Mary Robinson wants you to go vegan

RobertKK

Former Irish president and the current jet setting climate justice warrior Mary Robinson want people to eat little to no meat and instead to go vegan.
http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/climate-change-and-you/eat-less-meat-or-no-meat-at-all-mary-robinson-suggests-going-vegan-to-reduce-carbon-footprint-35088537.html

She has a great time with her climate justice flying around the world telling people how they are destroying the planet and their carbon footprint.

Nothing about her huge carbon footprint, but you should be cutting meat out and go vegan.

Here in Ireland this year there has been major issues with the grain crops gone unharvested due to weather conditions, but the cattle and sheep can live and give food when other food is rotting in the fields.

As I said, nothing about her high air miles totals per year, but she did complain that her grandchildren have too many toys and there is over consumption in the developed world.
Fair point but it would be nice if she looked at herself before she preaches to the rest of us about what we eat.
I want my milk and I want my meat, she wants her air miles.
Maybe if Mary didn't have a huge carbon footprint, probably much bigger than the average person who eats dairy and meat, she would have some credibility.
She is out of touch with ordinary people.

Ted111

It's funny they used to call her Big Bird and she has a big carbon footprint.

kfallon

She can go and ask me flute.....

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

I used to see her a lot and a vegan lifestyle isn't doing much for her, she's aging like a dead fish.

Alf Stewart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvMFm5nKeUc

Old Bill

Noddy is always talking about "inequality" yet she her self is a multi millionaire and has 5 pensions.

deco nate

She wants me to eat my foods food..
She can feck right off!

Special Circumstances

What's her stance on the oul ghee?

RobertKK

RobertKK wrote: »

Nothing about her huge carbon footprint, but you should be cutting meat out and go vegan.

Domestic livestock farmed for human consumption are responsible for about 15% of greenhouse gases, which is not only more than Mary Robinson's airline contributions, but it's about 7 times more than is emitted by the entire aviation industry worldwide.

http://www.fao.org/ag/againfo/resources/en/publications/tackling_climate_change/index.htm (that's a .pdf)

I'm not a vegetarian, let alone a vegan; but data like this probably does encourage me to cut down on meat and animal products (and I'm saying this as someone from a farming background). We could all behave more responsibly with very little effort.

Kintarō Hattori

I cooked a broccoli and mushroom quiche last night.... I'm doing my bit!

Peregrine

RobertKK wrote: »

She has a great time with her climate justice flying around the world telling people how they are destroying the planet and their carbon footprint.

Nothing about her huge carbon footprint, but you should be cutting meat out and go vegan.
...
As I said, nothing about her high air miles totals per year

Animal agriculture is responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions than all of the transport industry combined.

Do you know anything about the topic? You're coming across as just a very angry and ill-informed man.

Grayson

She's right though, food insecurity is a huge deal. Veganism is the way forward. It doesn't mean that we have to completely cut out meat just yet but we do need to scale back. If everyone started by eating vegan just one day a week it would make a difference.
Don't get me wrong, I love meat and I hate vegetables but thankfully there are alternatives now. There's been a lot of process in developing vegan/vegetarian meat substitutes. I haven't made a lasagna or bologense with meat in years because stuff like quorn tastes just as good.

Harvey Normal

Old Bill wrote: »

Noddy is always talking about "inequality" yet she her self is a multi millionaire and has 5 pensions.

She left the foremost office in Ireland for career and status reasons too. Unheard of. She remained uncriticisable.

Alf Stewart.

Grayson wrote: »

She's right though, food insecurity is a huge deal. Veganism is the way forward. It doesn't mean that we have to completely cut out meat just yet but we do need to scale back. If everyone started by eating vegan just one day a week it would make a difference.
Don't get me wrong, I love meat and I hate vegetables but thankfully there are alternatives now. There's been a lot of process in developing vegan/vegetarian meat substitutes. I haven't made a lasagna or bologense with meat in years because stuff like quorn tastes just as good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEr4od4jQk0

Fr_Dougal

Grayson wrote: »

She's right though, food insecurity is a huge deal. Veganism is the way forward. It doesn't mean that we have to completely cut out meat just yet but we do need to scale back. If everyone started by eating vegan just one day a week it would make a difference.
Don't get me wrong, I love meat and I hate vegetables but thankfully there are alternatives now. There's been a lot of process in developing vegan/vegetarian meat substitutes. I haven't made a lasagna or bologense with meat in years because stuff like quorn tastes just as good.

