Why did Gardai destroy possible burial site of Irelands longest missing child?

I cant believe Margo has turned

I have had margo on the phone to me 3-4 times daily asking me what "that nutter" is posting now on twitter etc as margo cant do online

Then on sunday puts her name to a statement like that

On Sunday morning Gemma Rang my cousin Ann and was saying to her " you dont care about your twin mary being found "
Ann rightly told her to fcuk off

But Margo somehow she twisted

I asked margo why she said "I had to show to the gards that there was no splits"

I said Margo hardly anbody could see there was splits . now they can all see it !

That statement tonight said I have never been involved in the campaign , no apart from meeting the suspect and asking him was he guilty , apart from posting hundreds of ribbons around Ireland and the UK, apart from running that facebook page, apart from going on the march , apart from sitting with the top gard on the case last week under Margos arrangement to try negotiate the way we want the dig to be carried out.

My cousin is totally split on what to do , I had told her on Monday after that second statement that I was gonna stop actively campaigning and instead uses the JFMB facebook page as a way to show people's support from around the world and discuss the case i wouldn't post any of Gemma's tweet etc and we had been doing that , showing photos of people showing support from Argentina & France etc .

Then I come in from 5-a-sides tonight and see all this & my phone hasn't stopped bleeping or ringing since

My cousin doesn't know what to do , I think she is scared is she loses Gemma she loses the lawyer, he was supposed to phone me last night or tonight looking for a "united front" I told my cousin I'm sorry but once Gemma spread the lie that I was doing this for the money then I was never having anything to do with the woman again , he never rang anyway .


been dealing with utter idiots all night giving all sorts of abuse cos we dared post an answer back

Just am really at a crossroads now

anyway here's our page , could do with some intelligent people commenting that can see the wood for the trees and aren't afraid to come out with it


https://www.facebook.com/JusticeForMaryBoyle/?fref=ts

oranbhoy, I think your cousin needs good legal advice to get these people away from her and the campaign as a priority. There are decent human rights firms who will act for her.

twill wrote: »

oranbhoy, I think your cousin needs good legal advice to get these shysters away from her and the campaign as a priority. If her legal team is answering to someone else - hopefully this is not the case but I've seen it happen - there are decent human rights firms who will act for her.

Ive already told her just to go back with them, the lawyer they have is supposedly the best human right lawyer in the country.

As I said to Ann on Sunday I feel the journalists ego is making us working with Ann impossible for her, so Gemma has finally got her wish & got us off the case, cos we have took that choice out of her hands, we will always be there for her we are the only extended family that she has..and we will keep our facebook page up and running and we won't respond to any more "statements" as it is bringing the whole case down, she can say whatever the fcuk she wants about us now we won't rise to it.

tired and emotional now ( not drunk) just haven't slept so away to bed guys thanks for advice

Going Forward wrote: »

Don't rise to people annoying you.
Keep dignified and don't comment.

I've know I've just said that but, where have you been accused by G of being in it for the money?

Can you show it? A link, a screenshot?

That's a serious thing for anyone to say.


And you can't be saying it if you can't show she said it!

i can prove that she gets people to say things for her on twitter, and I can prove that a woman she introduced to twitter said it on there

I can show the second screenshot but the first would be showing private PMs which I am not comfortable with

Oranboy you are totally right to not rise to this - I can't believe a professional journalist would actually try to claim ownership of a case just because they put together their findings in a documentary.

For G'oD that should end there. She has done her work, it's up to the authorities and Mary's family to keep the campaign going (if you and others feel you can) and to liaise when needed with the investigation.

One thing I think it completely unprofessional in the documentary makers approach is to berate members of a family who will be emotionally charged already (given the awful circumstances of a child's disappearance)

Going Forward wrote: »

She hasn't berated family members.

She didn't mention family members.

She claims unconnected individuals set up a facebook page and she requested of them that the page be run by the people involved in the campaign and a legal action against the state.

But unusual, but no harm in asking I suppose.
In case things were to get messy I suppose or maybe the originators could lose interest in it or move on to another cause or screw up the legal case.

The originators of the page are not identified in her post, and from reading it, seem to have rejected her request. Fair enough, they don't have to grant it if they don't want to.

She says she's never met who's behind the page it but "One individual who has access to the page has caused damage to our campaign through his personal abuse of some who have fought for justice for Mary Boyle."

Read what she said.

Where did she berate family members?

Are you looking at a different page than I am??

https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=296887610690245&id=100011070254271

I cant read that page as I am blocked so I have saw it before

I was the sole admin of that Fbook page when she wrote that

Starting to understand how she works a little now ?

Going Forward wrote: »

She didn't say that you were though OB.

She's not identifying anyone, you are.

She didn't berate family members.
She berated an unnamed individual who YOU have said is you.

Don't rise to anyone using vague terms.
Let them keep it vague.

They do it that way for a reason.

Any luck showing where you said she said you were in it for the money?

thats not how she operates , she gets people to join twitter and she then feeds them insults to throw at people , which is what she did by introducing Patricia McCafferty to twitter.. who then made a tweet to me suggesting the above , I can't be bothered answering all your questions you can take me for my word or not it doesn't matter to me this stage tbh, i know her game and I'm not rising to it anymore

Oh, and look out for an interesting stunt she was planning to pull tomorrow at Ballyshannon courthouse when she goes to work on her first day as a legal advisor defending an ex-Bundoran councillors son on an assault charge.

Hopefully she might have seen some sense by now and changed her plan, if not im sure we will be reading about it all tomorrow and my cousins name will be used yet again with something that has f-all to do with her case

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

I suggest if you want to maintain credibility you should re-consider your attitude to answering questions your own posts raised.

