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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Arbo94


    ianobrien wrote: »
    Well, I won't be putting a photo up of my detailing supplies as they are spread from hell to breakfast. The chemicals are in one large storage box in the back of the garage, with the cloths, etc in another. The power washer is under the bench, with the DA in its box "somewhere" under the Carcoon (the carcoon is deflated at the moment). The wet vac is in the lean-to, along with the milk crates. The step ladders and brush handles (for strapping the Wheel Woolies onto to reach the middle of the roofs and under the skylights) are in the corner just inside the garage door. The planks for the platform are up the back thrown next to the scaffolding........

    Not your conventional detailing equipment and storage locations. Then again, I just don't do cars.....
    Is it bad that I just want to organise your things now :-D my garage is shared with only about 10% of the room and 10% of the say in what happens with it, meaning I'm very limited in what I can change about it! Ideally I'd love to do something Matt Mooreman (obsessed garage) style. I would strongly advise any of you checking him out if you're slightly on the OCD side of detailing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Curran


    My detailing storage area is a complete mess, as its a mix of many different products; samples, half used bottles, etc.
    I know what is there and if Im planning a job, and I know I need something, its pretty easy for me to pick up the bits I need! :D :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,187 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    Hi all. I'm hoping for some good advice from you regarding overspray. I'm reasonably experienced on the detailing side of things and have completed a number of cars for family, friends, work colleagues etc. However a friend had just recently bought a second hand car that had a bumper respray. Unfortunately whoever did it dumped massive amounts of overspray on 2 doors on one side of the vehicle. He wanted me to do a full decon and polish on the car but I'm wondering will i need a heavy clay bar to remove the overspray first? My normal go to is bilt hamber medium but im not sure if that would cut it. Is this the correct way to go about it or do you know of any other methods of removal? Thanks in advance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Curran


    Claying might do the job, but if its heavy overspray, you might just be best going with your regular clay, and then seeing what polishing does to it - it may need a light wet sanding to shift it quickly. A few sets with the polisher will be a slower, safer approach, but if you're reasonably skilled already, a 3000 grit wet sand might be the best approach. You'll get a fair idea when you clay...if some lifts, then skip the wet sanding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,187 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    Would you be looking at the heavy grade clay curran followed by a light abrasive polish maybe? ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Curran


    Id try out whatever clay you have - if some of it will come of with clay, then the remaining will polish off quite easily


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭Technique


    Hal1 wrote: »
    I've mine a few years got it here: https://www.cleanstore.co.uk/products/Product.asp?ID=206

    To use the wet suction vac function, use a small amount of detergent in warm water. If it gets too foamy it will cause all sorts of suction problems and you'll have to rinse out the machine.

    A quick clip showing it doing it's thing:


    Looking at some of the other extraction vacuums you might find the karcher one less fidly as the attachments can come loose a bit on the gve370.
    https://www.cleanstore.co.uk/products/Product.asp?ID=14105 This one would be more hard wearing I'd imagine and better for frequent use if cleaning lots of cars, vans, etc.

    Heiton Buckley are doing the Karcher WD3P for €129.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,187 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    Curran wrote: »
    Id try out whatever clay you have - if some of it will come of with clay, then the remaining will polish off quite easily

    Ok so i tried claying one portion of the affected area. It certainly improved but didn't remove it all back to the original paint. I'm going to detailing shed to place an order curran. Which compound would you recommend? The paintwork in general is only 3 years old and is in good order but i will polish over the whole car to get a uniform finish. I'll be using a DA....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭edburg


    I'm going to detailing shed to place an order curran. Which compound would you recommend? .

    Ask him when your there :D:D:D


    Unless you mean online then in that case my tongue in cheek above is part of a completely useless post :pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,187 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    No its my fault. ..badly worded on my part! ! It will be an online order. I have menzerna medium compound and their final finishing compound but i also have megs 105 and 205....interesting to see if he recommends something different/better than those. ...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Arbo94


    Has anybody got any really small vacuum attachments? Something that can go into vents and things, preferably for numatic international. I did find this but just curious as to if anyone has anything else?