Quorn, with extra (unlabelled)eggs.

http://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/2016-09-28/quorn-recall-soups-wrongly-labelled-as-vegan/

stimpson

Harvey Normal wrote: »

She left the foremost office in Ireland for career and status reasons too. Unheard of. She remained uncriticisable.

UN Commissioner for Human Rights is all handjobs and cocaine parties alright.

Harvey Normal

stimpson wrote: »

UN Commissioner for Human Rights is all handjobs and cocaine parties alright.

It's still jumping ship. Resigning irelands highest office because "so long fcukers I've got a better job".

KungPao

Grayson wrote: »

She's right though, food insecurity is a huge deal. Veganism is the way forward. It doesn't mean that we have to completely cut out meat just yet but we do need to scale back. If everyone started by eating vegan just one day a week it would make a difference.
Don't get me wrong, I love meat and I hate vegetables but thankfully there are alternatives now. There's been a lot of process in developing vegan/vegetarian meat substitutes. I haven't made a lasagna or bologense with meat in years because stuff like quorn tastes just as good.

Quorn chicken nuggets are great, nicer than most real ones. The chicken bits taste like nothing, but are okay in a curry, but come on now...quorn mince is not a patch on real beef mince...not even close.

I went pescatarian for a while, but I felt like **** so went back to beef.

RobertKK

Peregrine wrote: »

Animal agriculture is responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions than all of the transport industry combined.

Do you know anything about the topic? You're coming across as just a very angry and ill-informed man.

I am not angry, just pointing she is a hypocrite.

I know the world population is increasing, and Mary Robinson is saying we should go vegan, when humans for millennia have eaten meat and dairy.

She is also advocating the decimation of the Irish agricultural sector, what good are the grain crops in parts of this country where the weather has not been as good as we had it in the east and south east?
How will rotten food feed people?

Large parts of Ireland is not suitable for food crops, but is for animal rearing, and we can do is more cost effective both economically and environmentally friendly than in most parts of the planet.

It would be better if she was advocating the re-afforestation of the tropical rainforests, more forestry instead of agriculture on poor land, instead of her pushing her own cash cow and large emissions of greenhouse gases with her jet setting preaching.

When she cuts back on her own lifestyle, then she can preach. No one wants to be told what to eat by someone who has a privileged lifestyle.

freshpopcorn

#EATYOURMEAT!

Rockefellers

"I know the world population is increasing, and Mary Robinson is saying we should go vegan, when humans for millennia have eaten meat and dairy."

Who gives a crap what people did for millennia. We have evolved and now know the damage livestock does to the environment and the damage eating meat does to our health. Time to bring in a tax on meat to compensate society for the damage it does to the environment and the massive health costs for treating people with heart disease/diabetes/cancers caused by eating meat.

Alf Veedersane

Cattle and their meaty friends are polluting fu*ckers so I'm doing my bit and eating them closer to extinction, day by day.

Making a contribution.

Vegans are useless fu*cks.

Stigura

F**k this sh1t! I'm off to put my steak on

Alf Veedersane

Rockefellers wrote: »

Time to bring in a tax on meat to compensate society for the damage it does to the environment and the massive health costs for treating people with heart disease/diabetes/cancers caused by eating meat.

Yeah, because it's the presence of meat in someone's diet that causes such diseases and not the dozens of other dietary amd environmental factors.

RobertKK

Rockefellers wrote: »

"I know the world population is increasing, and Mary Robinson is saying we should go vegan, when humans for millennia have eaten meat and dairy."

Who gives a crap what people did for millennia. We have evolved and now know the damage livestock does to the environment and the damage eating meat does to our health. Time to bring in a tax on meat to compensate society for the damage it does to the environment and the massive health costs for treating people with heart disease/diabetes/cancers caused by eating meat.

