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Mary Robinson wants you to go vegan

  • 29-09-2016 07:07PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,782 ✭✭✭✭


    Former Irish president and the current jet setting climate justice warrior Mary Robinson want people to eat little to no meat and instead to go vegan.
    http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/climate-change-and-you/eat-less-meat-or-no-meat-at-all-mary-robinson-suggests-going-vegan-to-reduce-carbon-footprint-35088537.html

    She has a great time with her climate justice flying around the world telling people how they are destroying the planet and their carbon footprint.

    Nothing about her huge carbon footprint, but you should be cutting meat out and go vegan.

    Here in Ireland this year there has been major issues with the grain crops gone unharvested due to weather conditions, but the cattle and sheep can live and give food when other food is rotting in the fields.

    As I said, nothing about her high air miles totals per year, but she did complain that her grandchildren have too many toys and there is over consumption in the developed world.
    Fair point but it would be nice if she looked at herself before she preaches to the rest of us about what we eat.
    I want my milk and I want my meat, she wants her air miles.
    Maybe if Mary didn't have a huge carbon footprint, probably much bigger than the average person who eats dairy and meat, she would have some credibility.
    She is out of touch with ordinary people.


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 990 ✭✭✭Ted111


    It's funny they used to call her Big Bird and she has a big carbon footprint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    She can go and ask me flute.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    I used to see her a lot and a vegan lifestyle isn't doing much for her, she's aging like a dead fish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,789 ✭✭✭Alf Stewart.




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 299 ✭✭Old Bill


    Noddy is always talking about "inequality" yet she her self is a multi millionaire and has 5 pensions.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,340 ✭✭✭deco nate


    She wants me to eat my foods food..
    She can feck right off!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,540 ✭✭✭Special Circumstances


    What's her stance on the oul ghee?


  • Posts: 14,242 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Nothing about her huge carbon footprint, but you should be cutting meat out and go vegan.
    Domestic livestock farmed for human consumption are responsible for about 15% of greenhouse gases, which is not only more than Mary Robinson's airline contributions, but it's about 7 times more than is emitted by the entire aviation industry worldwide.

    http://www.fao.org/ag/againfo/resources/en/publications/tackling_climate_change/index.htm (that's a .pdf)

    I'm not a vegetarian, let alone a vegan; but data like this probably does encourage me to cut down on meat and animal products (and I'm saying this as someone from a farming background). We could all behave more responsibly with very little effort.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,102 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    I cooked a broccoli and mushroom quiche last night.... I'm doing my bit!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,424 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    RobertKK wrote: »
    She has a great time with her climate justice flying around the world telling people how they are destroying the planet and their carbon footprint.

    Nothing about her huge carbon footprint, but you should be cutting meat out and go vegan.
    ...
    As I said, nothing about her high air miles totals per year

    Animal agriculture is responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions than all of the transport industry combined.

    Do you know anything about the topic? You're coming across as just a very angry and ill-informed man.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    She's right though, food insecurity is a huge deal. Veganism is the way forward. It doesn't mean that we have to completely cut out meat just yet but we do need to scale back. If everyone started by eating vegan just one day a week it would make a difference.
    Don't get me wrong, I love meat and I hate vegetables but thankfully there are alternatives now. There's been a lot of process in developing vegan/vegetarian meat substitutes. I haven't made a lasagna or bologense with meat in years because stuff like quorn tastes just as good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Harvey Normal


    Old Bill wrote: »
    Noddy is always talking about "inequality" yet she her self is a multi millionaire and has 5 pensions.

    She left the foremost office in Ireland for career and status reasons too. Unheard of. She remained uncriticisable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,789 ✭✭✭Alf Stewart.


    Grayson wrote: »
    She's right though, food insecurity is a huge deal. Veganism is the way forward. It doesn't mean that we have to completely cut out meat just yet but we do need to scale back. If everyone started by eating vegan just one day a week it would make a difference.
    Don't get me wrong, I love meat and I hate vegetables but thankfully there are alternatives now. There's been a lot of process in developing vegan/vegetarian meat substitutes. I haven't made a lasagna or bologense with meat in years because stuff like quorn tastes just as good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Grayson wrote: »
    She's right though, food insecurity is a huge deal. Veganism is the way forward. It doesn't mean that we have to completely cut out meat just yet but we do need to scale back. If everyone started by eating vegan just one day a week it would make a difference.
    Don't get me wrong, I love meat and I hate vegetables but thankfully there are alternatives now. There's been a lot of process in developing vegan/vegetarian meat substitutes. I haven't made a lasagna or bologense with meat in years because stuff like quorn tastes just as good.

    Quorn, with extra (unlabelled)eggs.

    http://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/2016-09-28/quorn-recall-soups-wrongly-labelled-as-vegan/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭stimpson


    She left the foremost office in Ireland for career and status reasons too. Unheard of. She remained uncriticisable.

    UN Commissioner for Human Rights is all handjobs and cocaine parties alright.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Harvey Normal


    stimpson wrote: »
    UN Commissioner for Human Rights is all handjobs and cocaine parties alright.