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FOR-HOOVER-VACUUM-CLEANER-MINI-ATTACHMENT-TOOL-KIT-CAR-COMPUTER-/131522353812?hash=item1e9f57da94:g:H40AAOSwstxVZJo c?


  • Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Got the chance to try out the bilt hambler wheel cleaner ,
    The wheels were't filthy by any means but I think its excellent stuff.
    Maybe the purple foam is just to mind **** you!!!!!!
    Got 1l on ebay via PM

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bilt-Hamber-Auto-Wheel-Alloy-Cleaner-1-Litre-Spray-Non-Acidic-Removes-Iron-X-/262580625943?hash=item3d23066217:g:Fv0AAOSwKrhVXJmw

    I wonder if you used it,
    washed it off.
    let it dry,
    then used it again would it go purple ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭*Kol*


    Got the chance to try out the bilt hambler wheel cleaner ,
    The wheels were't filthy by any means but I think its excellent stuff.
    Maybe the purple foam is just to mind **** you!!!!!!
    Got 1l on ebay via PM

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bilt-Hamber-Auto-Wheel-Alloy-Cleaner-1-Litre-Spray-Non-Acidic-Removes-Iron-X-/262580625943?hash=item3d23066217:g:Fv0AAOSwKrhVXJmw

    I wonder if you used it,
    washed it off.
    let it dry,
    then used it again would it go purple ?

    I have never tried to use it twice to see if it will go purple again. It's available in Detailing shed too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭SHINKICKER


    Hi there I recently touched up some scratches on my car and some of them look a bit ropey what's the best thing to do to remove the overspray and blend them in and Polish them- any advice on the what's the best way to touch them up? One or 2 would need to be filled with filler -can I start the process again if I sand them back?
    Thanks in advance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,052 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    then used it again would it go purple ?

    You'd probably get a tiny bit but not much - think idea is it goes purple when comes into contact with fallout, so first application should have gotten rid of most of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Curran


    Ok so i tried claying one portion of the affected area. It certainly improved but didn't remove it all back to the original paint. I'm going to detailing shed to place an order curran. Which compound would you recommend? The paintwork in general is only 3 years old and is in good order but i will polish over the whole car to get a uniform finish. I'll be using a DA....

    CarPro Fixer would be very good, but what you have should be fine too...unless you don't have enough to do the job on the whole car.
    CarPro Reflect to give the paintwork a deep gloss when you've finished correction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭SHINKICKER


    SHINKICKER wrote: »
    Hi there I recently touched up some scratches on my car and some of them look a bit ropey what's the best thing to do to remove the overspray and blend them in and Polish them- any advice on the what's the best way to touch them up? One or 2 would need to be filled with filler -can I start the process again if I sand them back?
    Thanks in advance

    Anyone help a brother out?!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭edburg


    SHINKICKER wrote: »
    Anyone help a brother out?!!!!!!!

    Start with good clean, attack edges of scratch with some sand paper (wet dry 1000grit roughly) to clean edges up then build up paint in scratch so its heaped*. Leave for a week then attack with machine polish to blend it in as best you can. Maybe 2000 grit to level before polish.

    With paint repair like that blending is about best, it most likely show up still in certain light.

    *heaped = so level new paint is higher than actual cars original paint.


    https://youtu.be/jmEhsuO2cKY
    https://youtu.be/v5QAjWbx03s

    Video's showing process,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭SHINKICKER


    edburg wrote: »
    Start with good clean, attack edges of scratch with some sand paper (wet dry 1000grit roughly) to clean edges up then build up paint in scratch so its heaped*. Leave for a week then attack with machine polish to blend it in as best you can. Maybe 2000 grit to level before polish.

    With paint repair like that blending is about best, it most likely show up still in certain light.

