #13
    Sully
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    And I believe that there was a sexual assault somewhere in Waterford too, recently?

    Rotten few weeks for the city. That's three stabbings causing one death, possible sexual assault and a fatal car accident in Tramore.


  • #14
    deisemum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,608 ✭✭✭deisemum


    There was a sexual assault in John's Park, think it was this week.


  • #15
    O Riain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭O Riain


    thomasm wrote: »
    The Bowling Alley wrote: »
    Considering that one of the victims is from Wexford I'd highly doubt it

    My mistake then, heard it from a reliable source but open to correction

    Ah the typically reliable yet inherently racist Irish source, can't beat them.


  • #16
    mooseknunkle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭mooseknunkle


    O Riain wrote: »
    Ah the typically reliable yet inherently racist Irish source, can't beat them.

    A foreign national arrested over it according to WLR.


  • #17
    MRnotlob606
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    O Riain wrote: »
    Ah the typically reliable yet inherently racist Irish source, can't beat them.

    I'm having some trouble finding any utterance of racist remark here. Can you back me up or are you going to pull a few straw men?


  • #18
    O Riain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭O Riain


    MRnotlob606 wrote: »
    O Riain wrote: »
    Ah the typically reliable yet inherently racist Irish source, can't beat them.

    I'm having some trouble finding any utterance of racist remark here. Can you back me up or are you going to pull a few straw men?

    Maybe racist is the wrong term and xenophobic is more correct. But i swear to god we blame all our troubles on non-irish when it's very clear that 99.9% of our troubles are caused by Irish people.

    If a non national has been arrested (and is the guilty party) then I guess for once the rumours lucked out.


  • #19
    thomasm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭thomasm


    O Riain wrote: »
    Ah the typically reliable yet inherently racist Irish source, can't beat them.

    Very easy to get accused of racism these days.


  • #20
    gobo99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭gobo99


    O Riain wrote: »
    But i swear to god we blame all our troubles on non-irish.

    That's not true. Only half is blamed on foreigners. The other half is blamed on "them feckin students Billy...."


  • #21
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,203 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Still conducting a search this morning. Tech Bureau say they have "a good few hours" left of searching to get through.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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  • #22
    O Riain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭O Riain


    thomasm wrote: »
    O Riain wrote: »
    Ah the typically reliable yet inherently racist Irish source, can't beat them.

    Very easy to get accused of racism these days.

    Never accused YOU of racism but I hear stories from these sources all the time such as "this black refugee family is getting x, y and z from the government".

    Your source said that it involved a feud between two non national gangs yet it appears to be a random/spontaneous attack with one of the parties from Wexford. Now, unless people from Wexford are considered to be non national then your story is clearly coming from somebody who just decided it was foreigners who did it and that's it.


  • #23
    MentalMario
    Registered Users Posts: 529 ✭✭✭MentalMario


    O Riain wrote: »
    Never accused YOU of racism but I hear stories from these sources all the time such as "this black refugee family is getting x, y and z from the government".

    Your source said that it involved a feud between two non national gangs yet it appears to be a random/spontaneous attack with one of the parties from Wexford. Now, unless people from Wexford are considered to be non national then your story is clearly coming from somebody who just decided it was foreigners who did it and that's it.

    From what I heard, I don't think it was spontaneous.


  • #24
    mooseknunkle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭mooseknunkle


    O Riain wrote: »
    Never accused YOU of racism but I hear stories from these sources all the time such as "this black refugee family is getting x, y and z from the government".

    Your source said that it involved a feud between two non national gangs yet it appears to be a random/spontaneous attack with one of the parties from Wexford. Now, unless people from Wexford are considered to be non national then your story is clearly coming from somebody who just decided it was foreigners who did it and that's it.

    What are you on about??,you do know a foreign national could be from anywhere you're the only one who brought race into it.

    A 28 year old father of 3 was killed and this is all you can bitch about :rolleyes:


  • #25
    O Riain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭O Riain


    mooseknunkle wrote: »
    O Riain wrote: »
    Never accused YOU of racism but I hear stories from these sources all the time such as "this black refugee family is getting x, y and z from the government".

    Your source said that it involved a feud between two non national gangs yet it appears to be a random/spontaneous attack with one of the parties from Wexford. Now, unless people from Wexford are considered to be non national then your story is clearly coming from somebody who just decided it was foreigners who did it and that's it.

    What are you on about??,you do know a foreign national could be from anywhere you're the only one who brought race into it.

    A 28 year old father of 3 was killed and this is all you can bitch about :rolleyes:

    Of course I know that a foreign national could be from anywhere. My point is a finger was pointed straight away at a foreigner when we should be looking at our own home grown scum for this sort of heinous act.


  • #26
    mooseknunkle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭mooseknunkle


    O Riain wrote: »
    Of course I know that a foreign national could be from anywhere. My point is a finger was pointed straight away at a foreigner when we should be looking at our own home grown scum for this sort of heinous act.

    Who's finger pointing a foreign national was arrested near the scene just after it happened,what dont you get?


  • #27
    O Riain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭O Riain


    mooseknunkle wrote: »
    O Riain wrote: »
    Of course I know that a foreign national could be from anywhere. My point is a finger was pointed straight away at a foreigner when we should be looking at our own home grown scum for this sort of heinous act.