    It's still jumping ship. Resigning irelands highest office because "so long fcukers I've got a better job".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,796 ✭✭✭KungPao


    Grayson wrote: »
    She's right though, food insecurity is a huge deal. Veganism is the way forward. It doesn't mean that we have to completely cut out meat just yet but we do need to scale back. If everyone started by eating vegan just one day a week it would make a difference.
    Don't get me wrong, I love meat and I hate vegetables but thankfully there are alternatives now. There's been a lot of process in developing vegan/vegetarian meat substitutes. I haven't made a lasagna or bologense with meat in years because stuff like quorn tastes just as good.
    Quorn chicken nuggets are great, nicer than most real ones. The chicken bits taste like nothing, but are okay in a curry, but come on now...quorn mince is not a patch on real beef mince...not even close.

    I went pescatarian for a while, but I felt like **** so went back to beef.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,782 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Peregrine wrote: »
    Animal agriculture is responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions than all of the transport industry combined.

    Do you know anything about the topic? You're coming across as just a very angry and ill-informed man.

    I am not angry, just pointing she is a hypocrite.

    I know the world population is increasing, and Mary Robinson is saying we should go vegan, when humans for millennia have eaten meat and dairy.

    She is also advocating the decimation of the Irish agricultural sector, what good are the grain crops in parts of this country where the weather has not been as good as we had it in the east and south east?
    How will rotten food feed people?

    Large parts of Ireland is not suitable for food crops, but is for animal rearing, and we can do is more cost effective both economically and environmentally friendly than in most parts of the planet.

    It would be better if she was advocating the re-afforestation of the tropical rainforests, more forestry instead of agriculture on poor land, instead of her pushing her own cash cow and large emissions of greenhouse gases with her jet setting preaching.

    When she cuts back on her own lifestyle, then she can preach. No one wants to be told what to eat by someone who has a privileged lifestyle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,284 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    #EATYOURMEAT!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Rockefellers


    "I know the world population is increasing, and Mary Robinson is saying we should go vegan, when humans for millennia have eaten meat and dairy."

    Who gives a crap what people did for millennia. We have evolved and now know the damage livestock does to the environment and the damage eating meat does to our health. Time to bring in a tax on meat to compensate society for the damage it does to the environment and the massive health costs for treating people with heart disease/diabetes/cancers caused by eating meat.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,946 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Cattle and their meaty friends are polluting fu*ckers so I'm doing my bit and eating them closer to extinction, day by day.

    Making a contribution.

    Vegans are useless fu*cks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,692 ✭✭✭Stigura


    F**k this sh1t! I'm off to put my steak on :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,946 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Time to bring in a tax on meat to compensate society for the damage it does to the environment and the massive health costs for treating people with heart disease/diabetes/cancers caused by eating meat.

    Yeah, because it's the presence of meat in someone's diet that causes such diseases and not the dozens of other dietary amd environmental factors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,782 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    "I know the world population is increasing, and Mary Robinson is saying we should go vegan, when humans for millennia have eaten meat and dairy."

    Who gives a crap what people did for millennia. We have evolved and now know the damage livestock does to the environment and the damage eating meat does to our health. Time to bring in a tax on meat to compensate society for the damage it does to the environment and the massive health costs for treating people with heart disease/diabetes/cancers caused by eating meat.


    So the poachers are helping the planet by removing animals imagine all the methane an elephant or rhinoceros
    released everyday...

    People should eat a varied diet, and everything in moderation.

    Humans, not livestock are the biggest polluters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Mongfinder General


    **** off you bobble headed twat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup



    Who gives a crap what people did for millennia. We have evolved and now know the damage livestock does to the environment and the damage eating meat does to our health. Time to bring in a tax on meat to compensate society for the damage it does to the environment and the massive health costs for treating people with heart disease/diabetes/cancers caused by eating meat.

    Food miles, food miles, food miles. I'll stand your typical extensively produced Irish beef steak against any number of non native fruits and vegetables grown in areas where farmers are subsidised to buy water by the acre foot. And then these products are put on a plane to ensure they arrive fresh.Point of information an acre foot of water is around 1,200,000 litres per acre. Look around your typical Irish housing estate. Every 8 houses occupy around one acre. Imagine 1.2 million litres of water in that area. Then treble or quadruple it.

    Somehow this form of agriculture is much more virtuous than the few suckler cows you see dotted around huge tracts of this country where carbon has been sequestered for centuries because the land has never been tilled and where little or no artificial fertiliser is used and definitely no herbicides or pesticides. But that doesn't fit with the narrative does it or provide an opportunity for the self proclaimed prophets of virtuous consumption to preach to the masses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    A nice steak is one of my new pleasures in life.

    She can f*ck right off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Rockefellers


    Nearly half of all the water used in the U.S. goes to raising animals for food.

    It takes more than 2,400 gallons of water to produce just 1 pound of meat, but it takes just 25 gallons to grow 1 pound of wheat.

    You save more water by not eating a pound of meat than you do by not showering for six months!

    It requires more than 4,000 gallons of water per day to produce food for a typical meat-eater but only 300 gallons of water to produce food for a typical vegan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    I'm guessing all them state banquets had no carbon footprint.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Harvey Normal


    Nearly half of all the water used in the U.S. goes to raising animals for food.

    It takes more than 2,400 gallons of water to produce just 1 pound of meat, but it takes just 25 gallons to grow 1 pound of wheat.

    You save more water by not eating a pound of meat than you do by not showering for six months!

    It requires more than 4,000 gallons of water per day to produce food for a typical meat-eater but only 300 gallons of water to produce food for a typical vegan.

    If I was eating American beef that might be a concern.


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