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Hurricane Matthew

  • 30-09-2016 1:08pm
    #1
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,719 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Depending on where it's strongest winds hit, this Hurricane could be destructive. It's expected to strengthen over the open seas and veer Northwards, in the process becoming a major hurricane. It's one to keep an eye on for the East Coast of the USA into the future.
    Public Advisory 9A
    Data from the aircraft indicate that maximum sustained winds have
    increased to near 105 mph (165 km/h) with higher gusts. Additional
    strengthening is forecast during the next 48 hours, and Matthew
    could become a major hurricane later today or tonight.
    Hurricane-force winds extend outward up to 45 miles (75 km) from
    the center and tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 185
    miles (295 km).
    The latest minimum central pressure reported by the aircraft was
    971 mb (28.67 inches).
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    This storm will almost certainly bring large-scale destruction to Jamaica and Cuba. Landfalls after that are a bit unpredictable this far out.

    It's obviously far too early to say, but the models seem to generally favour a Northeastward track after Cuba in which case it would avoid the US altogether, although it may still brush the coast closely enough to cause some stormy weather. GFS ensembles show very few scenarios in which it moves west once it begins its northward turn, and the ECM unfortunately doesn't do predictions that far out. On WU's chart, the GFDL and NGDFL are the only models showing US landfall, with the BAMM, GFS and HWRF all taking it out to sea:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,675 ✭✭✭ronnie3585


    NHC's latest update has winds at 140mph, Cat 4. Huge intensification throughout the day. He's turing out to be a beast!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,719 Mod ✭✭✭✭star gazer


    It's now a Category 5 Hurricane with maximum sustained winds of 260km/h (160 miles). The rainfall forecast for Jamaica (which is on a hurricane watch) is 10 to 15 inches with up to 25 inches in pockets, similar amounts for Southern and South West Haiti (which is on a tropical storm watch). Minimum central pressure is 941mb. It's a very serious hurricane and the level of destruction in it's path is on course to be severe.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,067 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    The NHC saying that Mathew has cloud tops colder then -80C ,couple that with travelling over water at approx 28C , the mind boggles at the energy being produced. That is some serious amount of rain set to fall.

    I note that the NHC are reminding people that Florida cant be ruled from the impacts of Matthew out at this stage either.

    It is important to remind users that average NHC track forecast
    errors are around 175 miles at day 4 and 230 miles at day 5.
    Therefore, it is too soon to rule out possible hurricane impacts
    from Matthew in Florida.


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    NOAA ESRL Demo -- Tropical Cyclone Tracks from Experimental Forecast & Ensemble Models
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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,719 Mod ✭✭✭✭star gazer


    Pressure having increased a little during the day is down to 940mb. Max sustained wind speed of 240 km/h (150mph) making it a category 4 Hurricane. Hurricane warnings now for most of Haiti and Jamaica with the track forecast to be a little east of previous. Hurricane watch for Eastern Cuba and the rest of Haiti. Hopefully people have enough warning to prepare as much as possible for the Hurricane.
    NHC Hurricane Matthew public advisory 15:
    Matthew is expected to produce total rain accumulations of 15 to 25
    inches over southern Haiti, with possible isolated maximum amounts
    of 40 inches. Matthew is expected to produce total rain
    accumulations of 10 to 20 inches over eastern Jamaica, the Dominican
    Republic, and eastern Cuba, with possible isolated maximum amounts
    of 25 inches. This rainfall will likely produce life-threatening
    flash floods and mud slides.

    STORM SURGE: The combination of a dangerous storm surge and large
    and destructive waves could raise water levels by as much as the
    following amounts above normal tide levels...

