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And the winner of dreamer of the year is...

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,590 ✭✭✭tossy


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    A bit like that except my one isn't made-up :)

    Trivia was the wrong word but you missed my point, it doesn't make them any less a sh!t box lol :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Tommyboy40


    Tzardine wrote: »
    The seller is a dreamer with that price, no doubt, but you are the reason I hate selling cars online.

    This is the reason that I hate Boards sometimes. You see how the car was advertised as a clean example if missing a wing mirror. I called about 2 for sale in Limerick, both with full service histories etc. The photos of this car had obviously been taken a long long time ago and it has sat in a yard for close to 2 years I imagine. It was sitting right down on it's ass, the windows didn't't work at all. The fronts fully up so that you couldn't close the doors properly and the rears open 2 inches. The interior was badly water damaged from this. The car obviously wouldn't start and the salesman forced open the electric boor to jump it. When it started, still no windows, no soft close doors, multiple error messages and best of all, a single stamp at 8,800 miles in the service book. The other was just as bad. I'd driven to Limerick wasting €80 odd in fuel and my day to see them. The car was genuinely only worth €1000 in scrap. The CL is a difficult barge to shift but an honest description would at least weed out the scrap. It's easier to buy a perfect car with a scrap engine and replace it than to chase electrical gremlins in a bogey one


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    Tommyboy40 wrote: »
    This is the reason that I hate Boards sometimes. You see how the car was advertised as a clean example if missing a wing mirror. I called about 2 for sale in Limerick, both with full service histories etc. The photos of this car had obviously been taken a long long time ago and it has sat in a yard for close to 2 years I imagine. It was sitting right down on it's ass, the windows didn't't work at all. The fronts fully up so that you couldn't close the doors properly and the rears open 2 inches. The interior was badly water damaged from this. The car obviously wouldn't start and the salesman forced open the electric boor to jump it. When it started, still no windows, no soft close doors, multiple error messages and best of all, a single stamp at 8,800 miles in the service book. The other was just as bad. I'd driven to Limerick wasting €80 odd in fuel and my day to see them. The car was genuinely only worth €1000 in scrap. The CL is a difficult barge to shift but an honest description would at least weed out the scrap. It's easier to buy a perfect car with a scrap engine and replace it than to chase electrical gremlins in a bogey one

    Search the garage on here..


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭vintagevrs


    Tommyboy40 wrote: »
    This is the reason that I hate Boards sometimes.

    Maybe you should have included some of that detail as the reason you offered a seller a 6th of their asking price in your original post?


  • Registered Users Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Tommyboy40


    Search the garage on here..

    Really? I wasn't aware of that. The other was for sale at a main dealer of another inferior German marque and while not nearly as bad, had spent too much time on salty UK roads. The only good thing about our ridiculous tax system is that it makes these big engined cars cheaper over here.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Tommyboy40


    vintagevrs wrote: »
    Maybe you should have included some of that detail as the reason you offered a seller a 6th of their asking price in your original post?

    Point taken but it was a morning post, had to build up to it


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    Tommyboy40 wrote: »
    Really? I wasn't aware of that. The other was for sale at a main dealer of another inferior German marque and while not nearly as bad, had spent too much time on salty UK roads. The only good thing about our ridiculous tax system is that it makes these big engined cars cheaper over here.

    The one in the garage on the roundabout I take it? I thought it looked clean enough as I drove through for a sconce recently. It has been there a while mind you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Tommyboy40


    The one in the garage on the roundabout I take it? I thought it looked clean enough as I drove through for a sconce recently. It has been there a while mind you.

    It looks clean from a distance and I was offered a deal but they baulked at letting me plug this into it

    IMG_4092.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    To be fair is sounds like a **** car but let's be real
    1. You should have just walked away, offering €1000 scrap value just to be a dick is just being a dick. Not cool.
    2. I work in a garage and if someone brought their own diagnostic equipment with them and wanted to plug in they wouldn't be entertained.
    Sure, it seems innocent but I have no idea what the persons intension is. It could easily be used to damage the car if someone wanted to.
    If they wanted to watch as we used our own equipment that would be fine.

    What were you really expecting to happen?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    CianRyan wrote: »
    To be fair is sounds like a **** car but let's be real
    1. You should have just walked away, offering €1000 scrap value just to be a dick is just being a dick. Not cool.
    2. I work in a garage and if someone brought their own diagnostic equipment with them and wanted to plug in they wouldn't be entertained.
    Sure, it seems innocent but I have no idea what the persons intension is. It could easily be used to damage the car if someone wanted to.
    If they wanted to watch as we used our own equipment that would be fine.

    What were you really expecting to happen?

    I've sold cars to people whom have brought code readers and never had an issue and also bought cars and plugged them in and people have had no issue.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    Tommyboy40 wrote: »
    I'd driven to Limerick wasting €80 odd in fuel and my day to see them.

    Unless you're after some exotic, never drive more than 30 mins to see a car. You can see enough rubbish in that radius not to take longer trips...


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    I've sold cars to people whom have brought code readers and never had an issue and also bought cars and plugged them in and people have had no issue.

    Privately or in a dealers?
    grogi wrote: »
    Unless you're after some exotic, never drive more than 30 mins to see a car. You can see enough rubbish in that radius not to take longer trips...

    I've driven much longer for sheds but I was fully expecting them to be sheds. Haha
    If you're prepared to just buy whatever the **** it turns out to be then just enjoy the road trip. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    CianRyan wrote: »
    2. I work in a garage and if someone brought their own diagnostic equipment with them and wanted to plug in they wouldn't be entertained.
    Sure, it seems innocent but I have no idea what the persons intension is. It could easily be used to damage the car if someone wanted to.
    If they wanted to watch as we used our own equipment that would be fine.