    Who's finger pointing a foreign national was arrested near the scene just after it happened,what dont you get?

    If it's true then fair enough but I've not seen any news site report this, have you got a link?


  • #28
    mooseknunkle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭mooseknunkle


    O Riain wrote: »
    If it's true then fair enough but I've not seen any news site report this, have you got a link?

    It was on the radio yesterday and its in the Sunday World today


  • #29
    O Riain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭O Riain


    mooseknunkle wrote: »
    O Riain wrote: »
    If it's true then fair enough but I've not seen any news site report this, have you got a link?

    It was on the radio yesterday and its in the Sunday World today

    Fair enough. I've seen the reports now. Has anyone seen the Sun's article on this?


  • #30
    2Mad2BeMad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭2Mad2BeMad


    O Riain wrote: »
    Fair enough. I've seen the reports now. Has anyone seen the Sun's article on this?

    You planning on solving the case?
    Sounds like it :pac:


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  • #31
    O Riain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭O Riain


    2Mad2BeMad wrote: »
    O Riain wrote: »
    Fair enough. I've seen the reports now. Has anyone seen the Sun's article on this?

    You planning on solving the case?
    Sounds like it :pac:

    I actually have it solved already but I just want to see how it long after me it takes the Garda to figure it out. But seriously the sun does not hold back in describing the individual. I'm not gonna post the link here but just want to see if anyone has read it.


  • #32
    lertsnim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,803 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    You should apologise for branding people as racists.


  • #33
    O Riain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭O Riain


    lertsnim wrote: »
    You should apologise for branding people as racists.

    Where did I brand any particular person as a racist tell me?


  • #34
    lertsnim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,803 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    You're playing that game are you? Have a read of the thread and grow up.


  • #35
    O Riain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭O Riain


    lertsnim wrote: »
    You're playing that game are you? Have a read of the thread and grow up.

    I said the source itself was racist, if I was calling your man racist then I'd be calling myself a racist for hearing the same things


  • #36
    MRnotlob606
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    Go way bah. You've been found out


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  • #37
    O Riain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭O Riain


    MRnotlob606 wrote: »
    Go way bah. You've been found out

    I certainly have!

    Any more info on the incident? Has the guy been charged?

    Edit: Suppose it's a bit early for that yet!


  • #38
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,203 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Guy was in court this morning at 10.30

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #39
    kayaksurfbum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭kayaksurfbum


    https://www.rte.ie/news/2016/1010/822877-waterford-stabbing/


  • #40
    Rebeccamcgee95
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭Rebeccamcgee95


    Juraci Da Silva, of Johns Lane Apartments. Was given free legal aid and is seen again in court on Thursday.


  • #41
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    From reading the news and star this week they give good details of what actually happened before the stabbings. Apparently there's a lot of CCTV footage of the victims


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  • #42
    O Riain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭O Riain


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    From reading the news and star this week they give good details of what actually happened before the stabbings. Apparently there's a lot of CCTV footage of the victims

    You got a link or can you explain more?


  • #43
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,203 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Mr Banville and his friend assaulted the Brazilian guy before the stabbing, he ran after them a couple of minutes later. This is on cctv, him returning to the area the initial assault took place is also on camera. There is no cctv footage of the actual incident itself from what I know.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #44
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    StringerBell wrote: »
    Mr Banville and his friend assaulted the Brazilian guy before the stabbing, he ran after them a couple of minutes later. This is on cctv, him returning to the area the initial assault took place is also on camera. There is no cctv footage of the actual incident itself from what I know.

    That helps explain the charges I guess ......
    assault causing harm and one count of unlawful possession of a knife

    Thanks.


  • #45
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    StringerBell wrote: »
    Mr Banville and his friend assaulted the Brazilian guy before the stabbing, he ran after them a couple of minutes later. This is on cctv, him returning to the area the initial assault took place is also on camera. There is no cctv footage of the actual incident itself from what I know.

    The two guys got refused entry to a load of pubs around the area


  • #46
    Das Reich
    Registered Users Posts: 736 ✭✭✭Das Reich


    Those Irish people should stop to attack people when they are alone. Got attacked another day in Dublin by some group of Irish without any reason, actually the reason was because I was alone. I should start to carry a knife just in case.


  • #47
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Das Reich wrote:
    Those Irish people should stop to attack people when they are alone. Got attacked another day in Dublin by some group of Irish without any reason, actually the reason was because I was alone. I should start to carry a knife just in case.


    Old thread, but maybe consider a martial arts or self defence. A weapon would probably just cause more problems. Best of luck


  • #48
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,203 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Wouldn't bother with the knife, those Irish will just take it off you and stick it where the sun don't shine.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #49
    MartyMcFly84
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭MartyMcFly84


    What would a knife do? Are you going to kill someone?

    Probably the worst idea I could think of.


  • #50
    wmpdd3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,625 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/brazilian-man-guilty-of-manslaughter-over-killing-of-james-banville-on-waterford-street-36246579.html


    Juraci Da Silva (36) of Park Lane Apartments, Waterford has been found not guilty of murder but guilty of manslaughter for the killing of James Banville on October 8 2016 at New Street in Waterford.

    He was found notguilty of assault causing harm to Conor Hogan and guilty of producing a knife at the same place and on the same date.
    More to follow...


  • #51
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,203 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Fair verdict.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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