    Southern Coast of Cuba east of Cabo Cruz...7 to 11 feet
    South Coast of Haiti...5 to 8 feet
    Northern Coast of Cuba east of Camaguey...4 to 6 feet
    Jamaica...3 to 5 feet
    Gulf of Gonave in Haiti...2 to 4 feet
    RTE Independent Irish Times


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD


    The forward speed of Matthew as it approaches land will have a very big impact on the damage as much as the category strength. If its slow, it will throw up the seas and pummell the coast over a longer duration. If it speeds up as it approaches land, it will pass by quickly (still damaging, but at least not a 24-36 hour event) for the poor unfortunates in its path.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD


    Still waiting for this turn north. The last 8hr loop has Matthew moving Northwest with the last iteration west. All the models say a sharp turn north later today.

    https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/atlantic/2016/Hurricane-Matthew?map=sat


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,067 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Very slow moving indeed, potentially catastrophic. According to the NHC set to remain a Cat 4 for the next 36 - 48hrs with little wind sheer, once in the Atlantic set to decrease some due to increased sheer and cooler ocean temperatures.

    BULLETIN
    HURRICANE MATTHEW INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 17A
    NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL142016
    800 AM EDT SUN OCT 02 2016

    ...POWERFUL HURRICANE MATTHEW CONTINUES MOVING SLOWLY
    NORTHWESTWARD...


    SUMMARY OF 800 AM EDT...1200 UTC...INFORMATION
    LOCATION...14.1N 74.3W
    ABOUT 340 MI...545 KM SSW OF PORT AU PRINCE HAITI
    ABOUT 315 MI...510 KM SSE OF KINGSTON JAMAICA
    MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...150 MPH...240 KM/H
    PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 320 DEGREES AT 5 MPH...7 KM/H
    MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...947 MB...27.96 INCHES


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,719 Mod ✭✭✭✭star gazer


    vis0.gif
    For an imagery loop of Hurricane Matthew.
    Up to forty inches of rain or about a meter in isolated parts of Haiti, it's a big worry and so tough on the nation if the current forecast comes to pass, given the recent devastating earthquake in 2010 it went through.
    It's still expected to move towards the North West and then North but the latest advisory has it essentially meandering, moving West at 6km/h. Max sustained winds at 220km/h (140mph). 947mb (advisory 18)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD


    5pm update due within the hour. Hoping to see the turn north as all the models have suggested....


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,067 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    From the 1100 NHC discussion..

    Also there has been a persistent, but
    inexplicable, cluster of deep convection located a couple of degrees
    to the east of the hurricane and the effect of this feature on
    Matthew's intensity evolution is unknown.


    Any ideas what this could be ?

    Looking at the loop below, it's like a second cyclone wants to develop ?

    http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/flash-ft.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD


    Been there for a couple of days trailing the main circulation. Not that familiar with this but it's carrying about a foot of rain in addition to the main area


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,421 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    From the 1100 NHC discussion..

    Also there has been a persistent, but
    inexplicable, cluster of deep convection located a couple of degrees
    to the east of the hurricane and the effect of this feature on
    Matthew's intensity evolution is unknown.


    Any ideas what this could be ?

    Looking at the loop below, it's like a second cyclone wants to develop ?

    http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/flash-ft.html

    Eyewall replacement hardly going to move in from over there maybe ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD


    at201614_ensmodel.gif&width=150&height=113&v=2

    Current models which are all in unison for a northerly turn.

    Hope they are right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD


    at201614_sat.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD


    In terms of satelite visability (it will go dark in about 2 hrs), the storm is displaying a near perfect symetrical shape, notice the outward flow of outter bands. Interested to see the next update in terms of central pressure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD


    000
    WTNT34 KNHC 022037
    TCPAT4

    BULLETIN
    HURRICANE MATTHEW ADVISORY NUMBER 19
    NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL142016
    500 PM EDT SUN OCT 02 2016

    ...POWERFUL MATTHEW MAINTAINING CATEGORY FOUR INTENSITY...