    What were you really expecting to happen?

    I have been keys for the cars to test drive them alone... I could do much more damage than with a diagnostic equipment...


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    grogi wrote: »
    I have been keys for the cars to test drive them alone... I could do much more damage than with a diagnostic equipment...

    Same as above really, no garage is going to let you take a car alone because if something goes wrong, the sales man or mechanic is going to loose their job over it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Tommyboy40


    CianRyan wrote: »
    To be fair is sounds like a **** car but let's be real
    1. You should have just walked away, offering €1000 scrap value just to be a dick is just being a dick. Not cool.
    2. I work in a garage and if someone brought their own diagnostic equipment with them and wanted to plug in they wouldn't be entertained.
    Sure, it seems innocent but I have no idea what the persons intension is. It could easily be used to damage the car if someone wanted to.
    If they wanted to watch as we used our own equipment that would be fine.

    What were you really expecting to happen?

    I was buying a CL. I didn't want to buy a lemon. The request to diagnose the car was only for the second one I saw, which was 100% better than the first but still a bag of ****e. I wouldn't buy a car of this type with such potential pitfalls without having a look at the codes. When a suspension refurb costs over 5k in parts you would have to be sure. if i was a dealer, i'd understand that taking a car like this is a gamble and do anything to try shift it. On a side note, the first yard I visited was a testament to our messed up system. There was well over a million quids worth of rotting high end cars, cars which would be worth money anywhere except here, where anything over 2.0 is considered excessive. I own several cars and it's a constant dance of taxing and declaring off road. If I had to keep everything taxed all the time it would cost €7528, and one is a Smart which costs €199


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    CianRyan wrote: »
    Same as above really, no garage is going to let you take a car alone because if something goes wrong, the sales man or mechanic is going to loose their job over it.

    I was talking about garages only... I test drove cars from 15 year old bangers to brand new ones... All alone or only with the Mrs...

    It was only the MSL guys that insisted on being in the car.


  • Registered Users Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Tommyboy40


    CianRyan wrote: »
    Same as above really, no garage is going to let you take a car alone because if something goes wrong, the sales man or mechanic is going to loose their job over it.

    Cian, I arrived and the salesman handed me the keys and I drove away alone. I'd be stunned if a salesman suggested coming along.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,074 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    Tommyboy40 wrote: »
    I was buying a CL. I didn't want to buy a lemon...

    I just can't get my head around why you'd travel (?) 200 km to Limerick to look at a CL with a broken boot badge and a missing wing mirror if you didn't want to buy a lemon...


  • Registered Users Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Tommyboy40


    grogi wrote: »
    Unless you're after some exotic, never drive more than 30 mins to see a car. You can see enough rubbish in that radius not to take longer trips...

    See how many CL's are for sale on drugdeal, weed out the obvious lemons and pre facelift (never buy a prefacelift, that's when they fix all the problems) and there aren't many left. I also went there in a W140 CL and would have driven to China if I had the 20k it would cost in petrol. The 215 CL gets over 30mpg, positively frugal.


  • Registered Users Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Tommyboy40


    I just can't get my head around why you'd travel (?) 200 km to Limerick to look at a CL with a broken boot badge and a missing wing mirror if you didn't want to buy a lemon...

    Broken boot badge €25, mirror €300 ish eBay. A couple of small things like that wouldn't put me off. You can't own these kind of cars without being handy, having mates with the Mercedes SD connect and having a Merc specialist indie is a must. Anything I buy I pull apart, clean and put back together again. It should look as if it's just come from the factory. If there was nothing to do to it I'd be bored!
    Gratuitous picture of polished R129 SL 500
    Ulrich front.jpg


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    Tommyboy40 wrote: »
    Anything I buy I pull apart, clean and put back together again. It should look as if it's just come from the factory. If there was nothing to do to it I'd be bored!

    I like you tommyboy! You're my kinda fella! Ha!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    Tommyboy40 wrote: »
    See how many CL's are for sale on drugdeal, weed out the obvious lemons and pre facelift (never buy a prefacelift, that's when they fix all the problems) and there aren't many left. I also went there in a W140 CL and would have driven to China if I had the 20k it would cost in petrol. The 215 CL gets over 30mpg, positively frugal.

    You're a collector - that's a different breed ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Tommyboy40


    grogi wrote: »
    You're a collector - that's a different breed ;)

    I spend less than someone who buys a BMW 520D and changes it every 2 years, and I get to keep the cars. I don't care whether they'll ever be worth money, I get to look at them all the time. I'm probably a salesman's worst nightmare, I see every tiny thing and have to make it right. Mercedes do help a lot with this; how much to replace this door courtesy light?

    IMG_4116.jpg

    Less than €10 and it comes with the bulb! Special order from Germany


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,429 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    That cost more than my couch and armchair combined! :eek::eek::rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,429 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    My grandfather had the rear seats off a jag as their sofa. Way before Top gear!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    My grandfather had the rear seats off a jag as their sofa. Way before Top gear!

    My house isn't big enough for me to have a mancave, and being childless doesn't really necessitate one, but when the time comes that will be the first thing to include!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    I'm on the lookout for one of these at the moment. About a grand overpriced.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-s60-2-4-d-se-4dr-auto/13382532

    I bought this today. Advertised at 3800 initially, I paid 2750 with a FULL tank and €20 back for luck. It is genuinely like new inside and I'd say there is barely an option that didn't go unticked. Book is stamped every 10000 on the 10000. Belt done and serviced. Needs a few bushings and a bearing is whining slightly but I'm very happy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,429 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    They've aged so well considering when they came out.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,257 ✭✭✭✭Autosport


    Welcome to the Volvo club :) well wear!


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