    *heaped = so level new paint is higher than actual cars original paint.


    https://youtu.be/jmEhsuO2cKY
    https://youtu.be/v5QAjWbx03s

    Video's showing process,

    Cheers !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    i've used it a few times now....and i've come to the conclusion that snowfoam is a gimmick...isn't it

    top half of a car ..ok...bottom half.... useless, it has little or no effect

    nah, i'm back to the bucket & sponge


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Arbo94


    fryup wrote: »
    i've used it a few times now....and i've come to the conclusion that snowfoam is a gimmick...isn't it

    top half of a car ..ok...bottom half.... useless, it has little or no effect

    nah, i'm back to the bucket & sponge

    I would agree in saying it has a very small effect, personally I never leave the foam to dwell fully (max 5 minutes) I actually use it to coat the car in the same soap as what's in my bucket to try to give maximum slickness while washing. I also rinse with the pressure washer before foam to remove most of the gunk. Not saying what I do is perfect but from trying different things out this is just what I like


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,690 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    fryup wrote: »
    i've used it a few times now....and i've come to the conclusion that snowfoam is a gimmick...isn't it

    top half of a car ..ok...bottom half.... useless, it has little or no effect

    nah, i'm back to the bucket & sponge

    Am I thinking you are under the illusion thatsnowfoam actually does the full wash process?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Arbo94


    Worth a watch if you're interested in snowfoam

    https://youtu.be/Fmp6Hw9pH4s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭Ryath


    Arbo94 wrote: »
    Worth a watch if you're interested in snowfoam

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    vectra wrote: »
    Am I thinking you are under the illusion thatsnowfoam actually does the full wash process?

    well thats what its advertised as...
    This is as close to a ‘touch less’ wash as you will get

    http://www.50caldetailing.co.uk/products/ambush-superfoam/4mbu5h

    it doesn't even come close, imo waste of money


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭*Kol*


    fryup wrote: »
    well thats what its advertised as...



    http://www.50caldetailing.co.uk/products/ambush-superfoam/4mbu5h

    it doesn't even come close, imo waste of money

    You could say it's near touch less in dry countries where you only would have a light layer of dust on the car. Here there is too much crud thrown up from the wet roads to have a truly touchless wash. The snow foam will help loosen the dirt though. So it does have a benefit in that you don't risk wiping heavy dirt around your paintwork.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,690 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    fryup wrote: »
    well thats what its advertised as...



    http://www.50caldetailing.co.uk/products/ambush-superfoam/4mbu5h

    it doesn't even come close, imo waste of money

    Well. Unless you have a very good ceramic coating on the car you are in for a shock.
    Even with ceramic, the car needs to be washed properly after foaming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^

    well thats rarely mentioned in all those promotional videos online


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Curran


    The benefit of snowfoam debate will be a never ending one, as there will always be a few different schools of thought....

    - those that understand that a) there is no such thing as a touch-less wash on a car that is in need of a wash (in Ireland / UK anyways), b) that the snowfoam will lift and suspend heavy (not all) dirt in the solution and allow it to drip from the car safely, c) that the snowfoam will help loosen the remaining dirt on the car, d) that it helps keep hard to reach areas cleaner for longer

    - those that think its a gimmick

    - those that think it does a bit of work, but sure isn't it a bit of craic anyways :D :P

    A lance can also be handy to have if you dont have a heavily soiled car, say a light dusting, that you can foam the car and use it as a shampoo and just use a rinse bucket, to do a quick wash.

    The closest thing you'll get to a touch-less wash with our weather and road conditions is if your car is only lightly soiled, your paintwork coated with a coating that is very hydrophobic, use a snowfoam with good cleaning ability.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭leupold90


    After seeing some posts on line I got some BH Auto-Foam and a spray bottle to try using it as a pre-wash. I generally just spray the bottom half of the car and let it dwell while getting buckets, hose etc. set up.
    It doesn't seem to make a whole lot of difference to the dirt on the car - although I assume it loosens it a bit but what I did notice was that it definitely makes it easier to remove dead bugs and flies..
    My 2 cents.


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