    SUMMARY OF 500 PM EDT...2100 UTC...INFORMATION
    LOCATION...14.6N 74.8W
    ABOUT 320 MI...520 KM SSW OF PORT AU PRINCE HAITI
    ABOUT 270 MI...435 KM SSE OF KINGSTON JAMAICA
    MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...145 MPH...230 KM/H
    PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 325 DEGREES AT 5 MPH...7 KM/H
    MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...945 MB...27.91 INCHES

    http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT4+shtml/022037.shtml

    No change in central pressure or strength from last update.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD


    8pm update just over an hour away. I'll put that and the 11pm updates up here though the chances of a picture are largely gone now as we go dark for the next 12 hours


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD


    Hurricane hunter aircraft is now within the eye of the storm so we will have new data within 25 mins


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD


    8pm update in with now change from 5pm. Still tracking NW at 5 mph.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD


    11pm advisory has the long awaited northern turn. Now tracking N at 5 mph. 145mph and 943mb.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭511


    I've never seen a hurricane spawn a huge blob like that, especially in just a few hours. Seems to have dragged up an enormous amount of moisture from the ocean.

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,719 Mod ✭✭✭✭star gazer


    The latest NHC advisory (21) has max sustained winds of 215km/h 130mph, still Cat 4, min central pressure of 943mb. It's slow moving at 9km/h and on course to be very close (landfall?) to South Western Haiti and still forecast to put a lot of rain (15-25 inches up to 40 inches/one meter) onto the impoverished country. It's a big worry that the infrastructure of Haiti is limited and such a Hurricane could be seriously life-threatening and cause widespread destruction.
    I should have acknowledged in my Opening Post that even at the time, the potential rain and storm surge could also be major factors and not just the wind speed and been more clear that the windspeed would already be enough to cause dangerous, destructive conditions. The latest advisory has a 10 to 15 foot raise in water level with the storm surge-big wave combination threat to Southeastern and Central Bahamas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    12z GFS saying Matthew will hug the east coast. Not what people over there want to see happening.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Both the GFS and the two GFDL models, which are cited by Jeff Masters among the most reliable hurricane models, are now forecasting landfall in the United States. Furthermore, they are essentially predicting that Matthew will hug the coast as it moves Northward, which potentially means hurricane-force winds in several consecutive states as it moves along the inner Eastern seaboard.

    In fact, the latest spaghetti models show only a tiny handful of outlier models now predicting a northeastern deflection out to sea. North Carolina and Virginia in particular are in for a bit of a battering, assuming of course that the storm doesn't either change direction again or lose considerable strength before it gets that far north.

    Most commentators are talking about the potential for wind shear to attack Matthew once it clears the Bahamas.

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    The blue dashed lines on white-background strips on the left-hand side of the graphic near the US are upper troughs, and it's from the edges of these that upper level winds tend to emerge. So it looks like Matthew will encounter at least some shear as it moves northward - because the Pacific still has a lot of leftover head from last year's El Nino, those upper troughs are coming from EPAC thunderstorms and moving west-to-east across the US and Western Atlantic. They will probably have arrived into the Atlantic or at least be very close to it by the time Matthew begins to make landfall (assuming it does), which should drop the intensity a little. As you can see, Matthew has been under an upper anticyclone (blue H) for most of its life so far, which is one of the reasons it was able to strengthen so much as this feature pushed shearing upper level winds away from the fledging storm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,031 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    NBC News has a piece about the likely impact on Haiti's western peninsula. Severe flooding is expected, exacerbated by how denuded of vegetation much of the land is. The town of Les Cayes (pop 87,000) and surrounding villages are basically on a huge flood plain, it appears from the topography.

    Death has this much to be said for it:
    You don’t have to get out of bed for it.
    Wherever you happen to be
    They bring it to you—free.

    — Kingsley Amis



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,719 Mod ✭✭✭✭star gazer


    It's still slow moving at 11km/h and max sustained wind at 220km/h 140mph. Given the limited nature of much of the housing in Haiti and the combination of wind, rain, higher water levels and slow movement, the amount of damage Hurricane Matthew is now likely to do is immense.
    NHC Forecast advisory 23 Note the North Eastern bias of the distance of the wind strength.
    ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE 940 MB
    EYE DIAMETER 15 NM
    MAX SUSTAINED WINDS 120 KT WITH GUSTS TO 145 KT.
    64 KT....... 35NE 30SE 30SW 30NW.
    50 KT....... 70NE 50SE 50SW 50NW.
    34 KT.......160NE 100SE 90SW 120NW.
    12 FT SEAS..240NE 240SE 180SW 240NW.
    WINDS AND SEAS VARY GREATLY IN EACH QUADRANT. RADII IN NAUTICAL
    MILES ARE THE LARGEST RADII EXPECTED ANYWHERE IN THAT QUADRANT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,174 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Where is there a live satellite for this thing.

