Mary Robinson wants you to go vegan

bleg · 29-09-2016 08:40PM

I've cut out meat for 5/7 days of the week and I don't miss it.

I feel better, I'm in better shape and it's better for the environment. Everybody wins.

freshpopcorn · 29-09-2016 08:41PM

bleg wrote: »

I've cut out meat for 5/7 days of the week and I don't miss it.

I feel better, I'm in better shape and it's better for the environment. Everybody wins.

Apart from the farmer/butcher/factory workers/etc!

darkpagandeath · 29-09-2016 08:43PM

Harvey Normal wrote: »

If I was eating American beef that might be a concern.

And I want to know what they mean by save ? They do realise water on planet earth is never destroyed unless you break it down in to oxygen and hydrogen.

Mena · 29-09-2016 08:46PM

http://www.futurefood.org/in-vitro-meat/index_en.php

Problem solved and I still get my steak.

SEPT 23 1989 · 29-09-2016 08:47PM

I will give you my steak Robinson when you pry it from my cold dead mouth

Stigura · 29-09-2016 08:49PM

bleg wrote: »

I've cut out meat for 5/7 days of the week .....

My mate, Hugh, cuts out meat Six days a week! Towns slaughter man / butcher / hero

freedominacup · 29-09-2016 08:50PM

Rockefellers wrote: »

Nearly half of all the water used in the U.S. goes to raising animals for food.

It takes more than 2,400 gallons of water to produce just 1 pound of meat, but it takes just 25 gallons to grow 1 pound of wheat.

You save more water by not eating a pound of meat than you do by not showering for six months!

It requires more than 4,000 gallons of water per day to produce food for a typical meat-eater but only 300 gallons of water to produce food for a typical vegan.

On a heavy consumption day here we might use 6000 gals, give or take a few hundred. This is to produce 3000litres of milk. So around 1 litre per pound of milk. Makes the water requirement for your pound of wheat look positively excessive.

Dr Jakub · 29-09-2016 08:51PM

No Mary I won't be living on gruel and mush while you enjoy the good life.

Atoms for Peace · 29-09-2016 08:54PM

Yeast is the future source of protein.

freedominacup · 29-09-2016 08:58PM

If we were stocked to the same level with finishing cattle we'd probably drop water consumption by 50% and be using water at the rate of around six gallons per pound of beef. Not a bad comparison with wheat either. Only thirty percent of this land could be regarded as arable land and then only on the basis that all the good arable land was occupied. In fact I'd love to see some vegan group come in and farm it for veg production. The only stipulation I'd have is that no mechanical destoning was allowed. I don't want my lands natural drainage destroyed so someone can fail to prove a point.

Sam Kade · 29-09-2016 08:59PM

Peregrine wrote: »

Animal agriculture is responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions than all of the transport industry combined.

Do you know anything about the topic? You're coming across as just a very angry and ill-informed man.

I suppose you're living like a peasant to cut your emissions.

Sam Kade · 29-09-2016 09:02PM

Rockefellers wrote: »

"I know the world population is increasing, and Mary Robinson is saying we should go vegan, when humans for millennia have eaten meat and dairy."

Who gives a crap what people did for millennia. We have evolved and now know the damage livestock does to the environment and the damage eating meat does to our health. Time to bring in a tax on meat to compensate society for the damage it does to the environment and the massive health costs for treating people with heart disease/diabetes/cancers caused by eating meat.

Yeah we see people dying all around because of eating meat :rolleyes:

Oops69 · 29-09-2016 09:06PM

Dr Jakub wrote: »

No Mary I won't be living on gruel and mush while you enjoy the good life.

'all pigs are equal but some pigs are more equal than others' , sanctimonious snob that one .

Sam Kade · 29-09-2016 09:09PM

bleg wrote: »

I've cut out meat for 5/7 days of the week and I don't miss it.

I feel better, I'm in better shape and it's better for the environment. Everybody wins.

Do you honestly think that the little amount of meat you used to eat isn't being produced anymore because you cut down?

29-09-2016 09:09PM

Harvey Normal wrote: »

It's still jumping ship. Resigning irelands highest office because "so long fcukers I've got a better job".

That's a ridiculous thing to say. She could have hung around for a few months and then fcuked off to champagne breakfasts for the rest of her life in her Mayo Duchy, but she decided she could contribute better to human rights by taking the UN position.

She said resigning the presidency is her biggest career regret, but I don't see why. It was a technicality, she's one of Ireland's greatest contributions to human rights in our history, and without a doubt one of the world's most influential advocates of women's freedoms and climate justice.