And I suggest you dial it back.

Ill answer your questions in bold here i apologise for my reaction last night it just gets a bit tiresome being questioned all the time on your intentions ..I know who her statements are aimed at, she mentions the admins of our page which is me and my sister she very rarely names of the people she is having digs at but believe me we know who she is aiming them at have we proof no but thats my word I think ive been as open as possible on here from since I started posting

Going Forward wrote: »

I think I've only asked one or two questions OB.

I can see where you're coming from though, or why you're upset.

I had a look at twitter, and there are a few questions there, such as someone saying they'd never heard of you and your Justice for Mary Boyle campaign before the documentary, I think the inference there was that there wasn't much of a campaign before Gemma O Doherty got behind the case,
My cousin is very private and never told any of us what her feelings were on the case until I read a few things myself online and told my sister and she asked Gemma and Let Gemma know I lived here and supported Ann which was something that no one else in her family in Ireland did.. I thought this would change after the documentary came out but it hasnt , at least publicly they havent said anything , I was selling CDs around Letterkenny to Help fund a dig in 2011 that Margo O Donnell had brought out, My cousin posted about them on facebook I asked where I could get on in Letterkenny she said nowhere I said send me a few hundred up and Il put them around local shops and I did and I actually posted about it on this forum , here is the link - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=74324533, again I stress at this time I knew nothing of my cousins thoughts of what happened to her twin, I could hardly campaign if I didn't know and it wasn't something i would bother her about I grew up in Glasgow and she lives in Offaly when we do meet its usually Weddings funerals etc I'm not about to start asking , " so what happened to Mary?"

and a question about what the money from the Mary Boyle CD's being sold was for.
it was being sold to raise funds for a dig was what i was told by Margo and Ann, this was years before Gemma was near the case.. and if the dig was successful and found Mary then the money left over would go to a childrens charity.. I never asked too much I had the CDs delivered up to me & I sold more than half and sent the unsold ones back down to Margo along with the money, including the money for a shop who "lost" 5 of them . I haven't saw this question id be very interested in seeing it if you want to link me to it if it was on Gemma O dohertys facebook I cant see it as I am blocked but you can screenshot it and PM me it if you want .

Any questions like that and you either ignore them or you answer them properly, people on a platform such as facebook or twitter will ask such questions, and getting into a row with them for asking them or claiming that Gemma O Doherty has made them ask them won't look good.


It will look as if you're not able to answer them.

I answered the first question on Gemmas facebook which she then deleted and blocked me, the second one I havent seen, Gemma does get people to ask questions on her behalf , she did it with me when I first joined Twitter and if she wants to deny it I have Private Messages as proof



The gist I got from it was that they thought you'd (and Josie) sprung up out of nowhere after someone else has done the legwork, and now are having an open spat with someone who's made a documentary about the case and got national interest in the case revived and has been on virtually every local radio station in the country talking about the case.

The gist of it is that Gemma is so ego-driven that the only 2 famly members that is helping ann out she feels so threatend by she has to make statements about , and not only us but the lady who ran the march in ballyshannon and the guy who was the first admin on the facebook page


I had another look at your campaign page on facebook.

It still has just two lines of information about Mary Boyle, along with some photos, videos and about 20 photos of tweets by Gemma O Doherty, before things went sour.

There's not much to it to be honest.

If I'm really honest, there's more about the bickering than what the "campaign" is about.

I think you should clean out ALL disparaging references to Gemma O Doherty, "the split", and take a different approach. Focus on Mary.

I don't think you look at our facebook properly or if you do you are missing things out somehow , we made statements in reply to Gemma O Dohertys slanderous statments on Sunday and Tuesday evening .. dont we have a right to reply when she says that the people operating it have nothing to do with the case ?

She made another Statement on Wednesday which we have chosen to ignore

as we will all future noise coming from her

We post photographs and videos etc every night on the page, what else do you want us to do? put in more than was in the documentary? it revealed a little bit too much as it was imo .. that's about the 3rd or 4th time now you have gave me advice on running the page I appreciate your advice but we have 12k likes and growing and you don't need to tell me again thanks .. the tweets we USED to post by Gemma O Doherty, went against our personal distaste for her actions and let people on facebook who have no access or interest in twitter know what is going on according to her. we haven't posted any of her tweets since i think last Saturday and we won't post any more neither , we doubt anyone looking for justice are interested in Hilary clinton conspiracy videos or where cars are parked illegally in bundoran anyways

so thats why we will not repost, not for fear of continual legal threats for her to hand over the page to her but because we won't give her anymore of the publicity she craves and tbh her tweets are getting more bizarre by the day anyway


If she does tweet something that we think is worthwhile in relation to the case then we will post it , Mary is our cousin and although Gemma has somehow managed to alienate Margo O donnell from us if someone is posting about our cousin I think we have a right to repost it

Here is our page people can judge for themselves whether they think the above is true or not https://www.facebook.com/JusticeForMaryBoyle/

oranbhoy67 wrote: »

ok i was tired and stressed out when I posted this, its more that the only way I can prove it is by disclosing private messages to me which I am not willing to do on here or anywhere else, I should have just said that but again stress and lack of sleep , and also people were asking me questions on sical media that only me & the person involved would know about & needless to say twisting them to suit their own agenda
Im told she has the best defamation lawyer in the country, if Im lying about any of this she can take me to court. And there I will produce proof !

Thanks, it was not my intention to add to the stress, only to point up how that read.