    My son is Matthew so im showing him his hurricane


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,675 ✭✭✭ronnie3585


    Latest GFS runs looking grim for Florida:(
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    ^ Indeed, and the NHC are now giving Matthew an extended period as a major hurricane - their charts had previously been suggesting that it would be down to Cat 2 or lower once it cleared the Bahamas, but their latest cone warning still has it listed as M (cat 3 or higher) when it's pulling in alongside Florida. So it looks like the Bahamas are in for a bigger battering than previously presumed, and it's also looking increasingly likely that the US is going to take some serious hits as well.

    Matthew is starting to look like the storm that finished Joaquin's job from last year - it was supposed to essentially be the first major "super storm" since Sandy for the US East Coast until it veered away at the last minute. Unfortunately the trend is reversed this time - while in Joaquin's case, the ECM was the only model initially showing a seaward turn and the rest of the models reluctantly joined it, this year the ECM seems to have flagged Matthew as a US landfall before the rest of the models, and they are now nudging closer to agreeing.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD


    pauldry wrote: »
    Where is there a live satellite for this thing.

    My son is Matthew so im showing him his hurricane

    There are links above to http://www.wunderground.com/ which have live feeds

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPy9aGCCv8U

    Not live but the ISS had a look earlier today 2:53 onwards has the eye.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD


    In terms of impacts over the next couple of days, Haiti is definitely the one to be concerned about. Its a 3rd world country that has suffered more than its fair share of natural disasters.

    140 miles south of the western tip of Haiti. This means 20-40 hours of rain until it passes out of the way of Haiti, with the most wind & rain on the eastern quadrant. This is not going to go well for this island nation.

    Bahamas and Cuba are better equipped to cope.

    at201614_sat.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD


    2016-10-03-photo-00000457.jpg?v=ap&w=980&h=551&api=7db9fe61-7414-47b5-9871-e17d87b8b6a0

    Rain rolling into Haiti earlier today

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    Taking cover

    2016-10-03-photo-00000458.jpg?v=ap&w=980&h=551&api=7db9fe61-7414-47b5-9871-e17d87b8b6a0

    Flooded car in Haiti earlier today

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    Guantanamo evacuation yesterday

    Source https://weather.com/news/news/hurricane-matthew-latest-news-0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Jesus, that top photograph of the first thunderstorm is absolutely terrifying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭iLikeWaffles


    Jesus, that top photograph of the first thunderstorm is absolutely terrifying.

    Holy balls imaging that coming towards you. Can do nothing but pray!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,527 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    Ct17u74XEAAP2MT.jpg

    Direct hit of a bhouy. Which survived!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,719 Mod ✭✭✭✭star gazer


    Minimum central pressure gone to 934mb with maximum sustained winds of 230km/h (145miles). It is moving a little faster at 13km/h. Rain and raised water levels the same as previously forecast with all that moisture it picked up moving slowly over the warm Caribbean sea.
    ...MATTHEW BEARING DOWN ON HAITI...
    ...LIFE-THREATENING RAIN...WIND...AND STORM SURGE BEGINNING TO
    SPREAD OVER PORTIONS OF HAITI...
    NHC advisory 24A.

    This is a powerful Hurricane for people along the Eastern Seaboard of the US to keep a very close eye on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    Holy balls imaging that coming towards you. Can do nothing but pray!

    I would imagine seeking shelter and battening down the hatches would be a more fruitful reaction than praying for Jebus to help your plight ;)


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,719 Mod ✭✭✭✭star gazer


    ...EYE OF EXTREMELY DANGEROUS HURRICANE MATTHEW MADE LANDFALL NEAR LES ANGLAIS IN WESTERN HAITI AT 7 AM EDT THIS MORNING...
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    The companion rain formation is still there.