So the poachers are helping the planet by removing animals imagine all the methane an elephant or rhinoceros
released everyday...

People should eat a varied diet, and everything in moderation.

Humans, not livestock are the biggest polluters.

Mongfinder General

**** off you bobble headed twat

freedominacup

Rockefellers wrote: »

Who gives a crap what people did for millennia. We have evolved and now know the damage livestock does to the environment and the damage eating meat does to our health. Time to bring in a tax on meat to compensate society for the damage it does to the environment and the massive health costs for treating people with heart disease/diabetes/cancers caused by eating meat.

Food miles, food miles, food miles. I'll stand your typical extensively produced Irish beef steak against any number of non native fruits and vegetables grown in areas where farmers are subsidised to buy water by the acre foot. And then these products are put on a plane to ensure they arrive fresh.Point of information an acre foot of water is around 1,200,000 litres per acre. Look around your typical Irish housing estate. Every 8 houses occupy around one acre. Imagine 1.2 million litres of water in that area. Then treble or quadruple it.

Somehow this form of agriculture is much more virtuous than the few suckler cows you see dotted around huge tracts of this country where carbon has been sequestered for centuries because the land has never been tilled and where little or no artificial fertiliser is used and definitely no herbicides or pesticides. But that doesn't fit with the narrative does it or provide an opportunity for the self proclaimed prophets of virtuous consumption to preach to the masses.

The_Valeyard

A nice steak is one of my new pleasures in life.

She can f*ck right off.

Rockefellers

Nearly half of all the water used in the U.S. goes to raising animals for food.

It takes more than 2,400 gallons of water to produce just 1 pound of meat, but it takes just 25 gallons to grow 1 pound of wheat.

You save more water by not eating a pound of meat than you do by not showering for six months!

It requires more than 4,000 gallons of water per day to produce food for a typical meat-eater but only 300 gallons of water to produce food for a typical vegan.

darkpagandeath

I'm guessing all them state banquets had no carbon footprint.

Harvey Normal

Rockefellers wrote: »

Nearly half of all the water used in the U.S. goes to raising animals for food.

It takes more than 2,400 gallons of water to produce just 1 pound of meat, but it takes just 25 gallons to grow 1 pound of wheat.

You save more water by not eating a pound of meat than you do by not showering for six months!

It requires more than 4,000 gallons of water per day to produce food for a typical meat-eater but only 300 gallons of water to produce food for a typical vegan.

If I was eating American beef that might be a concern.

bleg

I've cut out meat for 5/7 days of the week and I don't miss it.

I feel better, I'm in better shape and it's better for the environment. Everybody wins.

freshpopcorn

bleg wrote: »

I've cut out meat for 5/7 days of the week and I don't miss it.

I feel better, I'm in better shape and it's better for the environment. Everybody wins.

Apart from the farmer/butcher/factory workers/etc!

darkpagandeath

Harvey Normal wrote: »

If I was eating American beef that might be a concern.

And I want to know what they mean by save ? They do realise water on planet earth is never destroyed unless you break it down in to oxygen and hydrogen.

Mena

http://www.futurefood.org/in-vitro-meat/index_en.php

Problem solved and I still get my steak.

SEPT 23 1989

I will give you my steak Robinson when you pry it from my cold dead mouth

Stigura

bleg wrote: »

I've cut out meat for 5/7 days of the week .....

My mate, Hugh, cuts out meat Six days a week! Towns slaughter man / butcher / hero

freedominacup

Rockefellers wrote: »

Nearly half of all the water used in the U.S. goes to raising animals for food.

It takes more than 2,400 gallons of water to produce just 1 pound of meat, but it takes just 25 gallons to grow 1 pound of wheat.

You save more water by not eating a pound of meat than you do by not showering for six months!

It requires more than 4,000 gallons of water per day to produce food for a typical meat-eater but only 300 gallons of water to produce food for a typical vegan.

On a heavy consumption day here we might use 6000 gals, give or take a few hundred. This is to produce 3000litres of milk. So around 1 litre per pound of milk. Makes the water requirement for your pound of wheat look positively excessive.