I cannot understand how anyone can be so parochial, as if some great slight was done to you personally. Can you not see the bigger picture?

To the person who mentioned food-air-miles, yes that's correct; we ought to discourage importing so much in volume terms via air and sea. But the harm created by all agriculture is enormous compared to transport. If we must eat meat (and I eat meat several times a week), it's better to eat Irish meat; but we really should be cutting down on it altogether.

Irish farming is fairly intensive, too. Especially the affordable stuff. So the fact that it's not travelling from another part of Europe is of dubious environmental value.

exaisle · 29-09-2016 09:13PM

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Yeast is the future source of protein.

Yeast is the future (and current) source of alcohol!

Giacomo McGubbin · 29-09-2016 09:14PM

Apart from pontificating to everyone else what does noddy actually do ?

Right2Write · 29-09-2016 09:16PM

I think you're missing the point - she seems to be arguing that people should consume less generally. That includes all goods not just food. Reuse, recycle, reduce etc. Since the manufacture of goods and food have an environmental cost. It's not a bad philosophy though it might well have an impact on the conventional market economy if we all buy less goods.

Personally, I'm happy not to eat fish, flesh or fowl unless I kill it myself but each to their own.

Sam Kade · 29-09-2016 09:18PM

Giacomo McGubbin wrote: »

Apart from pontificating to everyone else what does noddy actually do ?

She nods and talks sh1te.

Sam Kade · 29-09-2016 09:20PM

Right2Write wrote: »

I think you're missing the point - she seems to be arguing that people should consume less generally. That includes all goods not just food. Reuse, recycle, reduce etc. Since the manufacture of goods and food have an environmental cost. It's not a bad philosophy though it might well have an impact on the conventional market economy if we all buy less goods.

Personally, I'm happy not to eat fish, flesh or fowl unless I kill it myself but each to their own.

Try telling that to the yummie mummies in their 161 hyundai tuscons.

Giacomo McGubbin · 29-09-2016 09:24PM

Sam Kade wrote: »

She nods and talks sh1te.

and collects enormous sums of money for it.

I'm not getting it.

littelady · 29-09-2016 09:26PM

What about the Americans driving 6lts engines!!! Maybe start there

Right2Write · 29-09-2016 09:31PM

"Try telling that to the yummie mummies in their 161 hyundai tuscons."

That's the point - she is lecturing the yummy mummys.

Whether she's in a position to do so is another matter but she's right to argue the point.

Bit like Sutherland lecturing us on how many refugees/ migrants we should be taking.

freedominacup · 29-09-2016 09:37PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Irish farming is fairly intensive, too. Especially the affordable stuff. So the fact that it's not travelling from another part of Europe is of dubious environmental value.

In general Irish farming is very extensive and has a lower CO2 output of any farming within the EU outside of goat farming in mountainous areas in Greece. This report was heavily quashed as it didn't suit the agenda. Our density of dairy cows would be around one eighth of Dutch levels.

Skylinehead · 29-09-2016 10:04PM

Alf Stewart. wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEr4od4jQk0

Idi Amin described as "black guy laughing on boat"

Smokers and Jokers? · 29-09-2016 10:07PM

I'm glad she has clarified that she is still a geebag.

Del.Monte · 29-09-2016 10:09PM

Rockefellers wrote: »

"I know the world population is increasing, and Mary Robinson is saying we should go vegan, when humans for millennia have eaten meat and dairy."

Who gives a crap what people did for millennia. We have evolved and now know the damage livestock does to the environment and the damage eating meat does to our health. Time to bring in a tax on meat to compensate society for the damage it does to the environment and the massive health costs for treating people with heart disease/diabetes/cancers caused by eating meat.

Yeah, and if we all stop eating meat we'll get outta here alive. Mary Robinson is a hypocrite like that other waster Peter Sutherland. Anyway when Ireland opens its borders to everybody there won't be room for the livestock - job done. :rolleyes:

SEPT 23 1989 · 29-09-2016 10:14PM

A waster is generally harmless

He is a psychopath

darkpagandeath · 29-09-2016 10:19PM

This kind of talk reminds me of that fella and his look at all them people buying creates of beer. They seem to be fine to do what they like. I wonder was all the food served when the Queen was over vegan ?

Depp · 29-09-2016 10:40PM

Peregrine wrote: »

Animal agriculture is responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions than all of the transport industry combined.

Do you know anything about the topic? You're coming across as just a very angry and ill-informed man.

a white cis man at that!

Mary Robinson wants you to go vegan

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