    The wind strength hasn't changed (230km/h), 934mb, moving at 15km/h. Some watches in parts of Florida are likely to be announed some time today. It's forecast to get close to the Florida East coast as a major Hurricane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD


    North Carolina have issued a state of emergency. Precautionary one would suspect


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,031 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    I have friends in Jacksonville, and if they go to a local news website today, they'll see something like this.
    Governor Rick Scott has declared a state of emergency for Florida

    The executive order allocates money and resources for the state to respond to any damage that Hurricane Matthew may cause. Scott has been stressing for days that Floridians should be prepared and not underestimate Matthew's potential impact. He has referred to the storm as life-threatening, citing several people that have died in the Caribbean as a result of the storm.

    The closest approach to Jacksonville will be Friday afternoon and evening as a Category 3 storm

    Matthew is expected to stay 100 to 150 miles off the coast of Northeast Florida. The coasts will be impacted the most with heavy rain and seas up to 20 feet high. Winds will begin to pick up at the beaches beginning on Tuesday and will peak on Thursday and Friday with gusts up to 50-60 miles per hour.
    It might be a bit soon to be that certain about the track Matthew will take, if you ask me.

    Death has this much to be said for it:
    You don’t have to get out of bed for it.
    Wherever you happen to be
    They bring it to you—free.

    — Kingsley Amis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭HighLine




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,719 Mod ✭✭✭✭star gazer


    The Eye of the hurricane is more distinct again and it's moving North at 17km/h, 949mb with max sustained winds of 230km/h. It's on course for the Eastern tip of Cuba.

    Hurricane watches for parts of Eastern Florida, Trop Storm watch for parts of the Southeast with these conditions forecast to start on Thursday. Rainfall total:
    Upper Florida Keys northward to coastal east-central Florida....4 to
    7 inches, isolated 10 inches

    Tropical Storm Nicole has developed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭iLikeWaffles


    I would imagine seeking shelter and battening down the hatches would be a more fruitful reaction than praying for Jebus to help your plight ;)

    You'd be surprised with the power of belief.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,527 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    You'd be surprised with the power of belief.

    Any good accounts on twitter to follow to keep up to date with the latest updates?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12 coq au vin


    Praying for anyone in the path. May Jesus protect them


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,067 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Looking more serious now for the East Coast

    NHC: Users are reminded not to focus on the exact forecast track since
    strong winds, heavy rainfall, and a dangerous storm surge will
    extend far from the center of Matthew. Most of the models shows a
    strong hurricane near the east coast of Florida and the southeast
    United States from days 2 through 5.


    KEY MESSAGES:

    1. Matthew is likely to produce devastating impacts from storm
    surge, extreme winds, heavy rains, flash floods, and/or mudslides in
    portions of the watch and warning areas in Haiti, Cuba, and the
    Bahamas. Please consult statements from the meteorological services
    and other government officials in those countries.

    2. Direct hurricane impacts are possible in Florida later this
    week. Tropical storm and/or hurricane watches have been issued
    for portions of the Florida peninsula and the Florida Keys.

    3. Tropical storm or hurricane conditions could affect portions of
    Georgia, South Carolina, and North Carolina later this week or this
    weekend, even if the center of Matthew remains offshore. It is too
    soon to specify what, if any, direct impacts Matthew might have on
    the remainder of the U.S. east coast farther north. At a minimum,
    very dangerous beach and boating conditions are likely along much of
    the U.S. east coast later this week and weekend.


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    Potential Storm Surge Flooding Map (Inundation)

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,067 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭iLikeWaffles


    irishgeo wrote: »
    Any good accounts on twitter to follow to keep up to date with the latest updates?

    Lots I'm sure but they'll be posted here most likely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    coq au vin wrote: »
    Praying for anyone in the path. May Jesus protect them

    Unlikely Jesus will, or indeed has anything to do with weather mores the point:eek:


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