Dr Jakub

No Mary I won't be living on gruel and mush while you enjoy the good life.

Atoms for Peace

Yeast is the future source of protein.

freedominacup

If we were stocked to the same level with finishing cattle we'd probably drop water consumption by 50% and be using water at the rate of around six gallons per pound of beef. Not a bad comparison with wheat either. Only thirty percent of this land could be regarded as arable land and then only on the basis that all the good arable land was occupied. In fact I'd love to see some vegan group come in and farm it for veg production. The only stipulation I'd have is that no mechanical destoning was allowed. I don't want my lands natural drainage destroyed so someone can fail to prove a point.

Sam Kade

Peregrine wrote: »

Animal agriculture is responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions than all of the transport industry combined.

Do you know anything about the topic? You're coming across as just a very angry and ill-informed man.

I suppose you're living like a peasant to cut your emissions.

Sam Kade

Rockefellers wrote: »

"I know the world population is increasing, and Mary Robinson is saying we should go vegan, when humans for millennia have eaten meat and dairy."

Who gives a crap what people did for millennia. We have evolved and now know the damage livestock does to the environment and the damage eating meat does to our health. Time to bring in a tax on meat to compensate society for the damage it does to the environment and the massive health costs for treating people with heart disease/diabetes/cancers caused by eating meat.

Yeah we see people dying all around because of eating meat :rolleyes:

Oops69

Dr Jakub wrote: »

No Mary I won't be living on gruel and mush while you enjoy the good life.

'all pigs are equal but some pigs are more equal than others' , sanctimonious snob that one .

Sam Kade

bleg wrote: »

I've cut out meat for 5/7 days of the week and I don't miss it.

I feel better, I'm in better shape and it's better for the environment. Everybody wins.

Do you honestly think that the little amount of meat you used to eat isn't being produced anymore because you cut down?

Harvey Normal

Harvey Normal wrote: »

It's still jumping ship. Resigning irelands highest office because "so long fcukers I've got a better job".

That's a ridiculous thing to say. She could have hung around for a few months and then fcuked off to champagne breakfasts for the rest of her life in her Mayo Duchy, but she decided she could contribute better to human rights by taking the UN position.

She said resigning the presidency is her biggest career regret, but I don't see why. It was a technicality, she's one of Ireland's greatest contributions to human rights in our history, and without a doubt one of the world's most influential advocates of women's freedoms and climate justice.

I cannot understand how anyone can be so parochial, as if some great slight was done to you personally. Can you not see the bigger picture?

To the person who mentioned food-air-miles, yes that's correct; we ought to discourage importing so much in volume terms via air and sea. But the harm created by all agriculture is enormous compared to transport. If we must eat meat (and I eat meat several times a week), it's better to eat Irish meat; but we really should be cutting down on it altogether.

Irish farming is fairly intensive, too. Especially the affordable stuff. So the fact that it's not travelling from another part of Europe is of dubious environmental value.

exaisle

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

Yeast is the future source of protein.

Yeast is the future (and current) source of alcohol!

Giacomo McGubbin

Apart from pontificating to everyone else what does noddy actually do ?

Right2Write

I think you're missing the point - she seems to be arguing that people should consume less generally. That includes all goods not just food. Reuse, recycle, reduce etc. Since the manufacture of goods and food have an environmental cost. It's not a bad philosophy though it might well have an impact on the conventional market economy if we all buy less goods.

Personally, I'm happy not to eat fish, flesh or fowl unless I kill it myself but each to their own.

Sam Kade

Giacomo McGubbin wrote: »

Apart from pontificating to everyone else what does noddy actually do ?

She nods and talks sh1te.

Sam Kade

Right2Write wrote: »

I think you're missing the point - she seems to be arguing that people should consume less generally. That includes all goods not just food. Reuse, recycle, reduce etc. Since the manufacture of goods and food have an environmental cost. It's not a bad philosophy though it might well have an impact on the conventional market economy if we all buy less goods.

Personally, I'm happy not to eat fish, flesh or fowl unless I kill it myself but each to their own.

Try telling that to the yummie mummies in their 161 hyundai tuscons.